What was said

Cemetery Commission, May 16, 2024

the recording · 1:34 long, about 11,859 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:05:33The commission voted to let a family place an additional stone and move the current stone over at South Cemetery.
  2. ▶ 1:15:19The commission voted to have Lake View do the front-entrance flowers at the North and South cemeteries, up to a stated cap.
  3. ▶ 4:09Residents criticized the condition of the cemeteries ahead of Memorial Day, and the DPW director described mowing, staffing and equipment steps under way.
  4. ▶ 1:03:04The Lake View hedge-trimming quote was tabled to June, pending a description and a timing check.
  5. ▶ 34:52The chair and DPW director will meet first to start a phased maintenance plan, then bring it back to the commission.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The DPW budget covers maintenance only, not upgrades such as turf restoration, so cemetery upgrades depend on the commission advocating for them at budget time.
  • Residents also raised the split between day-to-day operations (DPW) and policy (commission) as unresolved, which bears on who answers for cemetery upkeep.

Watch next

  • The June meeting: the hedge-trimming quote, North Cemetery open-lot mapping, flagpole lighting costs, and the maintenance plan are all due back.

budgetcapitalcontracts and unionsfacilitieshiringpersonnelpublic commentroads and dpwtown departments

Present: Chair (cemetery commission chair, unnamed) (chair); Mike (member); David Dorren (member); Bill Bernard (DPW director); Todd Holman (cemetery superintendent (referred to; presence unclear)). 1 of 5 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 1:05:33Allow the family to place an additional stone and move the current stone over at South Cemetery. — moved by Mike or Dave (unclear), as heardpassed
  2. ▶ 1:15:19Have Lake View do the flowers for the North and South front cemeteries, up to a stated cap.passed

And 2 procedural: accept the minutes of april 25th. (▶ 1:00:19); adjourn. (▶ 1:34:29).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 9 agree, 3 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsPesticide/herbicide or lawn restoration $50,000▶ 1:31:21

    recording Lawn restoration (seed and top dressing): $50,000

    town’s minutes “a consultant last year recommended price of $50k.”

    Both give $50K, but ours attaches it to lawn restoration (seed and top dressing) and the official attaches it to a consultant's price for pesticide/herbicide work; check the recording around t=5481 to see which item the figure belongs to.

  2. differsGrub control / maintenance plan vs. School Department field maintenance▶ 1:32:22

    recording DPW director to consult Lake View and others on grub control, fertilizer and a calendar-based maintenance plan for the next meeting.

    town’s minutes “dpw director, bernard will look into this.”

    Both assign follow-up to the DPW director but describe different subjects (ours: Lake View on grub control and fertilizer; official: the School Department's field maintenance plan, schedule and licenses); check the recording and the full official text.

3 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Lake View hedge trimming quote:Lake View shrub/hedge trimming quote: $25 $2,600→$2,625.00▶ 1:02:23
  • Attendee: Mike (member):Mike (member)→Michael Clark
  • Attendee: Dave (member):Dave (member)→David Dorren
In one record only: 6 from the recording, 5 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Flagpole illumination light prices: Flagpole illumination lights: $39.99, $79.99 ▶ 1:17:46
  • Recording only — Old headstone washing and repair figures: Old headstone washing and repair: $338,000, 38,000, 385 ▶ 1:24:00
  • Recording only — Cemetery appropriation and balance: Cemetery appropriation and balance: $10,000, $7,000 ▶ 54:41
  • Recording only — Mowing labor hours: Mowing labor hours: 40 work hours, 24 to 30 hours, 16 to 20 hours ▶ 48:46
  • Recording only — North Cemetery open-lot mapping to June: Open-lot mapping/printout for North Cemetery to be discussed at the June meeting. ▶ 1:11:31
  • Recording only — Todd Holman, cemetery superintendent: Todd Holman (cemetery superintendent (referred to; presence unclear))
  • Town’s minutes only — Fish Street gate and wall: “the labor will be donated: cemetery commission will buy supplies for gate and wall to be started and completed in fall/2024.”
  • Town’s minutes only — DPW to provide water for the season: “dpw director, bernard stated the dpw will be providing water for the season.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Chair to contact the family about the second headstone: “the chair will contact the family.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Landscape contractor pricing from six companies: “bill reached out to six landscape companies to get pricing.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public attendees David Rogers and David Passios: “david rogers and david passios.”

Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 33:10DPW cemetery maintenance budget

    The DPW director said his budget covers maintenance only, not upgrades such as turf restoration, and asked the commission to advocate for upgrade projects at budget time.

  2. ▶ 54:41Cemetery appropriation and balance

    A resident recalled an allocation in the budget with a remaining balance and asked why money is short yet seasonal staff are hired.

    as heard:$10,000$7,000

  3. ▶ 40:29Landscaping contractor quotes for mowing

    Six landscapers were asked for prices; Lake View gave the best and is currently working, with two others available as backup.

  4. ▶ 1:02:23Lake View shrub/hedge trimming quote

    A quote for trimming shrubs would come from commission funds; DPW director said he lacks the money until the new fiscal year in July. Tabled pending a description and timing.

    as heard:$25 $2,600

  5. ▶ 1:14:59Front entrance flowers

    Commission agreed it pays for the flowers, voted to cap the amount; DPW to handle watering.

    as heard:$500

  6. ▶ 1:17:46Flagpole illumination lights

    Solar lights priced online were mentioned; concern about durability and installation cost; electricity run to flagpoles was costed as expensive.

    as heard:$39.99$79.99

  7. ▶ 1:24:00Old headstone washing and repair

    Estimate from Leominster monument contractor for washing and repairing older stones, the figure was uncertain in the captions and in the master plan.

    as heard:$338,00038,000385

  8. ▶ 1:31:21Lawn restoration (seed and top dressing)

    Former Gatsby Grounds owner suggested seeding and top dressing with a rough estimate.

    as heard:$50,000

  9. ▶ 48:46Mowing labor hours

    A landscaper pilot and actual bill compared hours to mow North and South cemeteries.

    as heard:40 work hours24 to 30 hours16 to 20 hours

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 34:52Chair and DPW director will meet first to begin a strategic/phased maintenance plan, then bring it back to the commission.
  • ▶ 1:03:04Hedge trimming quote tabled to June pending a description and timing check with Lake View.
  • ▶ 1:08:23Commission agreed no vote is needed for a family adding a memorial inscription for a relative buried elsewhere.
  • ▶ 1:11:31Open-lot mapping/printout for North Cemetery to be discussed at the June meeting.
  • ▶ 1:22:14DPW director to check with the town electrician and facilities director on flagpole lighting costs; chair to contact other cemeteries; return next meeting.
  • ▶ 1:32:22DPW director to consult Lake View and others on grub control, fertilizer and a calendar-based maintenance plan for the next meeting.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 4:09Cemeteries look unkempt, asked for a plan for mowing, said past staffing was leaner yet better, and asked about flags. — Dave Rogers, as heard, resident, Highland Street; disabled Vietnam veteran
  2. ▶ 6:58Agreed with prior speaker; said the Charter and bylaws are a mess and the split between day-to-day operations (DPW) and policy (commission) for cemeteries and parks must be resolved. — Dave Paso, as heard, resident, Whiting Street
  3. ▶ 54:21Asked why money seems short for needs yet two seasonal workers are hired, questioned what the superintendent has been doing, and offered to organize volunteers. — a speaker, resident (apparently the earlier speaker)

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Opening, open meeting law notice, Police Weekinformational · 3:48 long
  2. ▶ 3:48Public comment on cemetery condition and governanceinformational · 4:56 long · public comment, town departments
  3. ▶ 8:44Chair's response, resident letter read, commissioners' comments on conditions and communicationinformational · 14:06 long · town departments, facilities
  4. ▶ 22:50DPW director response on letter, hedges, budget limitsinformational; plan to meet separately · 13:50 long · roads and dpw, budget, facilities
  5. ▶ 36:40DPW director update: work done, mowing, contractors, seasonal hires, equipment, pumps, flagsinformational · 14:10 long · roads and dpw, hiring, contracts and unions
  6. ▶ 50:50501(c)(3) friends group cautioninformational · 3:30 long · legal
  7. ▶ 54:20Resident questions on funding and superintendent duties; offer of volunteersinformational · 5:00 long · public comment, budget
  8. ▶ 59:20Approval of April 25 minutesvoted · 1:20 long
  9. ▶ 1:00:40Lake View hedge trimming quotetabled to June · 2:40 long · contracts and unions, budget
  10. ▶ 1:03:20Additional gravestone request and memorial inscriptionvoted for stone; inscription needs no vote · 5:00 long · policy
  11. ▶ 1:08:20Rainmaker open lot mappingto June meeting · 3:30 long · facilities
  12. ▶ 1:11:50Entrance flowersvoted · 4:10 long · budget, contracts and unions
  13. ▶ 1:16:00Flagpole illumination lightingreferred for pricing · 7:40 long · capital, facilities
  14. ▶ 1:23:40Headstone washing/repair project and maintenance plan detail, lawn caretabled; follow-up work assigned · 10:30 long · capital, facilities, budget
  15. ▶ 1:34:10Adjournmentvoted · 0:50 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Who moved and seconded each motion is not identified.
  • Vote counts are not stated; outcomes come from 'all in favor' responses only.
  • The headstone repair estimate is garbled (338,000 vs 38,000 vs 385).
  • The hedge quote amount is garbled ('$25 $2,600').
  • The chair's name and some speakers' names are mangled or unidentified.
  • Captions at around 3573-3619 contain applause/gap while minutes were read.

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