What was said
Cemetery Commission, October 30, 2025
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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 1:04:31The commission will send the Town Manager a letter requesting a full-time cemetery employee, citing mapping and workload problems.
- ▶ 53:07Members decided not to pursue buying the adjacent Holman Street lot, citing other funding priorities.
- ▶ 57:17Site walkthroughs were scheduled for Fish Street Cemetery on November 6 and South Cemetery's wall repair on November 13.
- ▶ 1:28:02The commission found it is not currently set up to offer green burials under existing rules, but will keep researching the idea.
- ▶ 1:23:30Members agreed to research historical-preservation grants and ask the town's IT staff about a cloud-based repository for commission records.
Why it matters — our reading
- A request for a new full-time position becomes a staffing and budget ask the town will need to weigh against other departments.
- Passing on the neighboring lot leaves the cemetery's mapping and capacity problems unresolved for now, which is part of why the staffing request is going forward.
- The scheduled walkthroughs are a way for residents to see backlog and wall-repair work in person before any further budget requests are made.
Watch next
- The commission's letter to the Town Manager requesting a full-time cemetery employee
- Site walkthroughs: Fish Street Cemetery, Nov. 6; South Cemetery wall repair, Nov. 13
budgetcapitalfacilitiesgrantshiringpersonnelpolicyroads and dpwstaffingtechnologytransfers
Present: the chair (chair); Todd (cemetery superintendent); David Dorren (board member / DPW-related official); Mike (commission member); Bill (DPW official (budget/labor advocate)). 1 of 5 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
No substantive votes heard. 2 procedural.
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 10 agree, 3 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 8 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.
recording the chair (chair) — listed separately from Mike, a commission member
town’s minutes “Chair: Chair Mike Clark”
Our minutes never link the unnamed "chair" to Mike, and list Mike separately as an ordinary member; check the recording to confirm Mike Clark chaired and was not double-counted as two attendees.
- differsDave's role
recording Dave (board member / DPW-related official)
town’s minutes “Vice-Chair: Dave Dorren”
Our minutes describe Dave as DPW-related rather than as the commission's Vice-Chair; check the recording for how he was introduced.
- differs$10,000 stone-straightening transfer
recording Town-meeting-authorized transfer into the capital article fund to cover cemetery stone straightening work — 10,000 (discussed only)
town’s minutes —
A specific $10,000 transfer figure discussed in our recording has no corresponding mention anywhere in the official minutes, which instead describe only a $3K initial investment for 150 feet of wall; check the recording to see whether this $10,000 is a separate town-meeting article or a mistranscription of the $3K figure.
- differsreason for declining Holman Street lot
recording Decided not to pursue purchasing the adjacent Holman Street lot at this time, citing other funding priorities.
town’s minutes “Agreed that at this point, we did not have an immediate need due to the current acreage of the North Cemetery.”
Both agree the commission declined to pursue the lot, but the stated reason differs — funding priorities (ours) versus sufficient existing acreage (official); check the recording for the actual rationale given.
- differsfinance director / town accountant meeting
recording Schedule a joint sit-down with the new Finance Director (Katie McKenna) and the Town Accountant (Jennifer) to review fund definitions and fiduciary responsibilities before town meeting.
town’s minutes “Lunenburg's Finance Director provided an update on the value of our funds”
Our minutes record a decision to schedule a FUTURE meeting with the Finance Director and Town Accountant; the official minutes instead describe the Finance Director's update as already delivered at this meeting, with no mention of a future sit-down being scheduled — check the recording to see whether a follow-up meeting was actually agreed.
- differsfull-time cemetery employee letter
recording Draft and sign a joint letter from the commission to the Town Manager (Jennifer) advocating for a full-time cemetery employee.
town’s minutes “Mike Clark added that he would send a letter to the Select Board requesting an additional full-time person for the DPW Cemetery Department.”
Both records agree a letter advocating for a full-time position will be sent, but they disagree on both the sender (the commission jointly vs. Mike Clark personally) and the recipient (Town Manager vs. Select Board) — check the recording to confirm who is sending the letter and to whom.
- differsgrant research assignment
recording Contact Bill Tyler at the historical society/commission and look at other towns' cemetery commissions to find out how grants have been obtained in the past.
town’s minutes “Donna Landry to investigate other areas, including the Historical Society, to determine how we can access them, where to look and what we can get, including other townships.”
Both describe researching grants via the historical society and other towns, but ours names Bill Tyler as the contact while official assigns the task to Donna Landry with no "Bill Tyler" mentioned — check the recording for who was actually tasked and whether a Bill Tyler contact was named.
- differsrecords repository decision
recording Ask the town's IT/office staff (Carara McCarthy) about setting up a cloud-based (e.g. SharePoint) repository for commission records.
town’s minutes “Discussed the need for a better way for us to keep track of our minutes, agenda, etc. for future use. To be tabled for now and discussed later.”
Our minutes present this as an action item (ask a named staffer about SharePoint); the official minutes say the topic was tabled with no action taken — check the recording for whether anyone was actually asked to look into a system.
3 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
- Perpetual Care Trust Fund balance:237,82→$237,802.91
- Expendable (interest) fund balance:23,482→$23,482.74
- cemetery mapping software name:SIMS cemetery software support hours→CIM Software
In one record only: 8 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Sale of Lots fund prior balance: 94494
- Recording only — Capital Article Fund extra figures: 10,606, 1700
- Recording only — Perpetual Care Trust Fund prior balance: 233,62
- Recording only — Expendable interest fund prior balance: 20,000 78
- Recording only — unexpended stone-straightening funds: 13 550
- Recording only — flagpole/lighting cost figure: 10,000
- Recording only — Holman Street lot figures: 2.39 acres, 100,000, 102, 2.31
- Recording only — software support hours: 3 hours
- Town’s minutes only — Clerk attendee: “Clerk: Clerk Donna Landry”
- Town’s minutes only — software training details: “Commission did an online training with Brandon Finley on October 27th to get a better overview of the mapping and capabilities”
- Town’s minutes only — fertilizer delivery: “DPW also mentioned that Fertilizer came in for the South and North Cemetery.”
- Town’s minutes only — North Cemetery backlot expansion timeline: “We should get an update from Dillis and Roy in 2 weeks for a draft plan of what needs to be done and what it will look like.”
Compared 2026-09-28. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
Transfers
| at | what moved | amount, as heard | outcome |
|---|---|---|---|
| ▶ 8:45 | Town-meeting-authorized transfer into the capital article fund to cover cemetery stone straightening work | 10,000 | discussed only |
The money
- ▶ 4:07Sale of Lots fund
The chair reported the fund's value at two points in time using figures supplied by the new finance director.
as heard:94494105971
- ▶ 4:28Capital article fund (expendable)
This fund decreased due to paying invoices, including a survey invoice for the backlog expansion.
as heard:10,6064,2831700
- ▶ 4:48Capital plan for North Cemetery backlog expansion
The capital plan total was stated, with an initial survey invoice already paid against it.
as heard:50,0001700
- ▶ 5:52Cemetery Perpetual Care Trust Fund
The trust fund balance was reported as having increased slightly between the two reporting periods.
as heard:233,62237,82
- ▶ 6:12Cemetery Perpetual Care (expendable interest) fund
This expendable interest fund increased slightly between the two reporting periods.
as heard:20,000 7823,482
- ▶ 6:33Perpetual care fund expenditures not yet reflected
Two payments were made from the perpetual care fund that FY25 close-out had not yet captured, one to a monument company and one to Lakeview.
as heard:$7,500$8125
- ▶ 7:59Corrected perpetual care balance
After accounting for the two unrecorded payments, the corrected fund balance was restated.
as heard:7,857.7423,48275008125
- ▶ 9:49Unexpended stone straightening funds
The remaining unexpended amount for headstone straightening was noted; because it exceeds a threshold the work must go out to bid.
as heard:13 550
- ▶ 29:11South Cemetery wall rebuild cost
A contractor was paid a flat amount to rebuild roughly 150 feet of stone wall, which came out to less per foot than the original quote; a further similar amount could fund another section.
as heard:$3,000150 feet800 ft
- ▶ 34:35Flag pole and memorial lighting
A lighting plan for the flag poles and revolutionary war stone was described as likely costing well over the capital threshold requiring a bid.
as heard:10,000
- ▶ 44:55Adjacent Holman Street lot for sale
A realtor and the town manager reached out about a lot across from North Cemetery; the commission discussed and declined to pursue purchasing it now.
as heard:2.39 acres100,0001022.31
- ▶ 1:11:02Full-time cemetery labor position
A goal to hire cemetery labor was included in a budget presentation to the Select Board, Finance Committee and School Committee; the commission agreed to send a letter advocating for the position.
- ▶ 1:01:05SIMS cemetery software support hours
The commission has an annual allotment of support hours with the software vendor for assistance including importing the new expansion layout.
as heard:3 hours
- ▶ 1:13:28Massachusetts Historic Preservation matching grant
A matching grant program was found to require applicants to be 501(c)(3) nonprofits, which the commission is not, ruling it out.
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 11:10Schedule a joint sit-down with the new Finance Director (Katie McKenna) and the Town Accountant (Jennifer) to review fund definitions and fiduciary responsibilities before town meeting.
- ▶ 57:17Set a site walkthrough at the Fish Street cemetery for Thursday, November 6, at 8:00 a.m.
- ▶ 58:34Set a follow-up site walkthrough at South Cemetery to review the wall work for Thursday, November 13, at 8:00 a.m.
- ▶ 53:07Decided not to pursue purchasing the adjacent Holman Street lot at this time, citing other funding priorities.
- ▶ 1:04:31Draft and sign a joint letter from the commission to the Town Manager (Jennifer) advocating for a full-time cemetery employee.
- ▶ 1:23:30Contact Bill Tyler at the historical society/commission and look at other towns' cemetery commissions to find out how grants have been obtained in the past.
- ▶ 1:34:54Ask the town's IT/office staff (Carara McCarthy) about setting up a cloud-based (e.g. SharePoint) repository for commission records.
- ▶ 1:28:02Determined the commission is not currently set up to offer green burials under existing cemetery rules, but will keep it as a future educational topic.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- facilities51 min · 52%
- budget28 min · 28%
- staffing15 min · 15%
- grants15 min · 15%
- capital15 min · 15%
- personnel13 min · 13%
- transfers12 min · 12%
- hiring10 min · 10%
- technology6 min · 6%
- policy4 min · 4%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:03Meeting opening, Zoom/AV setup, call to order, pledge of allegianceprocedural · 0:42 long
- ▶ 1:10Review and approve September 25th minutes, with a name correctionvoted · 2:34 long
- ▶ 3:45Review of cemetery fund account balances (sale of lots, capital article, perpetual care)informational, no vote · 8:46 long · budget, transfers, capital
- ▶ 12:31Plan to meet with new Finance Director on fund definitions and stone-work transfermeeting to be scheduled · 3:29 long · budget, transfers
- ▶ 16:01DPW/superintendent report: North Cemetery backlog expansion engineering, fill and paving costsinformational · 3:04 long · capital, facilities, roads and dpw
- ▶ 19:26Fish Street cemetery genealogy research and headstone/plaque restoration (Good Rich/Goodridge family)informational · 11:36 long · facilities
- ▶ 31:02Future West Street Terrace project and responsibility for unmarked gravestabled for future · 2:12 long · facilities, staffing
- ▶ 33:14Proposed lighting for flag poles and memorial stonetabled for future budget discussion · 2:22 long · capital, facilities
- ▶ 35:36Seasonal maintenance: irrigation, new trees, seasonal hire, work-release crewinformational · 3:07 long · staffing, facilities
- ▶ 38:43Credit to DPW/superintendent team, wall rebuild cost, fiscal year clarification on trust fundsinformational · 5:31 long · budget, facilities
- ▶ 44:14North Cemetery backlog expansion status checkinformational · 0:20 long · capital
- ▶ 44:34Possible purchase of adjacent Holman Street lotdecided not to pursue purchase now · 9:57 long · facilities, budget
- ▶ 54:31Scheduling site walkthroughs at Fish Street and South Cemeterydates set · 6:13 long · facilities
- ▶ 1:00:44SIMS cemetery software training and tech support hoursinformational · 1:22 long · technology
- ▶ 1:02:06Cemetery mapping accuracy problems and need for additional full-time staffdecision to draft letter to Town Manager · 9:58 long · staffing, hiring, personnel
- ▶ 1:12:04Search for historical preservation grants; Mass Historical Commission filingsno resolution, continuing research · 6:56 long · grants, facilities
- ▶ 1:19:00Plan to contact historical society and other towns about past cemetery grantsreferred · 8:20 long · grants
- ▶ 1:27:20Resident inquiry about green burialsdetermined not currently feasible · 3:47 long · policy
- ▶ 1:31:07Need for a cloud-based document repository for commission recordsreferred to town IT · 4:49 long · technology
- ▶ 1:35:56Superintendent's on-record thank-you statement to colleaguesinformational · 3:05 long · personnel
- ▶ 1:39:01Adjournmentvoted · 0:39 long
What the captions could not carry
- The exact figures for the Cemetery Perpetual Care Trust Fund (heard as "233,62" to "237,82") are unclear and likely mis-transcribed.
- The corrected spelling of the DPW/TPW director's name at the start of the meeting is not clear from the captions.
- The name of the surveying/engineering firm working on North Cemetery (heard as "Dielson Roy" or "Phyllis and Roy") is uncertain.
- The volunteer's name doing genealogy fieldwork was heard inconsistently as both "Chase Jamza" and "Jace Chamza."
- The exact asking price for the Holman Street lot varied across the discussion ("100,000", "102", "500") and could not be settled.
- Several stretches of overlapping cross-talk among board members, Todd, and Dave were not fully intelligible.
- Who specifically made and seconded each motion (minutes approval and adjournment) is not clear from the captions.
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