What was said

Conservation Commission, February 20, 2019

the recording · 3:07 long, about 23,547 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:08:20A motion to approve the amended notice of intent for 380/390/400 Electric Ave, with erosion protection kept until the gas station is complete, was made; the outcome is not audible.
  2. ▶ 1:43:41A motion to add a flat technology surcharge to wetland permit fees for online applications was made; the outcome is not audible in the recording.
  3. ▶ 40:24Hearings on the 5 Electric Ave addition, the 190 Electric Ave solar project, the Bell retaining wall and 400 Electric Ave were each continued to March 6.
  4. ▶ 2:44:09Review of the Lake Shirley order of conditions ended without resolution; edits will be sent out, with a pretreatment report deadline and written notice to the town manager.
  5. ▶ 3:03:06The commission heard a proposal to acquire the Saliba land and will follow up with open space contacts, with appraisals and Town Meeting funding as next steps.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The Electric Ave approval and the continued hearings shape what gets built near wetlands on that corridor, and the recording does not make clear that the approval passed.
  • A technology surcharge would add a separate line to permit costs for anyone filing online, and the Saliba land purchase would likely need Town Meeting funding, which residents would be asked to vote on.

Watch next

  • The March 6 meeting, when the continued Electric Ave, solar and Bell retaining wall hearings return.
  • Appraisals and any Town Meeting funding article for the Saliba land.

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Present: mr. chairman (chair); Matt (conservation agent/administrator); Carl (member); mr. Sherman (member); mr. Dwyer (member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 1:22Continue the 205 Sunset Lane hearing to March 6 at the applicant's requestnot audible
  2. ▶ 16:43Continue the 5 Electric Ave hearing to March 6not audible
  3. ▶ 40:24Continue the 190 Electric Ave solar hearing to March 6not audible
  4. ▶ 41:05Continue the Bell retaining wall hearing to March 6not audible
  5. ▶ 1:08:20Approve the amended Notice of Intent for 380/390/400 Electric Ave, with erosion protection staying in place until the gas station is completenot audible
  6. ▶ 1:10:50Continue the 400 Electric Ave hearing to March 6not audible
  7. ▶ 1:43:41Add a 5% technology fee to the wetland fees and regulationsnot audible

And 2 procedural: approve the january 16 minutes as amended (▶ 2:52:23); close the meeting (▶ 3:06:59).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 9 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsWetland fee vote: 5% technology fee vs. 5% fee for online files▶ 1:43:41

    recording Add a 5% technology fee to the wetland fees and regulations — not audible

    town’s minutes “the concept for the language was approved by a motion of cl and a second by cc with a unanimous vote to approve.”

    Ours records adding the fee; official records only approval of the concept of the language, for online files. Check whether the fee was adopted or only the concept approved, and its scope.

  2. differsViolation tickets: 25 tickets, $100▶ 1:44:44

    recording Violation tickets: 25, $100

    town’s minutes “mm noted fines continue to accumulate.”

    Official mentions 25 tickets (magistrate hearing) but prints no dollar amount; check the $100 figure against the recording.

  3. differsAttendees

    recording mr. chairman (chair); Matt (conservation agent/administrator); Carl (member); mr. Sherman (member); mr. Dwyer (member)

    town’s minutes “chairman bursch opened the meeting with all in attendance except kj.”

    Ours lists a 'Sherman' who is not in the official roster (Bursch, Dwyer, Pease, Childs, Luck, Rabbitt; Jones absent). Check the name; Carl matches Carl Luck, Matt matches Marro, Dwyer matches Todd Dwyer.

In one record only: 3 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Land acquisition cost 800,000: Land acquisition cost: 800,000 ▶ 1:30:09
  • Recording only — Solar applicant revised plan, DEP number, peer review: The solar applicant will submit a revised plan with seed mix, treeline adjustments, a schedule and replication details, and the commission awaits a DEP number and the peer review report. ▶ 36:25
  • Recording only — Lake Shirley order-of-conditions edits: Lake Shirley order-of-conditions edits will be sent to Matt, with a 14-day pretreatment report deadline, five clarity locations and written notice to the town manager. ▶ 2:44:09
  • Town’s minutes only — Shady Point berm instruction: “instructed the owner to expand as soon as weather started to b reak further into spring conditions.”
  • Town’s minutes only — ADA grant update: “ada grant update mm reported that the grant is in effect and that the small town forest completion was the first step.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Prior minutes reviewed, no action: “minutes of previous meetings - review and approval of january 16, 2019 & february 6- no action taken”

Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:40:12Wetland permit technology fee

    The commission agreed to add a flat technology surcharge on all permit fees for online applications. It would be a separate line so it can be adjusted without changing every fee.

    as heard:5%five percent

  2. ▶ 1:44:44Violation tickets

    A first batch of tickets for a violation was issued, and the fines go into the general fund, not a revolving account.

    as heard:25$100

  3. ▶ 1:30:09Land acquisition cost

    A speaker mentioned a rough value for the Saliba land, and appraisals, grants and Town Meeting matching funds were discussed.

    as heard:800,000

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 15:38The 5 Electric Ave applicant will submit an updated plan moving the dumpster pad to the parking lot corner, relocating the cooler out of the 30-foot no-disturbance zone, and showing all equipment.
  • ▶ 36:25The solar applicant will submit a revised plan with seed mix, treeline adjustments, a schedule and replication details, and the commission awaits a DEP number and the peer review report.
  • ▶ 2:44:09Lake Shirley order-of-conditions edits will be sent to Matt, with a 14-day pretreatment report deadline, five clarity locations and written notice to the town manager.
  • ▶ 3:03:06The commission will follow up on the Saliba land with open space contacts, with appraisals and Town Meeting funding as next steps.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed documents considered by the commission was:

  • Request for an amendment narrative and supplemental plans with a final revision date of February 20, 2019 (Proctor amendment)

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • O&M plans (updated for adjacent proposed development at 400 Electric)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 43:20letter dated February 13thletter or email, shown· in the minutes’ list (“Request for an amendment narrative and supplemental plans with a final revision date of February 20, 2019 (Proctor amendment)”)
  • ▶ 45:53three exhibit plansplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 32:37A resident spoke in support of the 190 Electric Avenue solar project and urged heavy replanting to restore the previously logged land.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00205 Sunset Lane hearingcontinued to March 6 · 1:43 long · planning and zoning
  2. ▶ 1:435 Electric Ave addition hearingcontinued to March 6 · 15:22 long · planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 17:05190 Electric Ave solar hearingcontinued to March 6 · 24:00 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  4. ▶ 41:05Bell retaining wall hearingcontinued to March 6 · 1:04 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 42:09380/390/400 Electric Ave amended notice of intentmotion to approve made; outcome not audible · 26:52 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 1:09:23400 Electric Ave hearingcontinued to March 6 · 2:08 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 1:11:31Saliba land acquisition proposalinformational · 27:57 long · planning and zoning, budget
  8. ▶ 1:39:285% technology feemotion made; outcome not audible · 4:56 long · fees
  9. ▶ 1:44:24Enforcement and violationsinformational · 7:27 long · legal
  10. ▶ 1:51:51Lake Shirley order of conditions reviewno resolution; edits to be sent · 55:37 long · planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 2:47:28Small town forest and invasivesinformational · 4:55 long
  12. ▶ 2:52:23Minutes approvalmotion made · 4:23 long
  13. ▶ 2:56:46Updates and open spaceinformational · 10:34 long · planning and zoning

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote results are not stated in the captions; only motions and calls for 'aye' appear.
  • The captions are garbled in places, so some speakers are unidentified.
  • The outcome of the February 6 minutes is unclear.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 1:11:31Saliba land purchase costWhat would it cost the town to buy the Saliba land, and what grants could help?

These are ours, and they are not the record

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What changed

Version 15 — updated September 20, 2026