What was said

Conservation Commission, February 19, 2020

the recording · 2:15 long, about 16,423 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 34:51The Conservation Commission continued the three Chase Road hearings, the Mass Ave earth removal hearing, the DPW culvert hearing and the 51 Fire Road hearing to March 4.
  2. ▶ 1:43:40The commission set a site walk at the Allen Road lakefront property for Saturday, February 22, and kept the enforcement matter on the next agenda.
  3. ▶ 2:02:09The commission extended the pond herbicide order for three years, with seven days' notice and an annual report.
  4. ▶ 5:40The commission voted to fund an Eagle Scout bat house project from its gift fund, covering any shortfall from the project's fundraising.
  5. ▶ 33:30A Chase Road site visit was set for Saturday, February 29, at 9:30.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Chase Road, Mass Ave and the DPW culverts have no final decision yet, so neighbors worried about runoff, flooding or blasting can still be heard on March 4.
  • The herbicide extension and the Allen Road enforcement bear on how Hickory Hills' pond is treated and on the shoreline, and the association said the treatment cost is significant for it.

Watch next

  • March 4: continued hearings on Chase Road, Mass Ave, the DPW culverts and 51 Fire Road.
  • The next agenda: the Allen Road enforcement item, and the agent's update on land acquisition.

grantslegalplanning and zoningpublic commentwater sewer

Present: Todd wire (acting chair); bob peas (member); katie child's Carlock (member); Ken Jones (member); Matt (conservation agent). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 5:40Fund the Eagle Scout bat house project up to about 500 dollars from the gift fund.not audible
  2. ▶ 34:51Continue the three Chase Road hearings to March 4.not audible
  3. ▶ 1:18:26Continue the Mass Ave hearing to March 4.not audible
  4. ▶ 1:20:18Continue the DPW culvert hearing to March 4.not audible
  5. ▶ 1:21:00Continue the 51 Fire Road retaining wall hearing to March 4.not audible
  6. ▶ 1:43:40Hold a site walk on February 22 and keep the enforcement on the agenda.not audible
  7. ▶ 2:02:09Extend the herbicide order for three years with seven days' notice and an annual report.not audible

And 2 procedural: approve the february 5 minutes. (▶ 2:02:49); adjourn. (▶ 2:14:25).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 5 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 6 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differs51 Fire Road retaining wall hearing continuance▶ 1:21:00

    recording Continue the 51 Fire Road retaining wall hearing to March 4. — not audible

    town’s minutes “ms. bell has reached out to mm and he will be meeting with her by the next meeting.”

    Ours records a continuance vote for 51 Fire Road; official records no such vote, only staff meeting the applicant. Check the official record of this hearing.

  2. differsSite walk vote and timing, Feb 22 (Hickory Hills enforcement)▶ 1:43:40

    recording Hold a site walk on February 22 and keep the enforcement on the agenda. — not audible

    town’s minutes “the site walk agreed to by a motion of bp and a second by cl with a unanimous vote to approve the motion.”

    Date matches, but ours says Allen Road property at 9:30 for decision; official gives 9 AM at 179/183 Island Road. Check the time and the location name against the recording.

  3. differsHerbicide order extension▶ 2:02:09

    recording Extend the herbicide order for three years with seven days' notice and an annual report. — not audible

    town’s minutes “the commission approved with the addition of a yearly status letter to include chemicals used, timing and quantities by a motion of kj and second by cc with a unanimous vote”

    Both extend with a yearly report, but ours adds three-year term and seven days' notice that the official does not state. Check the term and notice conditions.

  4. differsHickory Hills weed treatment $300,000 figure▶ 2:06:33

    recording Hickory Hills weed treatment: $300,000

    town’s minutes —

    Official prints no such figure; likely a mishearing or a different item. Check the recording around this point.

  5. differsChase Road site visit time▶ 33:30

    recording Site visit on Chase Road set for Saturday February 29 at 9:30.

    town’s minutes “a site inspection was scheduled for february 29, 2020 at 9 am.”

    Date matches but time differs (9:30 vs 9 AM). Check the recording.

  6. differsSite visit at Allen Road property Feb 22▶ 1:37:00

    recording Site visit at the Allen Road property set for Saturday February 22, with Hickory Hills representatives invited.

    town’s minutes “the site inspection was schedul ed for feb 22, 2020 at 9 am.”

    Same date, but ours says Allen Road at unstated time while official says 179/183 Island Road at 9 AM. Check location and time.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Member Bob Pease:bob peas (member)→Bob Pease
  • Member Catie Childs:katie child's Carlock (member)→Catie Childs
  • Member Ken Jones:Ken Jones (member)→Kenneth Jones
  • Conservation agent Matt:Matt (conservation agent)→Matthew S. Marro
In one record only: 2 from the recording, 2 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Enforcement stays on next agenda: Enforcement stays on the next agenda. ▶ 1:44:02
  • Recording only — Agent to get land acquisition update: Agent to get an update on land acquisition for next meeting. ▶ 1:52:21
  • Town’s minutes only — Tree marking request at Abbott hearing: “td asked for the trees greater than 6 inch caliper to be marked both on the plan and in the field.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Members Carl Luck and Jack Rabbitt attendance: “jr noted hickory hills has started a storm water committee”

Compared 2026-11-04. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:32Eagle Scout bat houses

    Estimate to build and mount four bat houses; the board would cover any shortfall from fundraising from its gift fund.

    as heard:four hundred forty-two dollars440 to 500five hundred dollars

  2. ▶ 2:06:33Hickory Hills weed treatment

    A landowners representative said treatment funding is significant for the association.

    as heard:$300,000

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 33:30Site visit on Chase Road set for Saturday February 29 at 9:30.
  • ▶ 1:37:00Site visit at the Allen Road property set for Saturday February 22, with Hickory Hills representatives invited.
  • ▶ 1:44:02Enforcement stays on the next agenda.
  • ▶ 1:52:21Agent to get an update on land acquisition for next meeting.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Notice of Intent, Wilbur Abbott III, 335 Chase Road (common driveway, lot 1; single family homes with driveway and septic, lots 2 and 3)
  • Notice of Intent, Dan & Jean Proctor, 1325 Mass Ave
  • DPW Notice of Intent, replacement of culverts at Sunset Lane and Northfield Road
  • Notice of Intent by Nanci Bell, replacement of retaining wall, 51 Fire Road 19
  • MEPA filing presented by the Proctor applicant
  • Deed on Hickory Hills property line (one foot within the high watermark), 179/183 Island Road
  • Hickory Hills landowners association deed and rules
  • Engineered plan for the Hickory Hills shoreline
  • Storm water maintenance plan (Proctor)
  • Minutes of February 5, 2020 meeting
  • Minutes of May 29, 2019 meeting

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 1:22:01quick claim deedcontract or agreement· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:02:29February 5th minutesprior minutes· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Minutes of February 5, 2020 meeting”)

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 1:00:03Asked what a storm drain is and who will maintain the Mass Ave basin and how often. — mark reznikov, as heard, resident, 68 Townsend Harbor Road
  2. ▶ 1:06:40MS4 warrant article this spring, who certifies vernal pools, and concern that subdividing the house lot would circumvent the zone three limit. — Katie Adams, as heard, citizen, Peninsula Drive
  3. ▶ 1:09:49Worried about runoff, dust, flooding, property value and ledge near his backyard; said he received no notice. — a speaker, abutter, Townsend Harbor corner
  4. ▶ 1:17:40Said it was ruled earlier that there would be no blasting. — Cressida kovitch, as heard, resident, 68 Townsend Harbor
  5. ▶ 1:21:41Reported filling and clearing at the Allen Road lakefront and asked for remediation with native planting. — John peas, as heard, officer, Hickory Hills landowners
  6. ▶ 1:25:40Pointed to the deed's 50 foot setback for structures. — Peter Kelly, as heard, Hickory Hills Association board

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Roll call and announcementsinformational · 1:50 long
  2. ▶ 1:50Eagle Scout bat housesvoted · 4:16 long · grants
  3. ▶ 6:27Chase Road driveway and two house lotscontinued to March 4 · 28:24 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 35:36Mass Ave earth removal and stormwatercontinued to March 4 · 43:14 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  5. ▶ 1:19:11DPW culverts and 51 Fire Roadcontinued · 2:09 long · roads and dpw
  6. ▶ 1:21:20Allen Road enforcementsite walk · 23:04 long · legal
  7. ▶ 1:44:24Trails, stewardship plan, Open Meeting Lawinformational · 8:39 long · legal
  8. ▶ 1:54:06Pond herbicide order extensionvoted · 8:23 long
  9. ▶ 2:02:29Minutes, reports, adjournmentvoted · 12:21 long · legal

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote outcomes were not stated in the captions.
  • Several stretches around 6783 to 6850 and 7741 to 7900 are garbled.

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