What was said

Conservation Commission, April 18, 2018

the recording · 2:32 long, about 20,318 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:04:50The Commission issued a positive determination for the 46 Fire Road addition, which requires a full notice of intent to go forward.
  2. ▶ 1:29:12An enforcement order was voted for unpermitted clearing at a pond lot; the owner is to cover bare soil with hay within seven days.
  3. ▶ 40:42Applicants at 307 Townsend Harbor Road were told fines will be issued if no viable application is presented; the hearing was continued to May 2nd.
  4. ▶ 2:03:40The Commission approved 63 Prospect Street with the limit of work set at the 50-foot no structure zone, and approved the notice of intent at 654 Mass Ave.
  5. ▶ 2:29:41A Saturday regulation review meeting was set for June 16th, 8 to noon.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Wetlands rulings decide what neighbors and owners may build or clear near ponds and buffer zones, and unpermitted work can bring fines and orders to restore the ground.
  • The June regulation review could change the local wetlands rules that apply to future projects in town.

Watch next

  • May 2nd: continued hearings resume, including 307 Townsend Harbor Road, Hickory Hills and 54 Maple Parkway.
  • June 16th, 8 to noon: Saturday regulation review meeting.

grantslegalplanning and zoningtown departments

Present: Richard birch (member); Todd (member); Mr. Pease (member); Mr. Luck (member); Mr. Doyle (member); Matt (conservation agent); Xavier (presenter). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 37:50Negative determination for 914 Flat Hill Roadnot audible
  2. ▶ 40:30Notify the 307 Townsend Harbor Road applicants that fines will be issued if no viable application is presentednot audible
  3. ▶ 40:50Continue 307 Townsend Harbor Road to May 2ndnot audible
  4. ▶ 46:40Approve the Notice of Intent at 654 Mass Avenot audible
  5. ▶ 1:04:50Positive determination for 46 Fire Road 12not audible
  6. ▶ 1:30:50Issue an enforcement order for the pond lotnot audible
  7. ▶ 2:03:40Approve 63 Prospect Street with limit of work at the 50-foot no structure zonenot audible

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 2:32:00).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 5 agree, 5 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 7 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differs307 Townsend Harbor Road continuance▶ 40:50

    recording Continue 307 Townsend Harbor Road to May 2nd — not audible

    town’s minutes “approved with a motion by pb and a second by cc.”

    Both record a continuance, but official frames it as 'one more continuance allowed' and gives the date only in the fines sentence; check the recording to confirm the vote and date.

  2. differsVote to notify applicants of fines (307 Townsend Harbor Rd)▶ 40:30

    recording Notify the 307 Townsend Harbor Road applicants that fines will be issued if no viable application is presented — not audible

    town’s minutes “if they do not show up with a viable plan at the may 2, 2018 meeting fines will commence”

    Ours records a separate vote; official records no vote on the fines notice, only a statement. Check the recording.

  3. differs654 Mass Ave (Signature Living LLC)▶ 46:40

    recording Approve the Notice of Intent at 654 Mass Ave — not audible

    town’s minutes “kj moved to approved the order of conditions. cc seconded ant the commission voted unanimously.”

    Ours says approve the Notice of Intent; official says approve the order of conditions. Likely the same action, but check wording.

  4. differsFines at 654 Mass Ave $1,200▶ 43:14

    recording Fines at 654 Mass Ave: $1,200

    town’s minutes —

    Official minutes state no fine amount for 654 Mass Ave; the only fines mentioned are for 307 Townsend Harbor Road with no amount. Check the recording for which property and amount.

  5. differsEnforcement order for the pond lot▶ 1:30:50

    recording Issue an enforcement order for the pond lot — not audible

    town’s minutes —

    Official minutes record no enforcement order vote or pond lot item; check which agenda item this was (possibly 571 Chase Road or Shady Point) and whether a vote occurred.

  6. differsState grant for Mulpus outflow treatment, $160,000▶ 3:48

    recording State grant for Mulpus outflow treatment: a hundred and sixty thousand dollars

    town’s minutes “the 319 grant being pursued by the storm water committee”

    Official mentions a 319 grant being pursued with no amount; check whether this is the same grant and the amount.

  7. differsMember Doyle

    recording Mr. Doyle (member)

    town’s minutes “call to order- all members were in attendance.”

    No Doyle in official roster, which lists Childs, Rabbitt, Jones instead; check whether captions misheard a name.

5 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Chair Richard Bursch:Richard birch (member)→Richard Bursch
  • Member Todd Dwyer:Todd (member)→Todd Dwyer
  • Member Pease:Mr. Pease (member)→Bob Pease
  • Conservation agent:Matt (conservation agent)→Matthew S. Marro
  • Presenter on emerald ash borer:Xavier (presenter)→Javier Marin
In one record only: 3 from the recording, 7 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Saturday regulation review meeting: Saturday regulation review meeting set for June 16th, 8 to noon. ▶ 2:29:41
  • Recording only — Drone use on future agenda: Drone use to be put on a future agenda only if a member submits a specific project to the agent. ▶ 2:25:47
  • Recording only — Enforcement order conditions (hay within seven days): Enforcement order to be issued for the pond lot; the owner is to cover the bare soil with hay within seven days and may get an emergency permit for a tight tank. ▶ 1:29:12
  • Town’s minutes only — Hickory Hills continuance to May 2: “this was continued to the may 2, 2018 meeting at 960 mass ave at 7 pm by a motion of kj and a second from bp.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Dippin Donuts continuance vote: “bp moved to continue to the may 2, 2018 meeting at 90 mass ave at 7 pm. cc seconded and the commission approved unanimously.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Tully 54 Maple Parkway continuance vote: “kj moved to continue to the 2 nd of may per mm's recommendation. cc seconded and the commission approved the motion unanimously.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Ialeggio withdrawal at 564 Page Street: “they recommended that the applicant withdraw the file and have his engineer file a notice of intent for the work proposed and remediation.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Land Exchange site inspection: “a site inspection is scheduled to do a site inspection the day following the meeting at 12:30 pm at the land use office.”
  • Town’s minutes only — 571 Chase Road violation: “571 chase road (c) -no updates : to remain on agenda until restoration is completed (grown in)”
  • Town’s minutes only — Other members present: “call to order- all members were in attendance.”

Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 3:48State grant for Mulpus outflow treatment

    A member said the stormwater group is seeking a state grant for work on outflows to the upper lake and wants a letter of support.

    as heard:a hundred and sixty thousand dollars

  2. ▶ 43:14Fines at 654 Mass Ave

    The chair said fines for work done in the buffer zone were in the mail.

    as heard:$1,200

  3. ▶ 21:11DCR urban forest challenge grant

    The presenter described a matching grant for tree inventory.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 40:42Applicants at 307 Townsend Harbor Road told fines will be issued if no viable application is presented at the next hearing.
  • ▶ 1:29:12Enforcement order to be issued for the pond lot; the owner is to cover the bare soil with hay within seven days and may get an emergency permit for a tight tank.
  • ▶ 2:29:41Saturday regulation review meeting set for June 16th, 8 to noon.
  • ▶ 2:25:47Drone use to be put on a future agenda only if a member submits a specific project to the agent.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed documents presented for consideration was a request for a determination form an d a modified sketch by applicant dated april 17, 2018:

  • Request for a Determination form and modified sketch by applicant dated April 17, 2018
  • Notice of Intent and a plan of land by Ducharme and Dillis dated April 12, 2018
  • Request for a Determination form and modified plan by the applicant dated March 2018
  • Request for a Determination form with a hand sketch by the applicant dated March 2018
  • Notice of Intent by Kenneth Tully and a plan of land by Ducharme and Dillis
  • Notice of Intent by Matson Homes and a Notice of Intent plan by Whitman and Bingham Associates

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Emerald ash borer slideshow (USDA presentation)
  • Enforcement order (307 Townsend Harbor road, Dixon)
  • Notice of Intent for drawdown management plan at Hickory Hills Lake (Hickory Hills Association)
  • Order of conditions, Signature Living LLC (654 Mass Ave)
  • Order of conditions, Matson Homes (63 Prospect Street)
  • Hickory Hills information for suction harvesting
  • Land Exchange on Gilchrest
  • Minutes of 3/21 and 4/6

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 32:08plan with more detailplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 52:17ten scale planplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:15:37March 21st minutesprior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Request for a Determination form and modified sketch by applicant dated April 17, 2018; Notice of Intent and a plan of land by Ducharme and Dillis dated April 12, 2018; Request for a Determination form and modified plan by the applicant dated March 2018; Request for a Determination form with a hand sketch by the applicant dated March 2018; Notice of Intent by Kenneth Tully and a plan of land by Ducharme and Dillis; Notice of Intent by Matson Homes and a Notice of Intent plan by Whitman and Bingham Associates.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:20Announcements: Earth Day, grant letter, trail mapinformational · 5:09 long · grants
  2. ▶ 5:29Emerald ash borer presentationinformational · 25:31 long · town departments
  3. ▶ 31:25914 Flat Hill Road patiovoted · 7:05 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 38:37307 Townsend Harbor Road enforcementcontinued to May 2nd · 2:43 long · planning and zoning, legal
  5. ▶ 41:24654 Mass Ave three-familyvoted · 5:46 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 47:10Hickory Hills drawdowncontinued to May 2nd · 0:55 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 48:0546 Fire Road additionpositive determination · 21:05 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:09:10455 Mass Ave freezer additioncontinued · 4:50 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:14:00Pond lot clearing and septicenforcement order, continued · 18:40 long · planning and zoning, legal
  10. ▶ 1:33:2254 Maple Parkwaycontinued to May 2nd · 10:33 long · planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 1:44:1663 Prospect Streetvoted · 19:44 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 2:04:28Current business, small town forest, minutes, legalinformational · 18:32 long · planning and zoning, legal
  13. ▶ 2:23:00Drones and regulation review schedulingdate set · 9:12 long · planning and zoning

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote counts and movers were not captured for any motion.
  • Roll call names garbled.
  • Address of the pond lot garbled.

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