What was said

Conservation Commission, December 18, 2019

the recording · 2:23 long, about 15,511 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:51:21The commission ordered the 228 West Street owner to restore drainage trenches to their original condition by spring, with notice to the agent first.
  2. ▶ 55:27It approved a notice of intent for retaining walls at 72 Hemlock Drive, with the face of the wall staked and approved by the agent, after debate over grandfathering.
  3. ▶ 28:43It approved the common driveway crossing at 41 and 47 Reservoir Road and the 69 Colburn Street septic replacement.
  4. ▶ 1:22:16It approved the conservation restriction for the 994 Northfield Road solar site as drafted and backed sending it to the state.
  5. ▶ 1:26:14Votes to pay for a 21E study from the land acquisition trust fund and to continue three hearings to January 15 were not audible in the minutes.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The conservation restriction on the solar site and the choice to pay for the 21E study from the land acquisition trust fund, not the forestry account, bear on how town conservation money is used.
  • The Hemlock Drive and West Street decisions show how the commission treats old walls and altered drainage near wetlands, which affects what nearby property owners may build or must undo.

Watch next

  • Continued hearings for 54 Plantation Drive, the DPW culvert and the Nancy Bell retaining wall return on January 15.
  • A site inspection at 139 Northfield Road was planned for Saturday, January 11, and could slip to spring if snow covers the ground.

executive sessionlegalplanning and zoning

Present: Richard Burke (chair, remote); Katie Child's (member); Karla Jackrabbit (member); Ken Jones (member); Viviano (associate member); Matt (conservation agent). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 8:12Approve notice of intent for 69 Colburn Street septic system with limit-of-work demarcated by posts and wetland markerspassed
  2. ▶ 15:02Negative 3 determination for 66 Horizon Island Road retaining wallnot audible
  3. ▶ 28:43Approve notice of intent for common driveway crossing at 41 and 47 Reservoir Road with condition 40 dewatering applicablepassed
  4. ▶ 55:27Approve notice of intent for 72 Hemlock Drive retaining walls with face of wall staked and approved by the agentpassed
  5. ▶ 1:02:18Continue 54 Plantation Drive hearing to January 15not audible
  6. ▶ 1:03:22Continue DPW culvert notice of intent to January 15not audible
  7. ▶ 1:04:04Continue 51 Thyroid Nancy Bell retaining wall hearing to January 15not audible
  8. ▶ 1:22:16Approve conservation restriction as presented in draft and support its submission to the statepassed
  9. ▶ 1:26:14Transfer funds from the land acquisition trust fund to pay for the 21E on the McCain propertynot audible
  10. ▶ 1:28:50Assess a $100 fine for the enforcement violation at 164 Page Streetnot audible
  11. ▶ 1:51:21Direct the 228 West Street owner to restore trenches to original condition, notifying the agent before worknot audible

And 2 procedural: approve december 4th minutes (▶ 2:11:54); adjourn until january 15 (▶ 2:22:32).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 8 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 5 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differs72 Hemlock Drive retaining walls (Myles Jenkin) vote count▶ 55:27

    recording Approve notice of intent for 72 Hemlock Drive retaining walls with face of wall staked and approved by the agent — passed

    town’s minutes “the motion was approved as a roll call vote totaling 4 yes to 2 no's with one abstention due to recusal.”

    Our minutes record only "passed". The official minutes record a split vote of 4-2-1, so check the recording and roll call for the count.

  2. differs228 West Street restoration deadline and vote▶ 1:51:21

    recording Direct the 228 West Street owner to restore trenches to original condition, notifying the agent before work — not audible

    town’s minutes “a motion was made for the owner to restore the perimeter drain, remove the trenchs”

    The deadline differs: ours says "by spring", the official minutes say June 1, 2020. The official minutes also add the perimeter drain, and say RB abstained. Check the recording for the date and the abstention.

  3. differs139 Northfield Road site inspection date▶ 2:05:54

    recording Site inspection at 139 Northfield Road planned for Saturday January 11, later discussion of waiting until spring if snow covers ground

    town’s minutes “the commission decided to schedule a site inspection on may 16 2020 for the may 20, 2020 meeting.”

    The dates differ: January 11 in ours, May 16, 2020 in the official minutes. Check the recording for the final decision.

  4. differsFines settlement payment $11,000 and press release▶ 2:16:10

    recording Fines settlement payment: $11,000; Agent to work on a press release stating the town received fine money

    town’s minutes —

    The official minutes carry neither the $11,000 figure nor a press release decision. Check the recording for what the payment was.

  5. differsLake drawdown non-compliance documentation▶ 2:20:03

    recording Agent to document the lake drawdown non-compliance and send a copy to the town manager

    town’s minutes “rb requested mm document to the town that shirley conservation has”

    These may be the same request, but the subject differs (lake drawdown versus Shirley Conservation's order). Check the recording to see whether it is one item.

In one record only: 3 from the recording, 2 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Members Ken Jones and Todd Dwyer / Carl Luck, Bob Pease: Ken Jones (member) ▶ 0:00
  • Recording only — Forestry revolving account balance: Forestry revolving account balance: thirty four thousand four hundred and seventy-six dollars, twenty three thousand seven hundred eighty eight dollars ▶ 1:23:34
  • Recording only — Registered mail cost for orders: Registered mail cost for orders: seven bucks a document ▶ 2:15:09
  • Town’s minutes only — Dutton site inspection on Sunday afternoon: “bp did reach out to the applicant and will be doing a site inspection sunday afternoon”
  • Town’s minutes only — Rip rap added to both sides of the driveway and no-hunting requirement in the conservation restriction: “it was added into the new version provided to the commission at the meeting that adds a requirement of no hunting.”

Compared 2026-11-04. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

Transfers

atwhat movedamount, as heardoutcome
▶ 1:26:14From trust fund / land acquisition funds to pay for the 21E on the McCain property1735 dollarsdiscussed only; vote taken but result not audible

The money

  1. ▶ 1:23:34Forestry revolving account balance

    The chair said the forestry account has dropped and is the only money available for improvements, so he wanted to preserve it.

    as heard:thirty four thousand four hundred and seventy-six dollarstwenty three thousand seven hundred eighty eight dollars

  2. ▶ 1:24:0221E study on the McCain property

    A similar study in 2018 was paid from the forestry account; the treasurer saw no reason land acquisition trust funds could not pay this one.

    as heard:one thousand seven hundred thirty five dollars1735 dollars

  3. ▶ 1:25:04Interest on trust fund versus revolving account

    A member noted the revolving account earns no interest while the trust fund does, but the amount is small.

  4. ▶ 1:28:50Enforcement fine at 164 Page Street

    A fine was moved after the owner did not respond or appear.

    as heard:$100

  5. ▶ 2:16:10Fines settlement payment

    The town received a check covering the agreed past fines from the Gardner matter.

    as heard:$11,000

  6. ▶ 2:15:09Registered mail cost for orders

    The agent said registered mail would be costly per document, so he prefers the state electronic filing system.

    as heard:seven bucks a document

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:51:21Commission directed the 228 West Street owner to restore the trenches to original condition by spring, notifying the agent before starting
  • ▶ 2:05:54Site inspection at 139 Northfield Road planned for Saturday January 11, later discussion of waiting until spring if snow covers ground
  • ▶ 1:20:27Commission gave preliminary endorsement of the conservation restriction so it can go to the state
  • ▶ 2:16:51Agent to work on a press release stating the town received fine money
  • ▶ 2:20:03Agent to document the lake drawdown non-compliance and send a copy to the town manager

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Notice of Intent, John and Joanne Tanner, 69 Kilburn Street (replacement septic system)
  • Request for Determination by Peg Gorman, 66 Horizon Island Road (retaining wall replacement)
  • Notice of Intent by Steven Powell, 155 Reservoir Road Realty Trust (common driveway crossing)
  • Notice of Intent by Myles Jenkin, 72 Hemlock Drive (retaining walls and steps)
  • Request for determination by Micke Dutton, 54 Pine Acres Dr (brush trimming)
  • DPW Notice of Intent, replacement of culverts at Sunset Lane and Northfield Road
  • Notice of Intent by Nanci Bell, 51 Fire Road 19 (retaining wall)
  • Revised plan by Ducharme and Dillis (Jenkin matter)
  • Printed construction sequence (Jenkin matter)
  • Settler's Crossing Conservation Restriction, plan and baseline documentation
  • Mullins form submitted by JR
  • Minutes of December 4, 2019

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 1:07:09conservation restrictioncontract or agreement, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Settler's Crossing Conservation Restriction, plan and baseline documentation”)
  • ▶ 1:07:09baseline documentation reportreport, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Settler's Crossing Conservation Restriction, plan and baseline documentation”)
  • ▶ 30:45plan overlaid on existing conditionsplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:23:34forestry account reportreport, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:11:54December 4th minutesprior minutes· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Minutes of December 4, 2019”)

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Call to order, roll call, remote participationinformational · 1:49 long
  2. ▶ 1:4969 Colburn Street septic replacement NOIvoted · 7:50 long · planning and zoning, water sewer
  3. ▶ 9:3966 Horizon Island Road retaining wallvoted · 6:36 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 16:1541 and 47 Reservoir Road common driveway culvertvoted · 13:39 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 29:5472 Hemlock Drive retaining walls and grandfatheringvoted · 29:01 long · planning and zoning, legal
  6. ▶ 58:55Continued hearings: 54 Plantation Drive, DPW culverts, Nancy Bell wallcontinued to January 15 · 6:19 long · planning and zoning, roads and dpw
  7. ▶ 1:05:14Conservation restriction for 994 Northfield Road solar sitevoted preliminary approval · 17:58 long · planning and zoning, legal
  8. ▶ 1:23:12Funding the 21E on McCain propertyvoted · 4:55 long · budget, transfers
  9. ▶ 1:28:07Enforcement at 164 Page Streetfine moved · 2:13 long · legal
  10. ▶ 1:30:20228 West Street potential non-compliance, drainage trenchesvoted to restore · 23:51 long · planning and zoning, legal
  11. ▶ 1:54:11Trails grant and kayak access at Lake Shirleyinformational · 6:49 long · grants, recreation
  12. ▶ 2:01:00139 Northfield Road notice of non-compliancesite inspection scheduled · 7:33 long · legal, planning and zoning
  13. ▶ 2:08:33Open space land and committee discussioninformational · 3:21 long · planning and zoning
  14. ▶ 2:11:54Minutes, committee reports, agent report, fines, lake drawdown, GISinformational · 10:38 long · legal
  15. ▶ 2:22:32Adjournmentvoted · 0:43 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Several roll call vote counts were garbled, including the Horizon Island determination, the continuances and the trust fund transfer
  • The 66 Horizon Island Road recusal speaker and member identity unclear
  • Speaker names are mostly unreliable in the captions

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 1:28:50Conservation land encroachmentsWhat enforcement actions and fines has the Conservation Commission levied and collected?

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