What was said
Charter Review Committee, December 12, 2018
the recording · 2:18 long, about 16,054 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/charter-review-committee/2018.json
The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 1:08:43The committee voted to remove the brown appointment language in 3-2-D, keeping the Finance Committee registered-voter wording; the vote was announced as 7-1.
- ▶ 43:19It voted to define a day as a calendar day except where stated otherwise, and to change references to months into 30-day counts.
- ▶ 47:49It approved the purple changes except those referring to days or months, and accepted the changes in 4-5 and the town manager compliance language as written.
- ▶ 1:53:03Red items were not voted on and go to the public hearing as open questions.
- ▶ 2:00:24A public hearing was set for January 9 at Town Hall, a second for February 27, and a meeting for March 13.
Why it matters — our reading
- The changes shape who can be appointed to Lunenburg boards and how charter deadlines are counted, and the committee's final package is what residents will later be asked to vote on.
- The red items are still open, so residents can weigh in on them at the public hearing before the committee decides.
Watch next
- Public hearing on January 9 at Town Hall, then a second hearing on February 27 and a committee meeting on March 13.
- Proposed changes are to be posted online before and after the public hearing, subject to legal review.
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Present: Tanner Cole (member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 10:31Nomination for chair of the committee.not audible
- ▶ 10:57Nomination for clerk of the committee.not audible
- ▶ 11:58Nomination for vice chair.not audible
- ▶ 43:19Define in the definitions section a day as a calendar day except where stated otherwise.passed
- ▶ 45:57Change references to months into 30-day counts.passed
- ▶ 47:49Approve all purple changes except those referring to days or months.passed
- ▶ 1:08:43Remove the brown appointment language in 3-2-D, keeping the Finance Committee registered-voter wording.passed 7-1 as announced
- ▶ 1:21:56Accept the brown planning director language.not audible
- ▶ 1:26:21Approve the brown town manager personnel language.not audible
- ▶ 1:28:08Accept screening committee language, amended to town residents.not audible
- ▶ 1:32:07Accept the brown language in 4-2-C.not audible
- ▶ 1:35:07Accept the brown maintenance language.not audible
- ▶ 1:36:59Approve the brown bargaining unit language.not audible
- ▶ 1:39:06Accept the changes in 4-5.passed
- ▶ 1:46:26Accept the brown filling vacancies language.not audible
- ▶ 1:51:37Accept the town manager compliance language as written.passed
And 2 procedural: approve the october 24th minutes. (▶ 14:11); adjourn. (▶ 2:18:40).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 5 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 12 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.
recording Accept screening committee language, amended to town residents. — not audible
town’s minutes “terri moved to approve, jamie seconded; discussion: amended to 2 town residents; vote unanimous (8-0).”
Ours has no outcome; official records passage 8-0 with '2 town residents'; check the recording.
recording Accept the brown language in 4-2-C. — not audible
town’s minutes “jim moved to approve; terri seconded; discussion: none; vote unanimous (8-0).”
Ours records no outcome; official says passed 8-0; check recording.
recording Accept the brown maintenance language. — not audible
town’s minutes “jamie moved to approve, terri seconded, vote unanimous (8-0).”
Likely 4-2(i), where official also has cemetery marked red; ours has no outcome; verify.
recording Approve the brown bargaining unit language. — not audible
town’s minutes “mark moved to approve, terri seconded, vote unanimous (8-0).”
Probably 4-2(l); ours has no outcome and the section match is unconfirmed; check recording.
recording Accept the brown filling vacancies language. — not audible
town’s minutes “terri moved to accept the brown language; jim seconded; vote unanimous (8-0)”
Possibly 7-8(f), but the match is uncertain; ours has no outcome; check the recording.
recording Accept the town manager compliance language as written. — passed
town’s minutes “mark moved to approve, nancy seconded; no discussion; vote unanimous (8-0)”
Possibly 7-11, but the match is unconfirmed; check which section this was.
recording Nomination for chair of the committee. — not audible
town’s minutes “terri nominated steve as chair, heather seconded; vote unanimous (8-0).”
Ours records no outcome for the three nominations; official records Archambault chair, Erickson clerk, Burchfield vice chair, all 8-0.
recording Accept the brown planning director language. — not audible; Approve the brown town manager personnel language. — not audible
town’s minutes “jim moved to approve, jamie seconded; vote unanimous (8-0).”
Ours has two votes with no outcome, and the official minutes have no clearly matching items; check which sections these were and how they came out.
recording Public hearing set for January 9 at Town Hall.
town’s minutes “next meeting: january 9, 2019 agenda adjusted to allow public comment”
Ours calls January 9 a public hearing; official calls it the next meeting with public comment, and the first hearing date is not given; check the recording.
recording Second public hearing set for February 27; meeting on March 13.
town’s minutes “feb 27 second ph; warrant goes to press apr 5”
Feb 27 agrees, but the official has no March 13 meeting and adds an Apr 5 press date and Mar 21 warrant close; verify.
recording Red items will not be voted on tonight and will go to the public hearing as open questions.
town’s minutes “we'll develop pros and cons after the public hearings.”
Ours sends red items to the hearing as open questions; official says pros and cons are developed after the hearings; check the recording.
recording The clerk will go through the document and change day references to calendar days, marking them brown, with exceptions.
town’s minutes “steve to modify document to put definition in section 1 and edit instances of days throughout.”
Ours assigns this to the clerk (Erickson per the official minutes); official assigns it to Steve, the chair; check who was assigned.
In one record only: 1 from the recording, 7 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Posting proposed changes online: Proposed changes will be posted online before and after the public hearing, subject to legal review. ▶ 2:12:57
- Town’s minutes only — Vote on 3-10(c) wording: “mark seconded. discussion: tanner raised concern about 15 days to reject an appointment; however, this is not marked as a change; vote unanimous (8-0).”
- Town’s minutes only — Vote on section 3-13(c): “jim moved to approve, jamie seconded; vote unanimous (8-0).”
- Town’s minutes only — Table minimum vote language: “we agreed to table this item until the next agenda item.”
- Town’s minutes only — Section 2-4 vote postponed: “section 2-4: brown but needs input from town counsel; vote postponed.”
- Town’s minutes only — Public comment: “dave passios: park commissioners section3-9; mgl 45-2 allows for 3 or 5 members; he proposes we use the same language for our charter.”
- Town’s minutes only — Hearing logistics and assignments: “steve to send agenda to ellen griffin and kathy herrick; public hearing notice to ledger and facebook via heather lemieux”
- Town’s minutes only — Attendance: “present: jaime toale (selectmen), terri burchfield (finance committee), mark erickson (finance committee)”
Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
Nothing touching money was heard beyond the transfers.
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 44:09The clerk will go through the document and change day references to calendar days, marking them brown, with exceptions.
- ▶ 1:53:03Red items will not be voted on tonight and will go to the public hearing as open questions.
- ▶ 2:00:24Public hearing set for January 9 at Town Hall.
- ▶ 2:07:18Second public hearing set for February 27; meeting on March 13.
- ▶ 2:12:57Proposed changes will be posted online before and after the public hearing, subject to legal review.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.
Named in the running text, not in a list:
- Draft charter, as of November 13
- Town Counsel feedback (copy of what was sent to Bob)
Heard in the recording
- ▶ 14:33memo from town councilmemo, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Town Counsel feedback (copy of what was sent to Bob)”)
- ▶ 12:42October 24th minutesprior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 32:10draft charter as of November 13draft policy or bylaw, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Draft charter, as of November 13”)
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Public comment
- ▶ 0:51Asked the committee to consider wording so the Park Commission could be three or five members, matching state law chapter 45. — Dave Bastille, as heard, resident
- ▶ 3:23Objected to requiring registered voters for appointments to committees and urged language allowing any resident to serve. — Darren, as heard
- ▶ 1:03:30Said requiring registered voters could exclude potential members, even from this committee. — Darren, as heard
- ▶ 1:04:37Asked whether resident of Lunenburg was in the eligibility wording for appointees. — Dave Bastille, as heard
- ▶ 2:14:26Suggested reviewing all appointed boards, including this committee, for registered-voter standards, and noted resident could include high school students. — Katie Adams, as heard
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- policy95 min · 69%
- public comment44 min · 32%
- personnel35 min · 25%
- elections22 min · 16%
- town meeting20 min · 14%
- legal15 min · 11%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:11Welcome of new membersinformational · 0:40 long
- ▶ 0:51Public comment: park commission and registered voter wordinginformational · 7:49 long · public comment, policy
- ▶ 8:45Election of officersvoted · 3:55 long · policy
- ▶ 12:42Approval of minutesvoted · 1:48 long
- ▶ 14:33Town counsel feedback and write-in vote thresholdno resolution · 15:27 long · elections, legal
- ▶ 30:00Supermajority, purple changes and definition of dayvoted · 18:20 long · policy
- ▶ 48:20Registered voters for appointmentsvoted · 30:00 long · policy, public comment
- ▶ 1:18:20Brown sections: planning, town manager, vacancies, compliancevoted · 34:40 long · policy, personnel
- ▶ 1:53:03Red items and pro/con statementsreferred · 6:57 long · elections, town meeting
- ▶ 2:00:24Public hearing and schedule planningdates set · 12:33 long · town meeting
- ▶ 2:12:57Public comment and posting changes onlineagreed · 5:43 long · public comment
What the captions could not carry
- Votes for chair, clerk and vice chair nominees: names and counts not clear.
- Several brown votes had no audible count.
- Stretch near 6588-6655 was garbled.
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