What was said

Conservation Commission, July 17, 2019

the recording · 3:46 long, about 27,197 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published an agenda for this meeting. No minutes have been published; the recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.

The short version

  1. ▶ 3:21:58The Commission left the revised Lake Shirley order of conditions in place and waived only its 14-day notice period.
  2. ▶ 3:22:21It approved the July 25 Lake Shirley treatment as submitted, with discretion to adjust areas in agreement with the agent.
  3. ▶ 55:16The Commission voted on each of four draft responses to Open Meeting Law complaints from the May 29 meeting; all passed.
  4. ▶ 29:37It approved a barn order of conditions, provisional approval of two culvert replacements, and negative determinations for a dock and a pool.
  5. ▶ 3:38:08It voted to hold public hearings in August and September on the revised regulations.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The Lake Shirley decision sets which treatment conditions apply to the lake this summer, and residents near the lake raised disputes over the order and over consultation.
  • The culvert work is tied to drainage money from the debt exclusion, so it touches property tax bills and road drainage, and the revised wetland regulations will affect what property owners can build near wetlands and buffers.

Watch next

  • Aug 7: the Notice of Intent for the two culvert replacements.
  • Public hearings in August and September on the revised regulations.

executive sessionlegalpolicypublic commenttown departmentswater sewer

Present: Richard Burch (chair, remote); Todd Dwyer (member); Katie Childs (member); Jackrabbit (member); Ken Jones (member); Carla Luck (member); Bob Peace (member); Adam Acosta (town counsel); Matt (conservation agent). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 14:02Standard order of conditions for Townsend Harbor Road barn with boulders 10 feet on center along the 30-foot bufferpassed
  2. ▶ 29:37Provisional approval of the two culvert replacements pending a Notice of Intent for Aug 7passed
  3. ▶ 38:43Negative 3 determination for the dock at 379 Townsend Harbor Roadpassed
  4. ▶ 42:53Negative 3 determination for the pool at 105 Reservoir Roadpassed
  5. ▶ 45:25Ratify the enforcement order for 127 Pleasant Streetpassed
  6. ▶ 55:16Accept the draft Open Meeting Law response to Marilyn Jewelpassed
  7. ▶ 1:10:28Approve the draft response to Johanna Velatapassed
  8. ▶ 1:13:56Accept the draft response to Cindy Li Jiepassed
  9. ▶ 1:24:49Accept the draft response to Ashley Braunpassed
  10. ▶ 3:21:58Waive the 14-day period in the order of conditionspassed
  11. ▶ 3:22:21Approve the July 25 treatment as submitted by Solitude, with discretion to adjust areas in agreement with the agentpassed
  12. ▶ 3:38:08Hold public hearings in August and September on the revised regulationspassed

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 3:46:32).

The money

  1. ▶ 16:39Debt exclusion drainage money for culverts

    Drainage money from the debt exclusion funds the Sunset Lane culvert replacement.

  2. ▶ 2:47:16Lake sampling for Dr. Wagner

    A speaker said the LSIC spends on extra sampling sent to Dr. Wagner.

    as heard:$800

  3. ▶ 3:40:44Small town forest and Hollis Road grants

    The state approved the forest work and grant money was paid out.

    as heard:20,000

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 34:59Agent to visit 331 Northfield Road the next day at 12:30 on site-walk request.
  • ▶ 3:11:34Commission agreed to leave the revised order in place and waive only the 14-day notice.
  • ▶ 3:20:49Agent to inspect treatment areas before the July 25 treatment.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The town has not published minutes for this meeting.

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 1:04Lunenburg stormwater management planreport
  • ▶ 46:31proposed Open Meeting Law responsesletter or email, shown
  • ▶ 1:57:222015 and 2019 special conditionscontract or agreement, shown

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 6:20Criticised the commission for not answering his earlier stormwater question. — Joel Swenson, 17 Ruth Street, as heard, resident
  2. ▶ 31:32Asked for a site visit on structural and water problems at his home. — Jonathan Heinberg, 331 Northfield Road, as heard, resident
  3. ▶ 1:06:25Said board members mocked residents at the May 29 meeting. — Joel Swenson, 17 Ruth Street, as heard, resident
  4. ▶ 1:09:13Objected to the Lorax characterisation and name-calling. — Robert Bowen, 1686 Massachusetts Avenue, as heard, attorney for Lake Shirley Improvement Corporation
  5. ▶ 1:17:01Asked for Open Meeting Law training and said she felt ridiculed. — Ashley Braun, as heard, resident, LSIC director
  6. ▶ 1:19:09Said residents were wrongly called an angry mob and asked for an apology. — Chris Kohlberg, 380 Sunset Lane, as heard, resident
  7. ▶ 1:43:56Asked to revert to the 2015 order through Sept 30 to avoid litigation. — Robert Bowen, as heard, attorney for Lake Shirley Improvement Corporation
  8. ▶ 1:53:07Said the LSIC was not consulted on the amended conditions. — Marilyn Jewel, 20 Sunset Way, as heard, resident

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:44Stormwater update and lake reportinformational · 5:36 long · water sewer
  2. ▶ 6:20Public commentinformational · 2:11 long · public comment
  3. ▶ 8:31Townsend Harbor Road barn hearingvoted · 6:15 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 14:46Culvert replacementsvoted · 16:25 long · roads and dpw
  5. ▶ 31:11Northfield Road resident site visitagent to visit · 4:49 long · public comment
  6. ▶ 36:00Dock and pool determinationsvoted · 7:40 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 43:40Enforcementvoted · 2:29 long · legal
  8. ▶ 46:09Open Meeting Law complaintsvoted · 39:00 long · legal, public comment
  9. ▶ 1:25:09Lake Shirley order of conditionsleft as is, waiver · 1:47:06 long · legal, policy
  10. ▶ 3:12:15LSIC treatmentvoted · 13:15 long · water sewer
  11. ▶ 3:25:30Regulations reviewvoted · 13:04 long · policy
  12. ▶ 3:38:34Land donation and other businessinformational · 9:46 long · planning and zoning

What the captions could not carry

  • Adjournment vote.
  • Stretches around 12600 to 13500 are garbled.
  • Count of the 13-ish treatment vote: Ken Jones may have voted no.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 1:04Stormwater program costsWhat does the stormwater phase two work cost?already answered: thread:stormwater-fee

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