What was said

Conservation Commission, April 17, 2019

the recording · 3:17 long, about 23,071 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 50:32The commission approved the Forest Stewardship bird-habitat plan for the Hollows Grove Conservation Area.
  2. ▶ 2:57:52It approved an updated order of conditions for Lake Shirley after a dispute over whether the commission may amend the order and its extension.
  3. ▶ 12:35It issued a negative determination for the generator and trench at 30 and 50 Sunset Lane.
  4. ▶ 1:18:02On the riverfront restoration plan it set boulder, tree and June 15 completion conditions, with no final resolution on the 131 and 133 Shirley Road matter.
  5. ▶ 13:46The 179 Island Road hearing was continued to May 1, and 63 Prospect Street enforcement continues pending an owner plan.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The Lake Shirley order sets the conditions that govern work around the lake, and the dispute over amending it bears on how far the commission's conditions can reach.
  • The restoration conditions and enforcement actions show what the commission can require of waterfront owners who disturb protected buffer areas, including planting and the cost of it.

Watch next

  • May 1 meeting: 179 Island Road hearing resumes, and the 63 Prospect Street owner's plan is due before it.
  • July 18: planned hearing on the notice of intent for 131/133.

grantslegalplanning and zoningpolicy

Present: Richard burisch (member); Todd Dwyer (member); Kendra (member); Carl (member); Matt (conservation agent); Gary bulge up of New England forestry (presenter); Jeff Ritter s'en from the Mass Audubon (presenter). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 4:32Continue the 179 Island Road notice of intent hearingpassed
  2. ▶ 12:35Negative determination for the generator and trench at 30 and 50 Sunset Lanepassed
  3. ▶ 13:25Continue the 33 Birch Island Way dock request until later in the meetingpassed
  4. ▶ 13:46Continue 179 Island Road to May 1stpassed
  5. ▶ 50:32Approve the Forest Stewardship plan for the Hollows Grove Conservation Areapassed
  6. ▶ 2:57:52Approve the updated order of conditions for Lake Shirleypassed

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of march 20th (▶ 3:14:03); adjourn (▶ 3:16:34).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 2 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsLake Shirley / LSIC amended order of conditions▶ 2:57:52

    recording Approve the updated order of conditions for Lake Shirley — passed

    town’s minutes “a motion to approve the amended order was made by cl, seconded by kj and unanimously approved.”

    Likely the same vote (LSIC amended order), but wording differs (updated vs amended); a person should confirm it is the same item.

  2. differsCommission member as designee/helper▶ 3:00:21

    recording The commission will tell the selectmen that its member is its designee on the land acquisition group.

    town’s minutes “cc offered to help develop the process and information which was gratefully accepted.”

    Both involve a member (CC) taking a role, but the roles differ (land acquisition designee vs new homeowner notification policy); check the actual minutes.

  3. differsMembers and agent attendance

    recording Kendra (member); Carl (member); Matt (conservation agent)

    town’s minutes “kenneth jones conservation administrator”

    Official lists Bob Pease, Catie Childs, Carl Luck, Jack Rabbitt, and administrator Kenneth Jones; 'Kendra' and 'Matt' don't clearly match; check the roster.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Forest Stewardship plan approval (location name):Approve the Forest Stewardship plan for the Hollows Grove Conservation Area — passed→123 Hollis Road Conservation Area▶ 50:32
  • Attendee: Richard Bursch:Richard burisch (member)→Richard Bursch▶ 0:00
  • Presenter Gary Gouldrup:Gary bulge up of New England forestry (presenter)→Gary Gouldrup
  • Presenter Jeff Ritterson:Jeff Ritter s'en from the Mass Audubon (presenter)→Jeff Ritterson
In one record only: 5 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Continuation of 179 Island Road hearing to May 1st: Continue 179 Island Road to May 1st — passed ▶ 13:46
  • Recording only — Continuation of 33 Birch Island Way dock request: Continue the 33 Birch Island Way dock request until later in the meeting — passed ▶ 13:25
  • Recording only — Restoration plan conditions (boulders, trees, June 15): Restoration plan to include 2 by 3 foot boulders every 20 feet along the back lots, deciduous trees every 10 feet on property lines, and a June 15 completion date. ▶ 1:18:02
  • Recording only — Fines and restoration figures ($300, $4,000, $12,000): Fines on 101 Pleasant enforcement: $300; replanting trees $4,000; neighbor restoration spending $12,000 ▶ 1:00:55
  • Recording only — 131/133 hearing planned for July 18; 63 Prospect St continued to May 1: Hearing on the notice of intent for 131/133 property planned for the first July meeting (the 18th). ▶ 2:34:01
  • Town’s minutes only — LSIC withdrew extension request: “the lsic president withdrew the previous request for an extension permit from june 6 to september 30, 2019.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Stewardship plan described as 10 year plan: “it was outlined to the public by the commission that the plan is a 10 year plan and at this point no plans for implementation have been made”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public commenters: “joanna billotta 362 sunset lane inquired if pumps can be added to the generator”

Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 52:18Forest Stewardship plan funding

    The plan is paid for by the state stewardship program, with the extra Mass Audubon cost also covered. The plan must be signed so the grant money can pay the foresters.

  2. ▶ 1:00:55Fines on 101 Pleasant enforcement

    The owner is fined daily for failing to supply a bond, at the maximum daily rate.

    as heard:$300

  3. ▶ 1:34:12Cost of replanting trees in restoration area

    A homeowner said moving or replacing mature trees would cost thousands.

    as heard:$4,000

  4. ▶ 2:01:50Neighbor restoration spending

    A lot owner said he had already spent on restoration.

    as heard:$12,000

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:18:02Restoration plan to include 2 by 3 foot boulders every 20 feet along the back lots, deciduous trees every 10 feet on property lines, and a June 15 completion date.
  • ▶ 2:34:01Hearing on the notice of intent for 131/133 property planned for the first July meeting (the 18th).
  • ▶ 56:2063 Prospect Street enforcement continues pending a plan from the owner before the May 1 meeting.
  • ▶ 3:00:21The commission will tell the selectmen that its member is its designee on the land acquisition group.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed documents presented for consideration was:

  • Request for a Determination from and a Sketch from the applicant dated April 2019

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Notice of Intent submitted by Joseph O’Brien for a single family home with garage, 179 Island Road
  • Request for a Determination by Carl Luck, 30 and 50 Sunset Lane
  • Request for a Determination by Melissa Ribaudo, 33 Birch Island Way
  • LSIC Draft Order of Conditions
  • Draft Stewardship Plan (Forest Stewardship/Bird Habitat planning, 123 Hollis Road Conservation Area)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 51:38Forest Stewardship planreport, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Draft Stewardship Plan (Forest Stewardship/Bird Habitat planning, 123 Hollis Road Conservation Area)”)
  • ▶ 1:24:1315-point restoration conditions listdraft policy or bylaw, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:36:14Lake Shirley updated order of conditionscontract or agreement, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“LSIC Draft Order of Conditions”)
  • ▶ 3:00:49Framingham notification documentother· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 3:14:03Minutes of March 20thprior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Request for a Determination from and a Sketch from the applicant dated April 2019.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 38:22Questions to the foresters on the Hollows Grove plan: winners and losers among birds, cavity trees, pollinators, and baseline bird surveys.
  2. ▶ 11:46Resident asked whether the whole-house generator at Sunset Lane powers everything in the house.
  3. ▶ 54:13Homeowner at 63 Prospect Street discussed tree removal and the 30-foot no-disturbance zone violation.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Roll call and commissioner comments on lakes and stormwater conferenceinformational · 4:12 long
  2. ▶ 4:12Hearings: 179 Island Road continuance, Sunset Lane generator, Birch Island Way dock continuancevoted · 10:14 long · planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 14:26Forest Stewardship bird habitat plan, Hollows Grovevoted · 38:54 long · grants, planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 53:20Enforcement: Townsend Harbor Road, Prospect Street, Crawford Street, Pleasant Streetinformational · 9:00 long · legal
  5. ▶ 1:02:20Enforcement: riverfront restoration plan, 131 and 133 Shirley Roadno resolution · 1:32:22 long · legal, planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 2:34:42Lake Shirley order of conditions and extension disputevoted · 25:18 long · legal
  7. ▶ 3:00:00Land acquisition designee; homeowner notification policy; contractor liabilityinformational · 13:20 long · policy
  8. ▶ 3:13:20Minutes, agent's report, Arrow Estates, adjournmentvoted · 3:34 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Names of several speakers and residents; captions garbled in the 131/133 Shirley Road discussion
  • Vote counts were not stated for any motion
  • Exact figures in the 131/133 Shirley Road restoration discussion are unreliable

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 2:59:38Lake management costsWho pays for Lake Shirley management and treatment now that the contractor has withdrawn?

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