What was said

Board of Assessors, July 29, 2024

the recording · 1:52 long, about 13,414 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 50:43The Board of Assessors did not decide a resident's request for simulations of six property-card changes; it will wait for town counsel's opinion.
  2. ▶ 50:43If counsel allows it, staff will try to find time to run the six comparisons the resident asked for.
  3. ▶ 1:36:43The board voted to publish its website without the ISO reference, the org chart and the site map, to be added later; the outcome was not audible.
  4. ▶ 1:14:16The 61B land withdrawal and the town's right of first refusal were tabled until the open space committee gives a recommendation.
  5. ▶ 1:49:07The board tentatively set September 16 and 30 as meeting dates, returning to two meetings a month, then went into executive session.

Why it matters — our reading

  • A homeowner who has won an abatement may be able to see how individual property-card factors affected the assessed value, but only if town counsel says the assessors may produce those comparisons.
  • The 61B item bears on whether the town takes up its right of first refusal on land leaving a tax-reduced program, and it now waits on the open space committee.

Watch next

  • Town counsel's opinion on the resident's request for property-card comparisons.
  • The board's next meeting in August, and the tentative September 16 and 30 meetings.

contracts and unionsexecutive sessionhiringpersonnelplanning and zoningpolicypublic commentseniorsstaffingtechnologytown departments

Present: Brian Leon (Brian leant) (chair); John rabbit (member); Sarah Cammer (member); Linda mcade (principal assessor); Marena Sweezy (Reena) (assistant assessor). 1 of 5 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 1:36:43Publish the website as it is, pulling the ISO reference, org chart/work breakdown structure and site map, to be added later as agreed.not audible

And 3 procedural: accept the june 10 executive session minutes as amended by sarah. (▶ 1:03:57); accept the june 10, 2024 minutes with mr. rabbit's addition that a member may abstain and participate in the conversation, plus typo corrections. (▶ 1:06:04); suspend open meeting and enter executive session under purpose 7 (c.59 s.60, abatement applications). (▶ 1:51:34).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 3 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsVote to publish the website▶ 1:36:43

    recording Publish the website as it is, pulling the ISO reference, org chart/work breakdown structure and site map, to be added later as agreed. — not audible

    town’s minutes “there was a motion to publish the website as soon as possible and pull out the 3 components by sarah cammer, seconded by john rabbitt. all in favor.”

    Both records have the motion, but ours has no audible outcome and lists an extra 'ISO reference' component, while the official minutes name three components and record it as passed; check the recording around t=5803 for the outcome and the component list.

  2. differsRena Swezey's role

    recording Marena Sweezy (Reena) (assistant assessor)

    town’s minutes “assessing consultant rena swezey”

    Role differs (assistant assessor vs assessing consultant); this also bears on the 'assistant assessor stays until December' item, so check the recording.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Motor vehicle excise commitment number three, amount:Motor vehicle excise commitment number three: 626 bills, $1 13,636 42→$130,636.42▶ 11:41
  • Supplemental bills total:Supplemental bills: $ 26,5 452→$26,452▶ 12:02
  • Invoices for signature (RRC, Vision, MFS):Invoices for signature: $22,000, $1,000, $600, 1,50→$2,000, $1,000, $600, $1,500▶ 1:07:29
  • Attendee names:Brian Leon (Brian leant) (chair); John rabbit; Sarah camer; Linda mcade; Marena Sweezy (Reena)→Brian Laffond, John Rabbitt, Sarah Cammer, Lynda McQuade, Rena Swezey
In one record only: 7 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — FY2025 new growth: FY2025 new growth: 13,760 uh uh 86 so $186, 12 million ▶ 20:45
  • Recording only — Abatement totals and refunds: Abatement totals and refunds: 15,000 ▶ 1:22:17
  • Recording only — Effect of property card changes on building value: Effect of the property card changes on building value: 0.9% ▶ 32:00
  • Recording only — 41A deferral income limits and research: 41A deferral income limits: $ 1,50,000, $8,000, 8%, 4%, 16% ▶ 1:44:38
  • Recording only — Assistant assessor stays until December: The board agreed that the assistant assessor stays on until December. They said any change by the interim town manager would have to be negotiated. ▶ 19:22
  • Recording only — Agenda preparation handover and September meeting dates: The chair asked the principal assessor to take over preparing preliminary agendas and meeting logistics starting around September. ▶ 1:47:45
  • Recording only — Executive-session resident-question policy deferred: A vote on the executive-session resident-question policy was deferred to a future discussion of board policies. ▶ 1:02:07
  • Town’s minutes only — Four invoices approved and signed: “4 invoices were approved and signed”
  • Town’s minutes only — Motor vehicle excise abatements signed for commitment 3: “motor vehicle excise tax abatements were signed for commitment number 3.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Neighborhood Review Team second meeting: “so far, there has been one meeting. sarah cammer will reach out to the team to schedule the second meeting.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Carl Luck's request on 2024 tax calculation: “carl luck wants to get an explanation of how the final 2024 tax amount was determined.”

Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 11:41Motor vehicle excise commitment number three

    The assessor reported the commitment's bills and total, mailed July 22.

    as heard:626 bills$1 13,636 42

  2. ▶ 12:02Supplemental bills

    Six supplemental bills awaited board approval that night.

    as heard:$ 26,5 452

  3. ▶ 20:45FY2025 new growth

    Residential and commercial new growth was reported as assessed value, not tax. Personal property and utility growth were still pending with the consultant.

    as heard:13,760 uh uh 86 so $18612 million

  4. ▶ 1:07:29Invoices for signature

    Invoices were signed for the software annual fee, a Vision report on the LA3, and two other invoices.

    as heard:$22,000$1,000$6001,50

  5. ▶ 1:22:17Abatement totals and refunds

    A negative abatement total was questioned and explained as reversals and payments already made.

    as heard:15,000

  6. ▶ 32:00Effect of the property card changes on building value

    The resident said the changes he listed had only a small impact on the building value and wanted to understand why.

    as heard:0.9%

  7. ▶ 1:44:3841A deferral income limits

    Members discussed changes to the home value and income limits and the interest rate on deferrals.

    as heard:$ 1,50,000$8,0008%4%16%

  8. ▶ 1:18:23Real estate and personal property abatements

    Abatements processed were signed in bulk.

    as heard:42

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 19:22The board agreed that the assistant assessor stays on until December. They said any change by the interim town manager would have to be negotiated.
  • ▶ 50:43The board will wait for town counsel's opinion before deciding on the resident's request. If counsel allows it, staff will try to find time for the six comparisons.
  • ▶ 1:14:16The 61B withdrawal and right-of-first-refusal item was tabled until the open space committee gives a recommendation. The next meeting is in August.
  • ▶ 1:47:25The 41A deferral research will be written up and sent to the state contact for review.
  • ▶ 1:47:45The chair asked the principal assessor to take over preparing preliminary agendas and meeting logistics starting around September.
  • ▶ 1:49:07The board tentatively set September 16 and 30 as meeting dates, returning to two meetings a month.
  • ▶ 1:02:07A vote on the executive-session resident-question policy was deferred to a future discussion of board policies.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 8:11Thanked the board for the abatement granted in May, asked when the check would arrive, and asked for a working session to learn how property-card factors affected his abated assessment. — Carl luck, 50 Sunset Lane, as heard, resident
  2. ▶ 28:51Said he is not seeking access to the software, only printouts showing the incremental impact of six property-card changes (fireplace, kitchen, bathroom, foundation, effective year built, percent good). Argued this falls within the assessor's job description. — Carl luck, as heard, resident

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:27Pre-meeting chatter and dead airinformational · 3:28 long
  2. ▶ 3:55Call to order, open meeting law and remote participation notices, introductionsinformational · 3:55 long
  3. ▶ 7:50Public comment: resident Carl luck on his abatement and request for a working sessioninformational · 2:49 long · public comment
  4. ▶ 10:39Principal assessor status report, hiring of two staff, board role in interviews, transition plan, new growth, utility appraisalsinformational; board discussed interview policy · 15:20 long · hiring, staffing, town departments
  5. ▶ 25:59Resident's request for property card factor simulations; counsel opinion on data accessno resolution; awaiting town counsel · 29:58 long · technology, policy, town departments
  6. ▶ 55:57Approval of June 10 minutes and executive session minutes; financial policy handoutvoted, count not audible · 10:50 long · policy
  7. ▶ 1:06:47Invoices review and signingsigned without a vote · 1:45 long · contracts and unions, budget
  8. ▶ 1:09:1861B land withdrawal and town right of first refusaltabled pending the open space committee · 6:19 long · planning and zoning, housing
  9. ▶ 1:15:37Signing motor vehicle and real estate abatements and commitments; negative abatement questionsigned · 16:20 long · tax rate, town departments
  10. ▶ 1:32:17Neighborhood review team update and website rollout, vote to publish without three componentsvoted, outcome not audible · 6:34 long · technology, policy
  11. ▶ 1:38:5141A tax deferral research updateinformational · 8:34 long · seniors, legal
  12. ▶ 1:47:25Agenda responsibility, meeting logistics, September meeting schedule, closing commentsdates tentatively set · 3:48 long · personnel
  13. ▶ 1:51:13Motion to enter executive session under purpose 7proceeded into executive session · 1:23 long · executive session

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote counts and mover/seconder for all motions are not in the captions.
  • Many figures are garbled (commitment totals, new growth value, invoice amounts).
  • Several stretches of cross-talk during abatement signing are unclear.
  • Who spoke in many exchanges is not identified.
  • Whether the minutes motions and website motion passed is only implied, not stated.
  • The zoom and phone numbers and passcodes read aloud are garbled.

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