Conservation Commission, September 25, 2019

The town published an agenda for this meeting. No minutes have been published; the recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.

grantslegalplanning and zoningpolicypublic comment

Present: Richard burr (member); Jeff Viviana (member); Benjamin (member); Dominic (presenter (herbicide applicator/consultant)); Wendy (presenter (aquatic restoration consultant)); Dawn (presenter (remote, on the line)); Jackie (member); Jack (member); Bob (member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

No substantive votes heard. 0 procedural.

The money

1. ▶ 1:07:14Alum treatment of the lake (source control)

   The 2017 study's alum treatment option was not chosen because of its perceived high cost.

2. ▶ 1:08:57Volunteer water sampling equipment

   The lake group invested in equipment to train volunteers for nutrient sampling.

   as heard:well over $5,000

3. ▶ 1:49:55Alum dosing cost estimate

   A consultant estimated the cost of whole-lake alum dosing.

   as heard:a hundred and two to one hundred thousand dollars to two hundred and fifty thousand dollarsbetween a hundred to two hundred fifty thousand dollars

4. ▶ 1:50:56Low-dose alum and retention pond maintenance

   A quote was mentioned for a low-dose treatment, plus yearly upkeep for a retention pond.

   as heard:50 grand150 to 200 thousand dollars

5. ▶ 1:46:28Watershed grants (319, 604b)

   Grants would require a municipality to apply and a local match would likely come from the town.

   as heard:319 grants604 B grants

6. ▶ 1:55:28Consultant cost to lake association

   A speaker said the association pays for the consultant's decisions each year.

   as heard:thirty or forty thousand dollars a year

Settled without a vote

• ▶ 16:06Members agreed to add a special condition on reporting fish kills, modeled on an example order, with contact to Fish and Game.
• ▶ 27:08Consensus that the drawdown condition would allow up to six feet, with variation left to weather and results; the specific depth was to be confirmed in writing with the agency.
• ▶ 1:18:59Agreed to use a May-1st-or-earlier start for clarity readings, with a parenthetical allowing weather adjustment, and to bring the water quality monitoring paragraph into the special conditions.
• ▶ 1:27:43Annual report to cover one drawdown cycle (fall to fall) with a hard due date, and no repeat alternatives review every three years.
• ▶ 1:57:13The consultant will update the draft conditions next week and send them to commissioners.
• ▶ 1:59:05With no quorum, the warrant article would be submitted before the deadline and ratified later.

Documents and exhibits

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

1. ▶ 1:54:26A lake association speaker said the Lake Shirley Improvement Corps has worked with the commission since 2006 without blocking the consultant's treatment decisions, and that people are tired of the conversation.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

• policy91 min · 76%
• legal12 min · 10%
• planning and zoning12 min · 10%
• grants9 min · 8%
• water sewer9 min · 8%
• public comment6 min · 5%
• warrant article6 min · 5%

The whole meeting, in order

1. ▶ 0:11Opening, open meeting notice, roll call, hearing openedinformational · 1:28 long
2. ▶ 1:39Species loss data and agency responses on drawdown depthinformational · 12:05 long · legal, planning and zoning
3. ▶ 13:44Fish kill reporting conditionagreed to add condition · 5:05 long · policy
4. ▶ 18:49Drawdown depth and variationconsensus on up to six feet · 10:22 long · policy
5. ▶ 29:11Herbicide pretreatment surveys, methodology and oversightno resolution; methodology to be shared · 34:52 long · policy
6. ▶ 1:04:03Algae control monitoring and nutrient testingagreed to bring monitoring paragraph into conditions · 16:22 long · policy
7. ▶ 1:20:25Annual report content, dates and success criteriaconsensus · 18:26 long · policy
8. ▶ 1:38:51Peer review requirementmembers favored dropping it · 6:09 long · policy
9. ▶ 1:45:00Watershed sources, alum costs, grants and stormwaterinformational · 9:26 long · grants, water sewer
10. ▶ 1:54:26Public comment, timeline, warrant article, adjournmentinformational · 6:13 long · public comment, warrant article

What the captions could not carry

• No motion or vote on the order of conditions is captured.
• Captions are garbled in many stretches, so speakers and some figures are uncertain.
• Whether the meeting formally adjourned is unclear; a quorum problem was mentioned near the end.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

• ▶ 1:49:55Lake alum treatment costsWhat would alum treatment of Lake Shirley or its inlet cost, and who would pay?

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