What was said

Conservation Commission, April 15, 2020

the recording · 5:06 long, about 37,276 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:55:33The commission voted 6-1 for a positive determination on the DPW fuel tank replacement at 520 Chase Road, so a full notice of intent is required.
  2. ▶ 2:07:38A straw poll showed a majority would consider the proposed tank location if properly designed; the Mopus Brook crossing repair is to join the same notice of intent.
  3. ▶ 4:47:41On the 179-183 Island Road enforcement case, the owner consented to an existing-conditions survey and restoration plan; fines were tabled until review on May 6.
  4. ▶ 2:49:43The commission approved septic and driveway filings at 120 Sunset Lane, 12 Pine Acres and 335 Chase Road, and continued 11 Willow Circle and the DPW culvert filing to May 6.
  5. ▶ 4:57:14A certified demand letter will go to the owner of 164 Page Street to remove a trailer from the 30 foot no touch zone by May 6 or face fines.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The DPW fuel tank sits near Mopus Brook, and the notice of intent means a fuller wetlands review before the town builds it, which affects the timing and cost of a town-funded project.
  • The Island Road and Page Street cases show how the commission enforces the 30 and 50 foot buffer zones, which protect the lake and apply to any lakeside property owner.

Watch next

  • May 6: continued hearings on 11 Willow Circle and the DPW culverts at Sunset Lane and Northfield Road, review of the Island Road restoration plan, and the 164 Page Street trailer deadline.
  • A written status from DPW on the Sunset Lane and Northfield Road culverts, which the chair will request before May 6.

grantslegalplanning and zoningpublic commentroads and dpwtown departments

Present: Richard bur (chair); Todd DWI (member); Bob peas (member); Katie Childs (member); Carl luck (member); Jack Rabbit (member); Ken Jones (member); Matt Maro (conservation agent). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 26:12Accept the field change to the Hickory Hills water quality testing procedures as presented. — moved by Bob peas, as heardpassed 7-0
  2. ▶ 35:11Approve the septic upgrade application at 120 Sunset Lane as presented. — moved by Todd dwire, as heardpassed 7-0
  3. ▶ 36:31Authorize the agent to sign the order of conditions for 120 Sunset Lane. — moved by Todd dwire, as heardpassed 7-0
  4. ▶ 47:37Continue 11 Willow Circle to May 6. — moved by Todd wire, as heardpassed 7-0
  5. ▶ 54:54Approve the septic replacement at 12 Pine Acres under the local bylaw. — moved by Todd dwire, as heardpassed 7-0
  6. ▶ 1:55:33Make a positive determination on the DPW fuel tank RDA at 520 Chase Road, requiring a notice of intent. — moved by Carl luck, as heardpassed 6-1 (Ken Jones no)
  7. ▶ 2:38:53Approve the common driveway at 335 Chase Road with boulders every 20 feet along the 50 foot line and revegetation with an agreed seed mix. — moved by Ken Jones, as heardpassed 7-0
  8. ▶ 2:44:46Approve 335 Chase Road Lot 2 with rip rap added at the drain outlet. — moved by Jack Rabbit, as heardpassed
  9. ▶ 2:48:40Approve 335 Chase Road Lot 3 with the same boulder and seed mix conditions. — moved by Jack Rabbit, as heardpassed 7-0
  10. ▶ 2:49:43Authorize the agent to sign the orders of conditions for the three 335 Chase Road filings.passed 7-0
  11. ▶ 3:01:46Approve the 1325 Mass Ave earth removal and stormwater filing as submitted.passed
  12. ▶ 3:02:29Authorize the agent to sign the order of conditions for 1325 Mass Ave.passed
  13. ▶ 3:06:01Continue the DPW culvert notice of intent for Sunset Lane and Northfield Road to May 6. — moved by Carl luck, as heardpassed
  14. ▶ 3:45:15Approve the field change for 15 Cliff View deck post repair. — moved by Bob peas, as heardpassed (Todd abstained)
  15. ▶ 4:57:14Send a certified demand letter to the owner of 164 Page Street to remove the trailer from the 30 foot no touch zone by May 6 or face fines. — moved by Carl luck, as heardpassed

And 1 procedural: adjourn. (▶ 5:06:17).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 12 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 6 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differs11 Willow Circle continuance▶ 47:37

    recording Continue 11 Willow Circle to May 6. — passed 7-0

    town’s minutes “the hearing was continued by a motion of td and a second by jr and a unanimous roll call vote to approve the motion.”

    Official minutes give no continuance date; check the recording to confirm May 6.

  2. differs12 Pine Acres septic vs 12 Pine St. order▶ 54:54

    recording Approve the septic replacement at 12 Pine Acres under the local bylaw. — passed 7-0

    town’s minutes “td move to approve an order of conditions. cc seconded and the commission approved the motion by unanimous roll call vote.”

    Address differs (Pine Acres vs Pine St.) and ours says local bylaw; check whether this is the same item and the type of approval.

  3. differs335 Chase Road common driveway conditions▶ 2:38:53

    recording Approve the common driveway at 335 Chase Road with boulders every 20 feet along the 50 foot line and revegetation with an agreed seed mix. — passed 7-0

    town’s minutes “by kj and a second by bp the roll call vote was unanimous to approve.”

    Official summary says boulders in the 50 foot zone and stabilization to be determined by the administrator; ours says boulders every 20 feet and an agreed seed mix. Check the conditions actually voted.

  4. differs164 Page Street enforcement action▶ 4:57:14

    recording Send a certified demand letter to the owner of 164 Page Street to remove the trailer from the 30 foot no touch zone by May 6 or face fines. — passed

    town’s minutes “mm to send out an administrative notice by a motion of cl and a second by td.”

    Official describes an administrative notice by certified mail with no trailer, deadline or fines; check the motion's content.

  5. differsApril 1 minutes▶ 5:03:50

    recording April 1 minutes not approved pending revisions.

    town’s minutes “action was delayed until the may 6 meeting to allow mm to make amendments to the draft minutes”

    Broadly consistent (deferred), but check whether a vote was taken or the item was only delayed.

  6. differsIsland Road enforcement direction▶ 4:47:41

    recording Agent to send instructions to the engineer for an existing-conditions survey and restoration plan for 179-183 Island Road; the owner consented and will install silt fence.

    town’s minutes “consented to allow mm to contact survey”

    Official also says the commission agreed with re-staking the wetland; check whether silt fence vs wattles and the restoration plan match.

In one record only: 6 from the recording, 0 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — DPW fuel tank state earmark figure: DPW fuel tank replacement state earmark: 16 $5,000 ▶ 1:36:07
  • Recording only — Enforcement fines: Enforcement fines: $300 daily per violation ▶ 4:54:04
  • Recording only — Straw poll on fuel tank location: Straw poll showed a majority would consider the proposed fuel tank location if properly designed; the DPW was told to proceed with a notice of intent. ▶ 2:07:38
  • Recording only — Mopus Brook crossing in same NOI: The Mopus Brook crossing repair is to be included in the same notice of intent, with any emergency work documented. ▶ 2:09:05
  • Recording only — Chair to email DPW on culverts: The chair will email DPW for a written status on the Sunset Lane and Northfield Road culverts before May 6. ▶ 3:04:58
  • Recording only — Island Road fines tabled: Fines at Island Road were tabled; work is to wait for the plan to be reviewed on May 6. ▶ 4:55:04

Compared 2026-11-04. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:36:07DPW fuel tank replacement state earmark

    The DPW director said the state earmark for the tank project is now understood not to expire June 30, easing time pressure.

    as heard:16 $5,000

  2. ▶ 1:00:54Fuel tank project funding

    The engineer said town funding for the project has to be used by a certain date.

  3. ▶ 4:54:04Enforcement fines

    The chair said local regulations allow daily fines per violation, though no fines were moved.

    as heard:$300 daily per violation

  4. ▶ 22:25Hickory Hills lab testing

    The lake association said lab analysis is the biggest expense of the new testing plan, and equipment must be purchased.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 46:53Agent and a couple of members will do a site walk at 11 Willow Circle Saturday at 9 am.
  • ▶ 2:07:38Straw poll showed a majority would consider the proposed fuel tank location if properly designed; the DPW was told to proceed with a notice of intent.
  • ▶ 2:09:05The Mopus Brook crossing repair is to be included in the same notice of intent, with any emergency work documented.
  • ▶ 3:04:58The chair will email DPW for a written status on the Sunset Lane and Northfield Road culverts before May 6.
  • ▶ 4:47:41Agent to send instructions to the engineer for an existing-conditions survey and restoration plan for 179-183 Island Road; the owner consented and will install silt fence.
  • ▶ 4:55:04Fines at Island Road were tabled; work is to wait for the plan to be reviewed on May 6.
  • ▶ 5:03:50April 1 minutes not approved pending revisions.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed chris anderson appeared before the commission with the revised site plan., with nothing under it.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Revised site plan (Wilbur Abbott III, 335 Chase Road)
  • Current OOC (Hickory Hills field change)
  • Draft minutes of April 1, 2020
  • MEPA certificate, issued April 10, 2020 (Dan & Jean Proctor)
  • Ortho photo of Amy Aker's property
  • Lunenburg GIS website
  • Photos of the Island Road site taken by JR
  • Plans approved in May 2019 (Island Road)
  • Email from meeting with Adam Costa
  • NON to owner of 9 Valley Road (retroactive RDA by April 30, 2020)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 7:45Land Management planreport, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 17:29Hickory Hills presentation slidespresentation, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Current OOC (Hickory Hills field change)”)
  • ▶ 29:26120 Sunset Lane planplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 57:22DPW fueling plansplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:52:12MEPA certificatereport· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“MEPA certificate, issued April 10, 2020 (Dan & Jean Proctor)”)
  • ▶ 3:48:01Enforcement reportreport, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 5:03:08Minutes of April 1prior minutes· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Draft minutes of April 1, 2020”)

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 1:34:01Commended the commission on the DPW fuel tank proximity to the brook, asked about grant money versus tank removal cost, asked for a professional site review of alternative locations, and said the town should not be in the fuel storage business. — Dave pasio, as heard, resident, 56 Whiting Street
  2. ▶ 4:37:33Paula said upstream homes cannot get boats out because of fill in the channel and asked for silt fence in front of the straw waddle at Island Road. — a speaker, resident
  3. ▶ 4:39:15Joan P raised concern about sediment and nutrient runoff into the lake and urged prompt revegetation of the 30 and 50 foot zones.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Remote meeting notices, roll callinformational · 4:56 long
  2. ▶ 4:56994 Northfield Road land acquisition updateinformational · 11:10 long · grants, planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 16:06Hickory Hills lake water quality testing field changevoted · 12:34 long · planning and zoning, grants
  4. ▶ 28:40120 Sunset Lane septic upgradevoted · 8:50 long · planning and zoning, public safety
  5. ▶ 37:3011 Willow Circle tree removalvoted · 11:20 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 48:5012 Pine Acres septicvoted · 6:48 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 55:38DPW fuel tank replacement at 520 Chase Roadvoted · 1:16:02 long · roads and dpw, town departments, planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 2:11:40335 Chase Road common driveway and lotsvoted · 38:46 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 2:50:261325 Mass Ave earth removalvoted · 12:47 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 3:03:13DPW culverts at Sunset Lane and Northfield Roadvoted · 3:32 long · roads and dpw
  11. ▶ 3:06:4551 Fire Road 12 retaining wallreferred · 5:21 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 3:12:06238 Fire Road 16 informal discussioninformational · 27:29 long · planning and zoning
  13. ▶ 3:39:3515 Cliff View field changevoted · 7:16 long · planning and zoning
  14. ▶ 3:46:51179-183 Island Road enforcementno resolution · 1:08:35 long · legal, planning and zoning, public comment
  15. ▶ 4:55:26Enforcement, trails, policy, minutes, agent report, adjournmentvoted · 11:12 long · legal, planning and zoning

What the captions could not carry

  • Whether the roll call for the 164 Page Street and Hickory Hills motions, and some others, was complete is unclear.
  • The 335 Chase Road Lot 2 and the 1325 Mass Ave votes did not give a full count.
  • Katie Childs left partway through; the exact point is unclear.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 1:22:46DPW fuel tank replacementWhat will replacing the DPW's fuel tanks cost and how is it funded?

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