What was said

Conservation Commission, October 16, 2019

the recording · 3:24 long, about 21,536 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 2:51:18The Commission approved the order of conditions for the Lake Shirley weed-management program for five years, with its special conditions as amended.
  2. ▶ 2:23:53Two conditions were changed: the annual report and late-summer survey must come from a contractor other than the treatment contractor, and the 48-hour default algae-treatment line was struck.
  3. ▶ 20:45The Commission issued negative determinations for 238 Prospect Street and 152 Flynn Road, and approved a notice of intent for a dwelling and septic system.
  4. ▶ 3:22:30It adopted updated wetland regulations and signed a settlement agreement for 101 Pleasant Street that forgives fines in exchange for a smaller payment.
  5. ▶ 1:24:18Hearings on the culvert, 51 Fire Road, Sunset Lane and 260 Pallulah Road were continued to November 6, and Island Road to November 20.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The Lake Shirley order sets who tests and reports on the lake's weed treatment for the next five years, which affects lake users and the cost carried by the volunteer group running the program.
  • The updated wetland regulations apply to future building or yard work near wetlands, rivers and lakes in town, and the trust-fund spending on a land appraisal draws on conservation money.

Watch next

  • November 6: continued hearings for the culvert, 51 Fire Road, Sunset Lane and 260 Pallulah Road, with a site visit to Pallulah Road the Saturday at 9 a.m. before.
  • November 20: Island Road hearing, after the applicant revises plans to keep structures outside the 30-foot zone.

legalplanning and zoningpolicypublic comment

Present: Richard birch (member); Jackrabbit Carla (member); Katie child's (member); Ken Jones (member); Jeff Viviano (member, remote); Todd wire / Wallace (chair); Matt (conservation agent); attorney Bowen / Bonilla (town counsel). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 9:31Negative three determination for 238 Prospect Street, with the path limited to four feetpassed
  2. ▶ 18:14Negative three determination for 152 Flynn Roadpassed
  3. ▶ 20:45Approve the notice of intent for the single-family dwelling and septic system, with a special condition that the driveway stays outside the 50-foot zonepassed
  4. ▶ 22:11Continue the culvert hearing to November 6passed
  5. ▶ 31:29Continue the 51 Fire Road hearing pending advertisement to November 6passed
  6. ▶ 34:38Continue the Sunset Lane retaining wall hearing to November 6passed
  7. ▶ 1:13:37Continue the 260 Pallulah Road hearing to November 6passed
  8. ▶ 1:24:18Continue the Island Road hearing to November 20passed
  9. ▶ 2:51:18Approve the order of conditions for the Lake Shirley management program with the special conditions as amended, for five yearspassed
  10. ▶ 3:00:26Ratify enforcement order 2019 f15 and have the agent work with the owner on a remediation plan and filingpassed
  11. ▶ 3:10:05Adopt the updated wetland regulations, allowing minor table-of-contents correctionspassed
  12. ▶ 3:11:59Fund a registration feepassed
  13. ▶ 3:14:06Spend the trust funds, smallest first, on the land acquisition appraisalpassed
  14. ▶ 3:22:30Sign the settlement agreement drafted by Town Counsel for 101 Pleasant Streetpassed

And 3 procedural: approve minutes of the last meeting (▶ 3:19:21); approve minutes of september 18 (▶ 3:20:44); adjourn (▶ 3:23:37).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 10 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 6 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differs915 Northfield Road: notice of intent approval vs Order of Conditions▶ 20:45

    recording Approve the notice of intent for the single-family dwelling and septic system, with a special condition that the driveway stays outside the 50-foot zone — passed

    town’s minutes “a motion was made to issue an order of conditions that the driveway was not to go into the 50 foot zone by kj. cc seconded and the commission noted unanimously.”

    Same driveway condition, but ours calls it approving the notice of intent while the official issues an Order of Conditions; check the recording for the exact motion wording.

  2. differs260 Pallulah Road continuation vs Greco Alonso continuation▶ 1:13:37

    recording Continue the 260 Pallulah Road hearing to November 6 — passed

    town’s minutes “motion to continue to november 6 at 7 pm at the ritter building at 960 mass ave by kj and a second by cl with a unanimous vote to approve.”

    The official names the Greco Alonso riverfront hearing, not Pallulah Road; check whether these are the same matter (site visit date also differs: ours Saturday 9am, official November 2).

  3. differsEnforcement order ratified: number and subject▶ 3:00:26

    recording Ratify enforcement order 2019 f15 and have the agent work with the owner on a remediation plan and filing — passed

    town’s minutes “the enforcement order was ratified by a motion of bp and a second by cl with a unanimous roll call vote approving the motion.”

    Official has two ratifications (EO-110 Fire Road 12 and ENF 2019-16 Town parking lot); ours has one numbered 2019 f15 and may be EO-110 or a misheard number. Check which was meant and whether the second was voted.

  4. differsAppraisal cost $4,500▶ 3:13:24

    recording Appraisal of Northfield Road land, paid from trust funds: 4500 bucks, forty five hundred dollars

    town’s minutes “mm requested permission from the con com to use the trust finds to pay for the appraisal.”

    Official prints no dollar figure, and calls it the Saliba land; check the recording for the amount and the parcel.

  5. differsButterfly Lane certificate of compliance▶ 3:16:50

    recording Butterfly Lane certificate of compliance deferred to a site walk on the road punch list.

    town’s minutes “the commission approved the issuance for the lots by a motion of kj and a second by cc with a unanimous vote to approve.”

    Official approves certificates for Lots 1, 3, 7 and puts only the roadway certificate on the site walk list; ours records a deferral. Check what was voted.

  6. differsLake Shirley peer review and struck lines▶ 2:23:53

    recording Lake Shirley annual report and late-summer vegetation survey must be done by a contractor other than the treatment contractor. The peer-review item was struck.

    town’s minutes “in line 5 the section added for remote participation was not necessary and will be removed.”

    Different line edits described; official lists drawdown, 2-foot emergency condition, log, and remote participation edits but not peer review or 48-hour algae default. Check amendments.

In one record only: 2 from the recording, 1 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — 101 Pleasant Street settlement vote: Sign the settlement agreement drafted by Town Counsel for 101 Pleasant Street — passed ▶ 3:22:30
  • Recording only — Agent email on parking intrusion near Stump Hole: Agent to email the selectmen and others about parking intrusion on town land near Stump Hole. ▶ 3:03:20
  • Town’s minutes only — Hickory Hill extension permit and other deferrals: “extension permit - hickory hill lake management order of conditions - to be considered on november 6”

Compared 2026-11-04. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:16:27Peer review cost for the Lake Shirley management plan

    A written comment from the Lake Shirley applicant side said a redo of plant and water-quality work would be a heavy cost for a volunteer group.

    as heard:three to five thousand dollarssix to ten thousand dollar

  2. ▶ 3:13:24Appraisal of Northfield Road land, paid from trust funds

    The agent asked to use a trust fund for the appraisal instead of the woodland study. The Commission agreed.

    as heard:4500 bucksforty five hundred dollars

  3. ▶ 3:21:27Settlement over 101 Pleasant Street

    The agreement forgives fines in exchange for collecting a smaller payment, and bars relitigation.

    as heard:$11,000

  4. ▶ 3:11:59Registration fee

    A registration cost was funded by vote.

    as heard:40 bucks

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:11:33Site visit to 260 Pallulah Road set for Saturday 9 a.m. before the November 6 meeting.
  • ▶ 1:25:01Island Road applicant to revise plans so structures stay outside the 30-foot zone before a site walk.
  • ▶ 2:23:53Lake Shirley annual report and late-summer vegetation survey must be done by a contractor other than the treatment contractor. The peer-review item was struck.
  • ▶ 2:11:04The line on algae treatment permission by default after 48 hours was struck.
  • ▶ 3:16:50Butterfly Lane certificate of compliance deferred to a site walk on the road punch list.
  • ▶ 3:03:20Agent to email the selectmen and others about parking intrusion on town land near Stump Hole.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Letter from GPR requesting a continuance while negotiating with the Storm family
  • Comments submitted by Ms. Gendron on the Lake Shirley Notice of Intent
  • Historical ortho photos (Greco Alonso hearing)
  • Plan concerning the boulders (Lavoie)
  • Draft planting plan (Greco Alonso)
  • New plans (Nanci Bell)
  • Revised section 335 wetland regulations
  • Lunenburg Wetland Bylaw section 335

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 38:32notice of intent narrativeapplication or permit, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Comments submitted by Ms. Gendron on the Lake Shirley Notice of Intent”)
  • ▶ 45:14site development plan packageplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 53:10Fitchburg Redevelopment letter of supportletter or email· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:27:17draft special conditionsdraft policy or bylaw, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 3:08:17updated wetland regulationsdraft policy or bylaw, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Revised section 335 wetland regulations”)
  • ▶ 3:21:27agreement for 101 Pleasant Streetcontract or agreement, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 1:54:10A Lake Shirley volunteer water tester objected to the winter dissolved-oxygen testing requirement and raised fish kills. — Joel Swenson, as heard, volunteer tester

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 1:03238 Prospect Street driveway and utilitiesvoted · 8:51 long · planning and zoning
  2. ▶ 10:36152 Flynn Road retaining wall and dockvoted · 8:03 long · planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 19:04Septic and dwelling notice of intentvoted · 2:45 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 21:49Culvert, 51 Fire Road and Sunset Lane continuancescontinued · 13:11 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 35:24260 Pallulah Road riverfront restorationcontinued · 38:37 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 1:15:35Island Road request for determinationcontinued · 10:51 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 1:26:26Lake Shirley management program special conditionsvoted · 1:28:54 long · legal, planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 2:56:40Enforcement mattersvoted · 10:30 long · legal
  9. ▶ 3:07:13Wetland regulations update hearingvoted · 4:07 long · policy
  10. ▶ 3:11:59Business items, minutes, legal and agent reportvoted · 11:38 long · legal

What the captions could not carry

  • Several stretches around 6722-6850 were music or applause with no usable words.
  • Speakers are unidentified in most of the captions.
  • The Lake Shirley dam and drawdown discussion has garbled passages.
  • Some roll-call tallies are garbled, and recorded outcomes are inferred from the roll-call lines.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 3:01:34Conservation land encroachmentsWhat land encroachments and enforcement cases has the Conservation Commission dealt with, and what did they cost or recover?

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