What was said

Cemetery Commission, June 26, 2025

the recording · 1:20 long, about 9,020 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 8:58Commission approved the annual RainMaker/SIMS cemetery software invoice, the amount as heard from captions.
  2. ▶ 9:18Members began planning a North Cemetery back-lot expansion, already funded at town meeting, and a possible South Cemetery expansion.
  3. ▶ 26:01No new spending was voted beyond the software invoice; hedge and tree replacement, stone walls, and grant funding were discussed without decisions.
  4. ▶ 58:38The commission reviewed cemetery fund balances and will discuss a spending plan for sale-of-lots revenue at a future meeting.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Cemetery lot supply is running low, which is why an expansion already funded at town meeting is being planned for the North Cemetery, with a South Cemetery expansion also under discussion.
  • How the sale-of-lots, capital, and perpetual care fund balances get spent was reviewed but not decided, a question that affects future cemetery costs to the town.
  • No new town spending was authorized beyond the recurring software fee.

Watch next

  • An August on-site walk of North and South Cemeteries, to be finalized and noticed in July
  • A spending plan for the sale-of-lots fund, to be taken up at a future meeting

budgetcapitalfacilitiesgrantspublic commentroads and dpwtechnologytown departments

Present: Mike Clark (chair); David Dorren (vice chair); Donna Landry (clerk). 2 of 3 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 8:58Approve the RainMaker/SIMS invoice for $2620.passed

And 2 procedural: approve the meeting minutes of thursday, may 22, 2025. (▶ 2:35); adjourn the meeting. (▶ 1:19:32).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 5 agree, 1 caption error resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsWho is contacting Bill Bernard about survey/tree removal, and the assessor's-office step▶ 23:51

    recording Chair will contact Bill regarding survey work and tree removal for the North Cemetery expansion, and check with the assessor's office about existing GIS/survey maps.

    town’s minutes “Vice Chair David Dorren will call DPW Superintendent Bill Bernard regarding the Survey and the Trees, along with the start of the Backlot project. Vice Chair David Dorren will ask DPW Superintendent Bill Bernard if he has a set of maps.”

    Attribution differs (Chair vs. Vice Chair) and ours adds a step — the assessor's office — not in official; check the recording at t=1431 for both points.

  2. differsWho is pricing stone wall repair▶ 35:40

    recording Donna Landry will look into pricing for stone wall repair around the cemeteries.

    town’s minutes “Chair Mike Clark will investigate sourcing a couple of local stone masons who could perform the repairs and quote, determining scope that we can support.”

    Ours assigns this to the Clerk (Donna Landry); official assigns it to the Chair (Mike Clark) — check the recording at t=2140 for who actually took it on.

1 caption error the town’s minutes resolve
  • Vice Chair's surname:Dave Doran→Dorren
In one record only: 11 from the recording, 5 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — CIMS annual maintenance fee breakdown: $1,420 (t=196) ▶ 3:16
  • Recording only — Burial-search hosting license fee: $1,200 (t=305) ▶ 5:05
  • Recording only — Grant-writer comparison fees: $50, $60/hr, $800 (t=3277) ▶ 54:37
  • Recording only — Sale of lots fund balance: $94,490 (t=3583) ▶ 59:43
  • Recording only — Capital fund balance: $10,606 (t=3605) ▶ 1:00:05
  • Recording only — Perpetual care interest (expendable) balance: $20,000 (t=3605) ▶ 1:00:05
  • Recording only — Perpetual care principal (non-expendable) balance: $233,000 (t=3625) ▶ 1:00:25
  • Recording only — Gift fund balance: $209 39 (t=3625) ▶ 1:00:25
  • Recording only — Capital article allocation for cemetery work: $10,000 (t=3666) ▶ 1:01:06
  • Recording only — Hypothetical sale-of-lots spend-down figures: $88,000, 60 (t=4258) ▶ 1:10:58
  • Recording only — Scheduling RainMaker/CIMS training via Zoom: Commission will schedule a future meeting for RainMaker to train the three commissioners on the SIMS software via Zoom. ▶ 5:47
  • Town’s minutes only — Previous chair's list of grants: “Also review the list of grants that the previous chair, Nancy Foss Yasko had provided.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Zoom timeout / town IT follow-up: “Issues were experienced with the Zoom timeout, Chair Mike Clark to check with town IT on Zoom.”
  • Town’s minutes only — South Cemetery available plot count: “Bill had estimated as 10 plots available. Use the CIMS software to go in and identify all viable plots.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Point of contact for day-to-day cemetery issues: “who is the point of contact for day-to-day cemetery issues, Vice Chair David Dorren will contact the Town Manager to discuss.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Who moved and seconded the CIMS invoice vote: “Chair David Dorren motioned we approve the CIMS invoice for $2620.00, Clerk Donna Landry seconded, AIF”

Compared 2026-09-28. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 3:16SIMS Cloud annual maintenance fee

    The invoice covers annual maintenance for one full-access license (for DPW) and one read-only license for the SIMS cemetery database.

    as heard:1420

  2. ▶ 5:05Burial search annual hosting license

    A separate annual hosting fee covers the public-facing burial search website tied to the same database.

    as heard:1,200

  3. ▶ 8:58RainMaker invoice, total

    The commission voted to approve expending funds to pay the combined RainMaker invoice; the treasurer's office will process payment after signatures.

    as heard:$2620

  4. ▶ 54:37Grant-writer fees (prior nonprofit experience, cited as comparison)

    A member described a past experience with a paid grant-writing service, paid whether or not a grant was awarded, as a possible model for the cemetery.

    as heard:$50$60 an hour$800

  5. ▶ 59:43Sale of lots fund balance

    Figure given as the current sale-of-lots fund balance from the town's fund report as of March 31, 2025.

    as heard:94490

  6. ▶ 1:00:05Capital fund balance

    Listed as the capital fund balance alongside the other cemetery accounts.

    as heard:10,606

  7. ▶ 1:00:05Perpetual care interest (expendable)

    Described as the expendable interest portion of the perpetual care fund, available to spend.

    as heard:20,000

  8. ▶ 1:00:25Perpetual care principal (non-expendable)

    Described as the non-expendable principal of the perpetual care fund, which cannot be spent.

    as heard:233,000

  9. ▶ 1:00:25Gift fund balance

    Listed among the account balances reviewed from the town's fund report; exact figure unclear as heard.

    as heard:209 39

  10. ▶ 1:01:06Capital article allocation for cemetery work

    Referenced as the amount allocated through a capital article at town meeting, partly already spent on mowing and the RainMaker system.

    as heard:10 thousand

  11. ▶ 1:10:58Hypothetical spend-down scenario for sale-of-lots fund

    A member posed a hypothetical of spending a portion of an $88,000 balance to illustrate how long it would take to recoup the funds from lot sales; not an actual proposal or figure.

    as heard:88,00060

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 5:47Commission will schedule a future meeting for RainMaker to train the three commissioners on the SIMS software via Zoom.
  • ▶ 9:40Chair to follow up with DPW's Bill Bernard on North Cemetery back-lot expansion plans, with the understanding the commission will be kept informed before any work begins.
  • ▶ 23:51Chair will contact Bill regarding survey work and tree removal for the North Cemetery expansion, and check with the assessor's office about existing GIS/survey maps.
  • ▶ 31:44Chair will ask Bill about locating local stump grinders to remove hedge stumps before replanting trees.
  • ▶ 35:40Donna Landry will look into pricing for stone wall repair around the cemeteries.
  • ▶ 45:51Commission is already scheduled to walk the South Cemetery back-lot area in August.
  • ▶ 53:50Commission will contact Town Manager Jennifer about the process for pursuing grants before deciding whether to seek an outside grant writer.
  • ▶ 57:49A member will look into how a prior earmark request was submitted (via the state representative/senator's office) to pursue funding again.
  • ▶ 1:14:54Commission will wait until July to finalize and notice the August meeting date, to be held at the cemeteries.
  • ▶ 1:15:37Commission will meet at the North Cemetery parking lot and walk that cemetery, with South Cemetery to be walked on a separate date.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:02Call to order, remote-meeting notice, pledge of allegianceprocedural · 1:27 long
  2. ▶ 1:51Approval of May 22, 2025 minutesvoted · 1:05 long
  3. ▶ 2:56SIMS/RainMaker cemetery software invoice and licensingvoted · 6:20 long · budget, technology
  4. ▶ 9:18North Cemetery back-lot expansion: acreage, GIS mapping, tree removal, road layoutinformational; DPW follow-up planned · 13:07 long · facilities, capital
  5. ▶ 22:25Burial plot orientation requirements and survey/assessor's map questionsinformational · 3:36 long · facilities
  6. ▶ 26:01Hedge/tree replacement along cemetery road and stump removalno resolution; DPW to be consulted · 6:03 long · facilities
  7. ▶ 32:04Stone wall deterioration and repair optionsno resolution; pricing to be sought · 3:36 long · facilities, capital
  8. ▶ 35:40South Cemetery available lots and potential back-lot expansion using GIS/RainMaker mappinginformational; expansion planning to begin · 10:11 long · facilities, capital
  9. ▶ 45:51South Cemetery wall work and North Cemetery holiday mowing/maintenance concernsinformational; contact DPW · 6:53 long · facilities, town departments
  10. ▶ 52:44Pursuing grants for cemetery projectsreferred to town manager · 3:59 long · grants
  11. ▶ 56:43Legislative earmark funding possibilitiesno resolution; follow-up planned · 1:55 long · grants
  12. ▶ 58:38Review of cemetery fund balances and spending policy on sale-of-lots revenueinformational; spending plan to be discussed next meeting · 14:05 long · budget, capital
  13. ▶ 1:12:43Scheduling future meetings, including on-site walks of North and South Cemeteriesinformational; date to be set in July · 3:15 long
  14. ▶ 1:15:58Zoom/recording technical difficulties during the meetingno resolution; to check with library/town · 3:12 long · technology
  15. ▶ 1:19:10Public commentno members of the public present to comment · 0:44 long · public comment
  16. ▶ 1:19:54Adjournment; next meeting set for July 30 at the libraryvoted · 0:19 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Whether the meeting recording/Zoom session was actually capturing audio around 1713-1757 is unclear from the captions themselves.
  • The exact figure for the 'gift fund' balance (heard as '209 39') is unclear.
  • Whether the North Cemetery's total acreage is 22 acres or closer to 50 acres was disputed and left unresolved in the captions (figures given as '22 acres', '2200 acres', and 'almost 50 acres').
  • Individual speakers are not identified by name throughout; attributions of specific remarks to Clark, Doran, or Landry are uncertain.
  • Portions of the GIS-mapping walkthrough (roughly 1200-1345 and 2438-2751) are hard to follow due to cross-talk and references to on-screen visuals not described in captions.

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