What was said

Board of Assessors, November 6, 2023

the recording · 2:27 long, about 17,841 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:58:50The Board of Assessors voted to create a seasonal cottage classification, coded as camp, at a per-square-foot rate set below the current bungalow rate.
  2. ▶ 2:10:22The board voted to support a raised new growth estimate for town meeting.
  3. ▶ 38:38Vision Government Solutions briefed the board on the FY24 revaluation and asked it to pick a target ratio between 90 and 100 percent of market value.
  4. ▶ 1:46:36The board voted to relieve a sewer betterment commitment after a payment and approved a run of invoices, including the principal assessor job advertisement.
  5. ▶ 2:11:03Senior exemption questions and citizen questions ended without resolution; the board then entered executive session.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The camp classification sets how seasonal cottages are assessed, so owners of those buildings (not the land) may see a different assessment than under the bungalow rate.
  • The new growth estimate that town meeting relies on feeds into how much tax levy the town can raise, which touches the tax bill and the vote residents will be asked to take.

Watch next

  • The November 20th agenda, where the Q3 tax bill insert is due to return and the board plans to add the executive session minutes for approval and release.
  • Nate Kramer of MFS is due back in about two weeks for extensive questioning by the board.

budgetcontracts and unionsexecutive sessionhiringpersonnelpublic commentseniorstechnologytown departments

Present: Mr. rabbit (member); Sarah (member); Mr. chairman (chair); Reena (interim principal assessor); Heather (town manager); Mike Terell (presenter (Vision Government Solutions)); Nate Kramer (presenter (MFS)); Eric (technology support). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 19:20Approve the annual association membership payment.not audible
  2. ▶ 22:50Pay the RRC personal property invoice for fiscal 24.not audible
  3. ▶ 24:45Pay the Vision Government Solutions invoice for school year 23 (revote after a misstatement).not audible
  4. ▶ 25:29Pay the MMA invoice for advertising the principal assessor position.not audible
  5. ▶ 26:54Pay the MFS invoice.not audible
  6. ▶ 27:36Pay the WB Mason office supplies invoice.not audible
  7. ▶ 1:46:36Relieve the commitment for the sewer betterment payment.not audible
  8. ▶ 1:58:50Establish the seasonal cottage classification at the recommended per-square-foot rate for FY24.not audible
  9. ▶ 2:10:22Support the recommended new growth estimate for town meeting.not audible

And 2 procedural: accept the amended minutes of september 27th. (▶ 16:00); enter executive session under purpose 7 and then a second session on non-union negotiation strategy for principal assessor, then adjourn. (▶ 2:25:43).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 12 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsNew growth estimate for town meeting

    recording Support the recommended new growth estimate for town meeting. — not audible; figures heard: 484000, 200,000, 400,000

    town’s minutes “motion by john rabbitt to support the 400,000-dollar actual bill to get the new growth proposed by heather lemieux, seconded by sarah cammer. all in favor.”

    The official minutes give $400,000 for the motion, while ours heard 484000, 200,000 and 400,000. Check the recording at about t=7697 to see which amount was moved, noting that $484,203 is also the official minutes' tax-dollar figure.

  2. differsSewer betterment commitment relief vote

    recording Relieve the commitment for the sewer betterment payment. — not audible

    town’s minutes —

    Our minutes record a vote with a $4,800 figure and the official minutes record no such vote or amount. Check the official minutes or the recording for whether the board acted.

  3. differsNate Kramer / Cramer return and questioning

    recording Nate Kramer will return in two weeks for extensive questioning.

    town’s minutes “brian laffond plans to get a copy of questions to nate cramer prior to the next meeting on november 20th.”

    Both put MFS's Nate at the November 20 meeting, but only ours says he returns for extensive questioning. Two weeks from November 6 is November 20, so the timing is consistent. Check the recording at about t=4408.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Final new growth figure:New growth: $ 33,2 190, $4 $84,200 34→$33,190,000 and $484,203▶ 2:03:08
  • Seasonal cottage prices in other towns:Seasonal cottage rate: $65 a square foot, $106 a square foot, $68.50, $63→$95▶ 1:49:23
  • Board member and chair names:Mr. rabbit (member); Sarah (member); Mr. chairman (chair); Reena (interim principal assessor)→John Rabbitt, Sarah Cammer, Brian Laffond, Rena Swezey
  • Vision presenter name:Mike Terell (presenter (Vision Government Solutions))→Mike Tarello
In one record only: 4 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Items heard but not in the official minutes: Assessing association membership: $75; WinToPDF software reimbursement: $35; Postage: $105; MMA advertising: $75
  • Recording only — Exemption reimbursements and revaluation ratio figures: Exemption reimbursements: $177,000, $85,500; Revaluation ratio: 87%, 95; Personal property contract bids: 20,000
  • Recording only — Executive session minutes approved and released in separate votes: Executive session minutes to be approved and released in separate votes; the board will add them to the next agenda.
  • Recording only — Seasonal cottages coded as camp in Vision: Seasonal cottages will be coded as camp in the Vision system.
  • Town’s minutes only — Seniors work-off abatement increase: “this will raise the maximum senior work off for abatements from 1,500 to 2,000 starting in 2025.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Motor vehicle abatements: “motor vehicle abatements signed.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Other decisions: “the board is to review the mls and then give a list to mike tarello of any properties not showing up on mls.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public comment from Carl Luck: “carl luck- sunset lane- thanks the board and is happy that a new category regarding cottages was created.”

Compared 2026-10-09. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 17:44Assessing association membership

    Annual town membership dues, paid once a year.

    as heard:$75

  2. ▶ 20:38WinToPDF software reimbursement

    Reimbursement for software used to put Vision cards online.

    as heard:$35

  3. ▶ 21:59Postage

    Postage invoice signed.

    as heard:$105

  4. ▶ 22:39RRC personal property invoices

    A fiscal 24 invoice and an overdue fiscal 23 invoice were discussed.

    as heard:$99,000$94294202

  5. ▶ 25:29MMA advertising

    Cost of advertising the principal assessor opening.

    as heard:$75

  6. ▶ 26:33MFS invoice

    Invoice for Nate's company's work.

    as heard:$532$ 5,325

  7. ▶ 27:14WB Mason office supplies

    Office supplies invoice.

    as heard:$355$ 3559

  8. ▶ 38:38Revaluation ratio

    Vision said sales are at about a certain percent of market value and asked the board to pick a target between 90 and 100 percent.

    as heard:87%95

  9. ▶ 1:28:21Personal property contract bids

    Town must solicit bids for personal property and utility appraisal; threshold below which sealed bids are not required.

    as heard:20,000

  10. ▶ 1:44:49Sewer betterment payment

    A check paid down a sewer betterment and a commitment had to be relieved.

    as heard:$4,800

  11. ▶ 1:49:23Seasonal cottage rate

    Recommended a lower rate than the current bungalow rate, based on comparison with nearby towns.

    as heard:$65 a square foot$106 a square foot$68.50$63

  12. ▶ 2:03:08New growth

    Final new growth number reported, with the tax dollar equivalent.

    as heard:$ 33,2 190$4 $84,200 34

  13. ▶ 2:08:17New growth estimate for town meeting

    Town manager proposed raising the estimate from the prior one to a conservative figure.

    as heard:484000200,000400,000

  14. ▶ 2:04:37Exemption reimbursements

    Previously unfiled exemption reimbursements are now corrected and reimbursement is expected.

    as heard:$177,000$85,500

  15. ▶ 2:16:41Motor vehicle exemption

    A number of recipients but no state reimbursement discussed.

    as heard:$17,250

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 16:59The October 11th minutes were skipped because of a recording gap and will be reworked for next time.
  • ▶ 1:25:27Q3 tax bill insert to return on the November 20th agenda; the town manager will send a draft.
  • ▶ 1:34:45Executive session minutes to be approved and released in separate votes; the board will add them to the next agenda.
  • ▶ 1:59:52Seasonal cottages will be coded as camp in the Vision system.
  • ▶ 2:19:28Members will email questions to Reena to consolidate; citizen questions and answers to be compiled for the website later.
  • ▶ 1:13:28Nate Kramer will return in two weeks for extensive questioning.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 2:01:02Asked whether the new camp designation applies to the building only and not the land; told it is the building only.
  2. ▶ 2:23:38Thanked the board and interim assessor for the seasonal cottage work. — car luck, 50 Sunset Lane, as heard

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:07Meeting disclaimers and Zoom technical delayinformational · 10:48 long
  2. ▶ 10:55Board comment: senior abatement changes, Q3 tax bill messaginginformational · 3:06 long · seniors, tax rate
  3. ▶ 14:01Minutes of September 27th and October 11thSeptember minutes amended and motion made; October deferred · 3:12 long
  4. ▶ 17:13Invoices and expense vouchersvoted on several · 11:12 long · budget
  5. ▶ 29:07Vision Government Solutions FY24 revaluation update and contract deliverablesinformational · 44:21 long · contracts and unions, technology, town departments
  6. ▶ 1:13:28Nate Kramer MFS update: ATB cases, reimbursementsinformational · 9:27 long · contracts and unions, town departments
  7. ▶ 1:22:55Town manager: contracts, executive session minutes, organization chartsinformational · 20:29 long · contracts and unions, policy, town departments
  8. ▶ 1:43:24Signing sewer commitment relief and motor vehicle abatementsvoted · 5:17 long · water sewer
  9. ▶ 1:48:41Interim assessor report: seasonal cottage classificationvoted · 13:02 long · budget, planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 2:01:43New growth and reimbursementsvoted to support estimate · 9:20 long · budget, tax rate, warrant article
  11. ▶ 2:11:03Senior exemptions 41C, citizen questionsno resolution · 12:14 long · seniors, tax rate
  12. ▶ 2:23:17Closing comment and entry into executive sessionvoted · 3:49 long · public comment, executive session, personnel

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote outcomes and counts were generally not stated in the captions.
  • Many figures are garbled, including the new growth numbers and invoice amounts.
  • Speaker identification is unreliable throughout.
  • The Q3 bill discussion is spread over several segments with unclear speakers.

These are ours, and they are not the record

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