What was said
Capital Planning Committee, November 8, 2023
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The town published an agenda for this meeting. No minutes have been published; the recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.
The short version
- ▶ 4:18The DPW director presented a 10-year capital plan covering equipment replacement, stormwater and culvert work, and cemetery projects; no votes were taken.
- ▶ 9:51Members pressed on a second front-end loader, cemetery funding, bundled requests, and whether in-house plowing costs less than contracting it out.
- ▶ 1:44:40The DPW director is to return answers within a week or two and an outsourced-plowing cost analysis by mid-January.
- ▶ 47:13Members said stormwater is straining the capital plan and discussed a comprehensive plan and a possible utility or impervious-surface fee.
- ▶ 1:47:08Approval of the October 23 minutes was postponed to the next meeting, set for Monday November 20 with schools on the agenda.
Why it matters — our reading
- Capital requests like a second plow loader, drainage fixes and cemetery work compete for the same limited capital money, and what ranks high may reach a town meeting article.
- A stormwater utility or impervious-surface fee, if pursued, would be a new charge on property owners, though it was only discussed here and nothing was decided.
Watch next
- Monday November 20 at 7 o'clock: next Capital Planning meeting, with schools on the agenda.
- Mid-January: the DPW director's cost analysis of in-house versus contracted plowing, due to the committee and town manager.
budgetbudget fy27capitalcontracts and unionsfacilitiesgrantsplanning and zoningroads and dpwstaffingtown departmentstransportationwater sewer
Present: Tom (chair); Matthew brener (member (planning board rep)); Chris Menard (member); Peter beardmore (member, remote); Bill Bernard (presenter (DPW director)); Heather (town manager (as addressed)); Dave Doran (member of the cemetery commission (spoke)). 1 of 7 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
No substantive votes heard. 2 procedural.
The money
- ▶ 5:58DPW 10-year capital plan total
Director said the 10-year ask totals several million, about a million a year, with out years hard to predict.
as heard:$6.7 millionalmost a million dollars per year
- ▶ 9:51Second front-end loader with plow (FY25 top priority)
Director argued a second loader is needed for snow and backup; a member raised fleet-management concerns; existing loader near the engine-rebuild hours.
as heard:10,000 hours8,000
- ▶ 16:51Northfield culvert replacement construction
Engineer estimate compared with a similar recent project; grants or earmark possible.
as heard:200,000just over 100,000
- ▶ 20:09Cemetery expansion funding and perpetual care
Members questioned why cemetery capital isn't self-sustaining; perpetual care interest is small and plot prices were just raised.
as heard:$800,000about 100,00010,000 a year$1,000
- ▶ 26:52Air compressor and jackhammer
Rental compared with purchase; bundled request, and members suggested it rank above cemetery expansion.
as heard:$200 a day$30,000
- ▶ 32:52Reservoir Road stormwater fix
Request for a drainage fix for water entering a resident's driveway.
as heard:$75,000
- ▶ 47:13Stormwater overall and possible utility or fee
Members said stormwater is straining the capital plan and discussed a comprehensive plan and a stormwater utility or impervious surface fee.
as heard:$3 millionnearly a half a million dollars of project work every year$100,000
- ▶ 53:40Cemetery enhancements bundle
Member said such one-time items belong in the operating budget, not the capital plan.
as heard:$220,000$20,000
- ▶ 1:04:16Cemetery hedge removal and stone wall
Cemetery commission requested funds to replace hedges with a stone wall.
as heard:$350,000220120
- ▶ 1:05:22Plow truck and contractor costs
Members asked for a full-cost analysis of in-house versus contracted plowing, noting trucks already appropriated but not delivered.
as heard:$310,000$200,000
- ▶ 1:15:18Combination vacuum/jetter truck and contracted catch basin cleaning
Combination truck not yet on the plan; contractor cleaning is costed per day.
as heard:$500,000$2,500 a day$2,800
- ▶ 1:23:47Townwide tree maintenance
Members said it should be operating budget with a bigger tree line.
as heard:$30,00010,00050,000
- ▶ 1:42:32Guardrail replacement
Director said guardrail prices rose and it would be a future capital item.
- ▶ 1:51:12Grant writer cost
Members mentioned typical hourly rates for grant writers.
as heard:$50 an hour$20 an hour
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 1:44:40DPW director to return answers to member questions within a week or two, and the outsourced-plowing cost analysis by mid-January, sent to the whole committee and town manager.
- ▶ 1:43:55A grant-opportunity assessment will be added to the capital package, especially for the first year.
- ▶ 1:47:08Minutes of October 23 postponed to the next meeting.
- ▶ 1:48:10Next meeting set for Monday November 20 at 7 o'clock, with schools on the agenda.
- ▶ 1:49:51Members will each rank projects in a spreadsheet, the chair will collate a composite, and the committee will finalize ranking at a later meeting.
- ▶ 51:11Planning board member will check with the stormwater task force representative and possibly ask the planning consultant for information on other communities, and report back.
Public comment
- ▶ 3:58Chair asked for public comment from the public; none was offered.
- ▶ 1:50:31A cemetery commission representative asked how the commission could obtain a grant writer; chair suggested discussing it with the town manager.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- capital106 min · 95%
- roads and dpw52 min · 46%
- water sewer29 min · 26%
- grants27 min · 24%
- planning and zoning21 min · 19%
- superintendent report13 min · 11%
- facilities11 min · 9%
- contracts and unions9 min · 8%
- town departments6 min · 6%
- technology2 min · 2%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:23Opening, open meeting law notice, roll callinformational · 1:51 long
- ▶ 2:14Member unable to access SharePoint fileschair to escalate if unresolved by Monday · 2:04 long · technology
- ▶ 4:18DPW director presentation: 10-year plan and replacement cyclesinformational · 5:32 long · capital, roads and dpw
- ▶ 9:51Second loader requestdiscussed · 6:19 long · capital, roads and dpw
- ▶ 16:10Northfield culvert constructiondiscussed · 2:35 long · capital, grants, roads and dpw
- ▶ 18:45North Cemetery expansion and cemetery funding modeldiscussed · 6:23 long · capital, town departments
- ▶ 25:08Compressor and jackhammer; prioritizationdiscussed · 7:44 long · capital, roads and dpw
- ▶ 32:52Reservoir Road drainage and comprehensive stormwater policydiscussed; follow-up with planning board · 20:48 long · water sewer, capital, planning and zoning
- ▶ 53:40Cemetery enhancements, garage floor, headstones, grants for grave preservationdiscussed · 10:36 long · capital, grants, facilities
- ▶ 1:04:16Cemetery hedge and wall; FY26 seventh plow truck and outsourcinganalysis requested · 8:57 long · capital, contracts and unions, roads and dpw
- ▶ 1:13:13Catch basin cleaning truck and vacuum truck questiondiscussed · 8:01 long · capital, water sewer, roads and dpw
- ▶ 1:21:14Out-year items: trucks, tree maintenance, walls, Blood Hill drainage, culverts, salt shed, loaderinformational · 12:34 long · capital, roads and dpw
- ▶ 1:33:48General discussion: truck delivery status, TIP grants, drainage condition, guardrails, deliverablesfollow-ups assigned · 12:38 long · capital, grants, superintendent report
- ▶ 1:46:26Minutes postponed; schedule and ranking processpostponed · 4:05 long · capital
- ▶ 1:50:31Public comment: grant writer for cemetery commissioninformational · 1:22 long · public comment, grants
- ▶ 1:51:53Adjournmentvoted by roll call · 0:43 long
What the captions could not carry
- Meeting phone number and some roll call details were garbled in the captions.
- Several speakers are not identified; attribution of most comments is uncertain.
- The mover and seconder of the adjournment were not identified.
- Cost figures throughout, especially cemetery and stormwater, are unreliable in the captions.
- Some stretches around the Blood Hill drainage discussion are garbled.
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