What was said

Conservation Commission, January 15, 2020

the recording · 2:02 long, about 13,454 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 35:16The Commission continued the 90 Hemlock Dr septic and tree removal hearing to February 5 and asked for a tree removal and replanting plan and a site walk.
  2. ▶ 1:07:21It continued the 1325 Mass Ave earth removal hearing to February 5, with the plan to add notes on basin timing, impervious area and maintenance and reporting.
  3. ▶ 1:14:53It issued a negative determination allowing the 54 Pine Acres driveway to be maintained at its current width.
  4. ▶ 1:30:42It continued the illegal paving item at the lake access lot to February 5; the agent is to consult town counsel before the Commission decides on remediation.
  5. ▶ 1:39:55It authorized an amount not to exceed a set cap for printing a tri-fold insert in the tax bill, to come from the existing budget.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Several wetlands projects, including a septic replacement, an earth removal and the lake access paving, stay undecided until at least February 5, so neighbors and applicants have another hearing to attend.
  • The tax bill insert is a small spend from the existing budget, and applicants face electronic filing fees on top of state and local permit fees under the new permitting process.

Watch next

  • February 5 hearings on 72 and 90 Hemlock Dr, 1325 Mass Ave and the lake access lot paving, after the agent consults town counsel.
  • Later continuances: the Sunset Lane and Northfield Road culverts on February 19 and the retaining wall on March 5.

feesgrantslegalpersonnelplanning and zoningtown departments

Present: Richard Kirsch (member); Richard birch (member (remote), remote); Todd why (member); Katie child's (chair); Ken Jones (member); Jackrabbit (member); Corolla (member); Matt (conservation agent); Jeffery biana (associate member (absent)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 9:57Continue the field change for 72 Hemlock Dr to February 5thpassed
  2. ▶ 35:16Continue the 90 Hemlock Dr notice of intent hearing to February 5thpassed
  3. ▶ 1:07:21Continue the 1325 Mass Ave earth removal hearing to February 5thpassed
  4. ▶ 1:14:53Issue a negative determination allowing the 54 Pine Acres driveway to be maintained at 12 feet in perpetuitypassed
  5. ▶ 1:17:02Continue the Sunset Lane and Northfield Road culvert hearing to February 19thpassed
  6. ▶ 1:20:12Continue the retaining wall hearing to March 5thpassed
  7. ▶ 1:30:42Continue the illegal paving enforcement item to February 5thpassed
  8. ▶ 1:39:55Authorize an amount not to exceed $500 for the tri-fold insert in the tax billpassed

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of the december 18th meeting (▶ 1:50:54); adjourn until february 5th (▶ 2:02:17).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 12 agree, 7 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 4 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsMass Ave earth removal hearing address▶ 1:07:21

    recording Continue the 1325 Mass Ave earth removal hearing to February 5th — passed

    town’s minutes “the hearing was continued to the february 5, 2020 meeting at 960 mass ave. at 7 pm by a motion of jr and a second by cl.”

    Address differs (1325 vs 1331 Mass Ave); could be misheard digits, but check the agenda for the correct address.

  2. differsRetaining wall continuance vote to March 5▶ 1:20:12

    recording Continue the retaining wall hearing to March 5th — passed

    town’s minutes “motion was made to continue to the march 5, 2020 meeting with a note to the applicant if the information is not submitted”

    Same date, but the official minutes record no outcome (not stated); check whether the vote was taken and passed.

  3. differs72 Hemlock marked-up plan due date▶ 8:06

    recording The 72 Hemlock owner is to bring a marked-up replanting plan by the week before Feb 5 so it can be approved as a field change.

    town’s minutes “mm requested the marked plan be returned for tuesday january 28, 2020”

    Consistent in substance (Jan 28 is the week before Feb 5); check only that the date matches the recording.

  4. differsRichard Kirsch vs Bob Pease

    recording Richard Kirsch (member)

    town’s minutes “called to order by td. all present except jv.”

    Ours lists Richard Kirsch, possibly Bob Pease (BP seconded the first motion); check the roster.

7 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Attendee: Richard Bursch (chair/remote):Richard birch (member (remote))→Richard Bursch
  • Attendee: Todd Dwyer:Todd why (member)→Todd Dwyer
  • Attendee: Catie Childs:Katie child's (chair)→Catie Childs
  • Attendee: Jack Rabbitt:Jackrabbit (member)→Jack Rabbitt
  • Attendee: Carl Luck:Corolla (member)→Carl Luck
  • Absent associate member:Jeffery biana (associate member (absent))→Jeffrey Vivano
  • Conservation agent:Matt (conservation agent)→Matthew S. Marro
In one record only: 2 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Funding source for insert: Funds for the tax bill insert to come from the existing budget — $500 (discussed only) ▶ 1:39:55
  • Recording only — Mass Ave plan notes: 1325 Mass Ave plan to add notes on basin timing before phase four, impervious area, and a maintenance and annual reporting plan. ▶ 1:06:59
  • Town’s minutes only — Boston wetland ordinance review: “jr asked mm to add a review of boston proposed local wetland ordinance changes to a future agenda.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Container removal at Page Street: “td instructed mr. felton to contact mm around early spring to verify the removal of the container.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Mattson certificate of compliance: “mattson 113 youngs road lot 4 dep 208-1055 continued pending adjusted as-built plans.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Emerald Place Beach update: “eo- emerald place beach- update (to be made in the spring of 2020)”

Compared 2026-11-04. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

Transfers

atwhat movedamount, as heardoutcome
▶ 1:39:55Funds for the tax bill insert to come from the existing budget$500discussed only

The money

  1. ▶ 1:39:32Tax bill insert printing

    Printing the tri-fold for the tax bill costs a small per-copy amount, with an estimate of roughly the quoted total. A not-to-exceed cap was proposed, to come from the existing budget.

    as heard:9 cents a copyfour hundred and forty dollarsfive hundred dollars$500

  2. ▶ 1:56:43Permitting software fees

    A member objected that applicants pay an extra electronic filing fee and also pay separate state and local fees.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 8:06The 72 Hemlock owner is to bring a marked-up replanting plan by the week before Feb 5 so it can be approved as a field change.
  • ▶ 26:3890 Hemlock applicants to prepare a tree removal and replanting plan, with a site walk before the next meeting.
  • ▶ 1:06:591325 Mass Ave plan to add notes on basin timing before phase four, impervious area, and a maintenance and annual reporting plan.
  • ▶ 1:19:09Retaining wall applicant to get a final continuance; if she does not respond, leave to withdraw may follow.
  • ▶ 1:28:59Agent to consult town counsel on the paving violation and the lake access lot before the commission decides remediation.
  • ▶ 2:01:52Agent to prepare a description of the application process for applicants.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Draft bird habitat Stewardship Plans (Gray Gouldrup), on the cloud in the meeting folder
  • Plans for 1325 Mass Ave (Proctor), page 3.0 (erosion control)
  • Pictures for 54 Pine Acres Dr determination, on the cloud

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 10:59plan from duck Smith's plan, December 12thplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 36:42notice of intent for 1325 Mass Aveapplication or permit, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Plans for 1325 Mass Ave (Proctor), page 3.0 (erosion control)”)
  • ▶ 1:04:53drainage reportreport· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:31:22deed PDFother· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:50:54minutes from the December 18th meetingprior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Attendance and announcements, Boston wetlands changesinformational; to be discussed Feb 5 · 3:10 long · planning and zoning
  2. ▶ 3:10Enforcement: 164 Page St and 72 Hemlock Dr field changecontinued to Feb 5 · 7:09 long · legal
  3. ▶ 10:1990 Hemlock Dr septic replacement and tree removal NOIcontinued to Feb 5 · 25:53 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 36:421325 Mass Ave earth removal and stormwater NOIcontinued to Feb 5 · 34:17 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 1:10:5954 Pine Acres Dr driveway brush trimmingvoted negative determination · 4:40 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 1:15:39Sunset Lane culverts and retaining wall hearingscontinued · 4:54 long · roads and dpw
  7. ▶ 1:20:33Illegal paving at lake access lotcontinued to Feb 5 · 13:41 long · legal
  8. ▶ 1:34:14New business: trails, forestry plans, tax bill insert funds, open space parcelsinsert funding voted · 16:40 long · grants, town departments
  9. ▶ 1:50:54Minutes, reports, agent report and permitting softwareminutes approved · 11:23 long · fees, technology
  10. ▶ 2:02:17Adjournmentvoted · 0:23 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Several captioned stretches in the hearings are garbled and speakers are unidentified.
  • Individual roll call tallies are only partly rendered.
  • Exact meeting dates cited for site walks are garbled.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 1:21:15Conservation land encroachmentsWhat is the plan and cost to remedy illegal paving on the lake access lot?

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