What was said

Conservation Commission, September 20, 2017

the recording · 2:11 long, about 17,518 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 3:30The Conservation Commission voted to accept a donation from a PJ Keating settlement, pending ratification by the Board of Selectmen.
  2. ▶ 3:51The donation goes to the town administrator and Selectmen the following Tuesday, because a response is due by September 30th.
  3. ▶ 1:58:33The Commission approved the timber sale prospectus and the forest cutting plan amendment.
  4. ▶ 16:08It approved an amendment to an existing order of conditions for a beach at 667 Reservoir Road, and issued negative determinations for 238 Harbor Road and a tree house.
  5. ▶ 49:33Requests at 48 Oak Ridge Road and 994 Northfield Road (a solar field) were continued to October 4th, and a 53 Pearl Street request was withdrawn.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The donation gives the Commission money for conservation land without a direct draw on the tax bill, but it takes effect only if the Selectmen ratify it.
  • Ideas floated for its use, including an ATV for police patrols of conservation land, would be settled at a later meeting.

Watch next

  • Selectmen ratification of the donation, with a response due by September 30th.
  • The October 4th Commission meeting: project ideas for the donation, and the continued Oak Ridge Road and Northfield Road hearings.

grantslegalpersonnelplanning and zoningpublic commentpublic safety

Present: Chairman (chair); Matt (conservation agent); Carl (member); Heather (staff). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 3:30Accept the gift from PJ Keating pending ratification by the Board of Selectmen.passed
  2. ▶ 16:08Approve amendment to existing order of conditions for a 1000 square foot, eight inch deep beach at 667 Reservoir Road.passed
  3. ▶ 33:39Negative determination for 238 Harbor Road with conditions on slope, one platform and vegetation.passed
  4. ▶ 42:28Negative determination for the tree house.passed
  5. ▶ 49:33Continue 48 Oak Ridge Road to October 4th.passed
  6. ▶ 59:10Continue 994 Northfield Road to October 4th.passed
  7. ▶ 1:58:33Approve the timber sale prospectus.passed
  8. ▶ 1:58:33Approve the forest cutting plan amendment.passed

And 2 procedural: approve minutes of july 5th, july 19th, august 16th, august 30th and september 6th as amended. (▶ 1:38:22); adjourn. (▶ 2:11:19).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 5 agree, 1 caption error resolved by the official reading, 4 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differs667 Reservoir Road amendment vote outcome

    recording Approve amendment to existing order of conditions for a 1000 square foot, eight inch deep beach at 667 Reservoir Road. — passed

    town’s minutes “kj moved to approve the amendment request with 1000 square feet in dimension, 8 inches deep as described in the application.”

    Official minutes record a motion but no second or outcome; check the recording/vote record to confirm it passed.

  2. differs238 Harbor Road negative determination conditions

    recording Negative determination for 238 Harbor Road with conditions on slope, one platform and vegetation. — passed

    town’s minutes “motion for a negative determination by bp with a note that the slope is 45 degrees, there is only one platform. cl seconded”

    Official has a note on slope and platform only, not a vegetation condition; check whether vegetation was part of the motion.

  3. differs70 Oak Ridge Road enforcement order

    recording The chair and agent to have the 70 Oak Ridge Road owner put forth a plan addressing equipment storage and remediation.

    town’s minutes “the commission voted to issue an updated enforcement order requiring a landscape plan and a revised grading plan.”

    Ours describes an informal request for a plan on equipment storage/remediation with no vote; official records a vote to issue an updated enforcement order. Check the recording.

  4. differsTimber sale prospectus and forest cutting plan amendment votes

    recording Approve the timber sale prospectus. — passed; Approve the forest cutting plan amendment. — passed

    town’s minutes —

    Two votes in our minutes are absent from the official minutes; check the recording and whether the official record omitted them.

1 caption error the town’s minutes resolve
  • Attendee: Matt, conservation agent:Matt (conservation agent)→Matthew S. Marro
In one record only: 5 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Continue 48 Oak Ridge Road to October 4th: Continue 48 Oak Ridge Road to October 4th. — passed
  • Recording only — Continue 994 Northfield Road to October 4th: Continue 994 Northfield Road to October 4th. — passed
  • Recording only — 53 Pearl Street withdrawn without prejudice: Fifty-three Pearl Street request withdrawn without prejudice; applicant to resubmit with a garage plan.
  • Recording only — Donation to Selectmen next Tuesday: Donation to go to the town administrator and Selectmen next Tuesday to meet the deadline.
  • Recording only — Signs cost: Signs: about 30 bucks
  • Town’s minutes only — 183 Hemlock Dr remediation: “mm will schedule site inspections with the applicant to work out a scenario with the applicant to remediate the bank.”
  • Town’s minutes only — 571 Chase Road with DPW: “mm will work with dpw to evaluate the area to find remediation's.”
  • Town’s minutes only — 250 Howard Street: “no further action required at this time”
  • Town’s minutes only — Other attendees and absence of Todd Dwyer: “with all members present except mr. dwyer”

Compared 2026-11-06. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:09PJ Keating donation

    Keating offered to donate to the Commission in lieu of a supplemental environmental project; Selectmen must ratify and a response is needed by September 30th.

    as heard:twenty two thousand dollars

  2. ▶ 2:01:53Use of donation for police ATV

    A member suggested the donation go toward an ATV for police to patrol conservation land; the chair wanted project ideas at the next meeting.

  3. ▶ 2:04:59Signs

    A member said metal signs can be made cheaply.

    as heard:about 30 bucks

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 3:51Donation to go to the town administrator and Selectmen next Tuesday to meet the deadline.
  • ▶ 48:51Fifty-three Pearl Street request withdrawn without prejudice; applicant to resubmit with a garage plan.
  • ▶ 1:12:37The chair and agent to have the 70 Oak Ridge Road owner put forth a plan addressing equipment storage and remediation.
  • ▶ 2:02:34Project ideas for the donation to be discussed at the October 4th meeting.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed documents presented for review was the request for amendment and an amended plan:

  • Request for amendment and amended plan by applicant, dated August 2017
  • Request for a determination and modified scope plan by the applicant (238 Townsend Harbor Road)
  • Request for a determination application and modified scaled plan by the applicant (393 Arbor Street)

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Submission packet containing pictures and illustrations of proposed work (238 Townsend Harbor Road)
  • Application and supporting documents for hearings
  • Comments from the engineer and DEP (994 Northfield Road)
  • Notice of non compliance (250 Howard Street)
  • Letters regarding North Leominster Rod and Gun Club
  • Updated enforcement order (70 Oak Ridge Road)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 6:58plansplan or drawing, shown· in the minutes’ list (“Request for amendment and amended plan by applicant, dated August 2017”)
  • ▶ 1:37:40minutesprior minutes, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:58:33timber sale prospectuscontract or agreement, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Request for a determination and modified scope plan by the applicant (238 Townsend Harbor Road); Request for a determination application and modified scaled plan by the applicant (393 Arbor Street).

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 0:47Offered a donation to the Commission from a supplemental environmental project settlement. — Kendra Shea Nawrocki, as heard, Environmental Health and Safety Manager, PJ Keating
  2. ▶ 4:32Asked the Commission to follow up on getting an educational do's and don'ts summary out to lake and league users.
  3. ▶ 2:00:46Reported signs of ATV use on the Lane property and asked about involving police.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:03PJ Keating donationvoted · 4:08 long · grants
  2. ▶ 4:11Public education handout for lake usersreferred · 1:44 long · public comment
  3. ▶ 6:35667 Reservoir Road beach amendmentvoted · 10:13 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 17:09238 Harbor Road shoreline workvoted · 19:00 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 36:09Tree house requestvoted · 6:40 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 43:3053 Pearl Street shed, 48 Oak Ridge continuationwithdrawn and continued · 6:53 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 50:23994 Northfield Road solar fieldcontinued · 9:10 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 59:33Enforcement itemsinformational · 24:40 long · legal, planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:24:13New member recruitsinformational · 12:27 long · personnel
  10. ▶ 1:38:02Minutesvoted · 1:52 long
  11. ▶ 1:39:54Committee reports and timber salevoted · 20:52 long · legal, planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 2:00:46Final comments and donation usesinformational · 10:33 long · public comment, grants

What the captions could not carry

  • Adjournment vote result not stated.
  • Several votes were by voice with no count.

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