What was said

Conservation Commission, May 15, 2019

the recording · 2:45 long, about 19,619 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:29:00The commission continued the after-the-fact farm field filing at 389 Pasty Street to June 5 after neighbors raised concerns about wells and lighting.
  2. ▶ 1:28:01The agent is to review the farm plan with the conservation service, add a well component and make a site visit before the June 5 return.
  3. ▶ 37:00A negative determination for the retaining wall at 251 Prospect Street passed, and the 205 Sunset Lane request was continued to June 19.
  4. ▶ 1:51:58The 14 Sunset Avenue notice of intent was continued, with updated drawings showing buffer-zone square footage due five days before the next hearing.
  5. ▶ 2:23:40A dispute over boulder markers at a subdivision was not resolved; the agent will research the original orders for whether boulders were required.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Neighbors of the 389 Pasty Street field raised well-water, runoff and driveway-damage concerns, and the continued hearing is where those questions can be weighed before any approval of the already-cleared land.
  • Land purchases without a budgeted line depend on trust-fund transfers and purchase orders, so such acquisitions can proceed outside the regular budget vote.

Watch next

  • June 5 continued hearing on the 389 Pasty Street agricultural conversion, with the agent's farm plan review and site visit.
  • June 19 continued request for determination at 205 Sunset Lane.

housinglegalplanning and zoningpublic comment

Present: Todd wire (member); our luck (member); Kitty child (member); Jackrabbit (member); Ken Jones (member); Richard Burch (member (absent, arriving late)); Matt (conservation agent); Mr. Christopher (presenter, representing applicant). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 25:20Approve the order of conditions for the single-family home at 179 with no disturbance within 30 feet and a maple added.not audible
  2. ▶ 26:38Continue the request for determination at 205 Sunset Lane to June 19.passed
  3. ▶ 34:50Negative determination for the deck rebuild at 15 (including lower deck decking).not audible
  4. ▶ 37:00Negative determination for the retaining wall at 251 Prospect Street.passed
  5. ▶ 44:59Negative determination for the deck at 16 Ruth Street with about six replacement trees planted.not audible
  6. ▶ 1:29:00Continue the 389 Pasty Street agricultural conversion notice of intent to June 5.not audible
  7. ▶ 1:49:46Continue the 14 Sunset Avenue notice of intent to June 15.not audible

And 1 procedural: adjourn. (▶ 2:44:46).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 7 agree, 7 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differs14 Sunset Ave notice of intent continuation date▶ 1:49:46

    recording Continue the 14 Sunset Avenue notice of intent to June 15. — not audible

    town’s minutes “cl moved to continue to june 5 at the ritter building at 7 pm. jr seconded and the commission voted unanimously.”

    Our record says June 15, the official says June 5. Check the recording at this point. June 5 is also the next meeting date, so captions may have misheard it.

  2. differs14 Sunset updated plan requirements▶ 1:51:58

    recording Applicant at 14 Sunset to submit updated drawings with buffer-zone square footage at least five days before the next hearing.

    town’s minutes “the commission requested that the retaining wall be added to the plan”

    Both ask for plan changes, but the official lists the retaining wall, quantified 30/50 foot alterations and a rain garden. Ours has the five-day deadline and square footage but not the retaining wall or rain garden. Check the recording.

  3. differsRichard Bursch attendance▶ 0:00

    recording Richard Burch (member (absent, arriving late))

    town’s minutes “all were present except rb, bp”

    Ours says he arrived late; the official lists him absent. Check whether he joined partway. Name spelled Bursch officially.

7 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • 389 Page Street continuation to June 5:Continue the 389 Pasty Street agricultural conversion notice of intent to June 5. — not audible→389 Page Street▶ 1:29:00
  • Attendee: Todd Dwyer:Todd wire (member)→Todd Dwyer
  • Attendee: Carl Luck:our luck (member)→Carl Luck
  • Attendee: Catie Childs:Kitty child (member)→Catie Childs
  • Attendee: Jack Rabbitt:Jackrabbit (member)→Jack Rabbitt
  • Conservation agent Matthew Marro:Matt (conservation agent)→Matthew S. Marro
  • Presenter Tom Christopher:Mr. Christopher (presenter, representing applicant)→Tom Christopher
In one record only: 4 from the recording, 5 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Farm plan review and well component at 389 Page Street: Agent to review the farm plan with the conservation service, add a well component, make a site visit, and return June 5.
  • Recording only — Replacement tree planting plan amended to about nineteen trees: Planting plan for the replacement trees amended to about nineteen trees, documented as a field change.
  • Recording only — Boulders research and split rail/granite post alternatives: Agent to research the original orders on whether boulders were required, and alternatives like split rail fencing or granite posts were floated.
  • Recording only — Well drilling quotes and porch/canopy roof bids: Well drilling quotes for the farm: half; Porch and canopy roof repair bids: three bids
  • Town’s minutes only — Enforcement order EO-63 Prospect St changes: “jr moved to approve the changes. cc seconded and the commission voted unanimously”
  • Town’s minutes only — Certificate of Compliance 336 Good Rich Street: “336 good rich street approved by a motion a cl and a second by cc.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Lake Management OOC extension on May 29: “to be taken may 29, 2019 at the ritter building at 7 pm”
  • Town’s minutes only — Bob Pease absence: “all were present except rb, bp”
  • Town’s minutes only — Applicants, abutters and public speakers: “mark raboin 395 page st- having lived next door his fear is how they would water it.”

Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:04:39Well drilling quotes for the farm

    The applicant's representative said a well quote had been obtained and suggested getting another, since others he had seen were about half as much.

    as heard:half

  2. ▶ 2:39:28Land acquisition appraisal and trust fund

    A member said trust funds can be used for the purchase but need purchase orders and transfers because there is no budgeted line.

  3. ▶ 2:40:30Porch and canopy roof repair bids

    One bid has been received for the porch repair and more are being sought.

    as heard:three bids

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:28:01Agent to review the farm plan with the conservation service, add a well component, make a site visit, and return June 5.
  • ▶ 1:51:58Applicant at 14 Sunset to submit updated drawings with buffer-zone square footage at least five days before the next hearing.
  • ▶ 2:02:41Planting plan for the replacement trees amended to about nineteen trees, documented as a field change.
  • ▶ 2:23:40Agent to research the original orders on whether boulders were required, and alternatives like split rail fencing or granite posts were floated.
  • ▶ 2:37:34Homeowner outreach pamphlet to be reviewed, with a final look by an outside reviewer, targeting the first June meeting.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed documents referenced are availible at the commission office., with nothing under it.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Notice of Intent, 179 Island Road (Joseph O’Brien), continued hearing
  • Request for determination of applicability, 205 Sunset Lane (James and Jackie Favreau)
  • Request for Determination, 15 Cliffview Terrace (Jon Hogue)
  • Request for determination of applicability, 251 Prospect Street (Dwight and Judith Davis)
  • Request for Determination, 16 Ruth St (Kenneth Kohlstrom)
  • Notice of Intent, 389 Page Street (James H White)
  • Notice of Intent, 14 Sunset Ave (John Harrison)
  • Standard Order of Conditions (OOC), 179 Island Road
  • Certificate of Compliance 208-0267, 336 Good Rich Street
  • New home owner notification pamphlet
  • Extension Permit, LSIC Lake Management OOC

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 5:30revised plansplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 47:43NRCS farmer home plan and appendixreport· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:36:51homeowner pamphlet and letterletter or email, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“New home owner notification pamphlet”)
  • ▶ 2:44:25minutes for May 1stprior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 1:00:16Abutter near 389 Pasty Street worried about water supply, night-time work, strobe lights and equipment damage from the farm field.
  2. ▶ 1:10:18Neighbor worried the clearing happened first, well going dry, soil, fertilizer runoff, lights and cracked driveway. — william tips, as heard, resident
  3. ▶ 1:18:31Neighbor on shared driveway concerned about damage to the driveway and wells going dry, asks about recourse.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:01Roll call, announcements, stormwater and invasive species training reportsinformational · 4:59 long · planning and zoning
  2. ▶ 5:00Hearing: new single-family home near 179, grading and treesvoted · 20:56 long · planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 25:56Continuance for 205 Sunset Lane dockvoted · 1:44 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 27:40Hearing: deck demolition and rebuild at 15voted · 7:30 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 35:10Hearing: retaining wall at 251 Prospect Streetvoted · 3:40 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 38:50Hearing: deck at 16 Ruth Streetvoted · 6:50 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 45:40Hearing: after-the-fact agricultural conversion at 389 Pasty Streetcontinued to June 5 · 43:30 long · planning and zoning, public comment, legal
  8. ▶ 1:29:31Hearing: reconstruction of home at 14 Sunset Avenuecontinued to June 15 · 23:49 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:53:20Enforcement updates and 63 Prospect Street tree replanting planplan amended · 21:40 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 2:15:00Boulder demarcation dispute at a subdivision restorationno resolution, research pending · 19:10 long · planning and zoning, legal
  11. ▶ 2:34:10Enforcement, homeowner pamphlet, land acquisition and grant updatesinformational · 9:53 long · grants, housing
  12. ▶ 2:44:03Minutes, agenda, adjournmentminutes deferred; adjourned · 1:24 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote results for most motions are not clearly in the captions
  • Street numbers for several addresses were garbled
  • Specific cost figures were not in the captions
  • Names of several speakers are unclear

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 45:40Conservation land encroachmentsHow often does clearing or building in wetland buffers happen without a filing, and how is it handled?

These are ours, and they are not the record

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