What was said

Conservation Commission, July 1, 2020

the recording · 4:51 long, about 35,120 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 2:21:26The Conservation Commission approved the DPW culvert and fuel station notice of intent 7-0 with a standard order of conditions, after an amendment on spill plan review failed.
  2. ▶ 1:53:03An amendment to require review of the spill response plan before startup failed, and a separate amendment for a three-party sit-down before startup also failed.
  3. ▶ 1:22:48A garage RDA at 161 Reservoir Road received a positive determination on a 4-3 vote, so a notice of intent is required.
  4. ▶ 4:20:15The Commission voted 5-0 to issue the Town a cease and desist at Fire Road 12 and to restore pre-asphalt conditions.
  5. ▶ 57:59Several hearings, including 135 Gilcrest, Townsend Harbor Road and 932 Flat Hill Road, were continued to July 15.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The DPW fuel station was approved without a condition requiring review of its spill response plan, so protection of nearby wetlands rests on the standard conditions and on the plan as presented.
  • The cease and desist against the Town at Fire Road 12 shows that Town projects are held to the same wetlands rules as private property owners.

Watch next

  • The July 15 Commission meeting, where the continued hearings return.
  • The violation letter template, which the agent is to bring back at the next meeting.

legalplanning and zoningpolicypublic commentpublic safetyroads and dpwtown departments

Present: Bob Peas (chair); Richard Burch (member); Katie Charles (member); Todd DWI (member); Ken Jones (member); Carl Luck (member); Jack Rabbit (member); Matthew Marrow (conservation administrator); Chief Sullivan (fire chief); Brian (presenter (DPW project engineer)); Dan Canada (presenter (VHB)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 44:51Accept the Lake Shirley Improvement Corp annual plan presentationpassed (one abstention)
  2. ▶ 57:59Continue the 135 Gilcrest RDA hearing to July 15passed 6-1
  3. ▶ 1:08:28Continue the Townsend Harbor Road sand RDA to July 15 — moved by Jack Rabbit, as heardpassed 7-0
  4. ▶ 1:20:18Approve and close the 161 Reservoir Road garage RDA — moved by Ken Jones, as heardfailed 3-4
  5. ▶ 1:22:48Issue a positive determination on the 161 Reservoir Road RDA, requiring a notice of intentpassed 4-3
  6. ▶ 1:53:03Approve the DPW notice of intent with amendment requiring spill plan review before startup — moved by Jack Rabbit, as heardfailed (two yes, others no)
  7. ▶ 2:20:21Amendment adding a three-party sit-down before startup — moved by Jack Rabbit, as heardfailed
  8. ▶ 2:21:26Approve DPW plans as presented with a standard order of conditions — moved by Ken Jones, as heardpassed 7-0
  9. ▶ 2:33:47Approve the Pleasant Street bridge maintenance notice of intentpassed
  10. ▶ 2:44:22Approve 44 foot dock at 392 Sunset Lane with a finding of no impact — moved by Jack Rabbit, as heardpassed 4-2 (one recused)
  11. ▶ 2:52:41Negative determination for the pool at 155 Reservoir Road, plan to be signed and datedpassed 7-0
  12. ▶ 3:15:46Negative determination on the 932 Flat Hill Road RDA with agent documenting site conditions — moved by Ken Jones, as heardfailed
  13. ▶ 3:31:19Continue the Flat Hill Road hearing to July 15passed 6-1
  14. ▶ 4:20:15Issue the Town a cease and desist on Fire Road 12 and restore pre-asphalt conditions — moved by Richard Burch, as heardpassed 5-0

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 4:51:02).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 14 agree, 9 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 5 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsReservoir Road garage RDA: motion to approve/close vs negative determination▶ 1:20:18

    recording Approve and close the 161 Reservoir Road garage RDA — failed 3-4

    town’s minutes “kj indicated the same feelings as bp and moved to approve a negative determination pending the signing of the plans kj, cc and bp voted in favor.”

    Both show 3 in favor and it failed in effect; address (161 vs 181) and the motion described (close vs negative determination) differ, and official gives no outcome. Check the address and motion wording.

  2. differsDPW NOI motion with amendment requiring plan review▶ 1:53:03

    recording Approve the DPW notice of intent with amendment requiring spill plan review before startup — failed (two yes, others no)

    town’s minutes “in favor of the motion was cl and jr against was rb, bp, cc, td and kj.”

    Both show 2-5 failure, but official frames the original motion as an Order of Conditions with a safety/response plan condition, and the failed vote as on JR's amended motion. Check the motion being voted.

  3. differs392 Sunset Lane dock approval▶ 2:44:22

    recording Approve 44 foot dock at 392 Sunset Lane with a finding of no impact — passed 4-2 (one recused)

    town’s minutes “jr moved to issue a negative determination. kj seconded and the commission approved the motion by a vote of rb, cc, kj and”

    Both are 4-2 passes, but ours describes an approval of a dock with a finding of no impact and a recusal; the official's text is cut off and mentions no recusal. Check the vote record and recusal.

  4. differsContinue Flat Hill Road hearing to July 15 vote count▶ 3:31:19

    recording Continue the Flat Hill Road hearing to July 15 — passed 6-1

    town’s minutes “the motion was approved by a yes vote by rb, cc, cl and jr and no by kj and td.”

    Our record says 6-1; official says 4-2. Check the roll call.

  5. differsFire Road cease and desist vote▶ 4:20:15

    recording Issue the Town a cease and desist on Fire Road 12 and restore pre-asphalt conditions — passed 5-0

    town’s minutes “rb motioned to issue a cease and desist with restoration of the asphalt.”

    Official gives the motion but no vote or outcome. Later official note says BP and MM will discuss with Town counsel. Check whether it was voted and the count.

9 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Address of Reservoir Road RDA positive determination:Issue a positive determination on the 161 Reservoir Road RDA, requiring a notice of intent — passed 4-3→181 Reservoir Road▶ 1:22:48
  • Chair name:Bob Peas (chair)→Bob Pease▶ 0:00
  • Member name Richard Burch:Richard Burch (member)→Richard Bursch▶ 0:00
  • Member name Katie Charles:Katie Charles (member)→Catie Childs▶ 0:00
  • Member name Todd DWI:Todd DWI (member)→Todd Dwyer▶ 0:00
  • Member name Jack Rabbit:Jack Rabbit (member)→Jack Rabbitt▶ 0:00
  • Conservation administrator name:Matthew Marrow (conservation administrator)→Matthew S. Marro▶ 0:00
  • VHB presenter name:Dan Canada (presenter (VHB))→Dan Cannata▶ 0:00
  • DPW presenter Brian:Brian (presenter (DPW project engineer))→Brian Marchetti▶ 0:00
In one record only: 1 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — 232 Burdge and 400 Electric Ave scheduled for first August meeting: 232 Burdge and 400 Electric Ave to be scheduled for the first August meeting. ▶ 4:23:02
  • Town’s minutes only — Office reopening progress report approval: “the motion was approve unanimously.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Minutes of June 3 and June 17 deferred: “minutes distrusted and will be voted on at the next meeting.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Sunset Lane abutter notification check: “mm noted he would check on the notification and seek to clarify for future reference.”
  • Town’s minutes only — 1275 Mass Ave enforcement: “and will pursue further enforcement action”

Compared 2026-11-03. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

Nothing touching money was heard beyond the transfers.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 21:39Lake Shirley herbicide treatment tentatively scheduled for July 16 with a Clipper pilot cove.
  • ▶ 4:01:20The 99 Ruth Street representative will file a notice of intent for the path, stairs and dock, while the restoration RDA proceeds.
  • ▶ 4:10:05The Brook Avenue owner to file a notice of intent for the handicap path, with tree removal addressed in it.
  • ▶ 4:46:24Violation letter template to be reviewed by the agent and brought back at the next meeting.
  • ▶ 4:23:02232 Burdge and 400 Electric Ave to be scheduled for the first August meeting.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Plans enclosed by the applicant (135 Gilchrest St RDA)
  • Plan on the cloud (Townsend Harbor Road beach sand)
  • 72 Hemlock map with tree plantings, species and signature
  • LSIC data tables and treatment maps (annual treatment plan)
  • Data table showing site visit results (Sunset Lane RDA)
  • Project file description with the NOI (DPW)
  • Operation, safety and maintenance manual (DPW)
  • SPCC plan (DPW)
  • Narrative on the riverfront (181 Reservoir Road)
  • Draft violation letter template
  • Minutes of June 3 and June 17, 2020

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 15:50proposed treatment areas mapplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“LSIC data tables and treatment maps (annual treatment plan)”)
  • ▶ 29:40the data tablespreadsheet, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“LSIC data tables and treatment maps (annual treatment plan)”)
  • ▶ 1:15:43the memo on riverfront and 10%memo· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Narrative on the riverfront (181 Reservoir Road)”)
  • ▶ 4:27:20draft violation letter templatedraft policy or bylaw, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Draft violation letter template”)
  • ▶ 1:29:55WPA form 3application or permit, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 1:49:34Spill response plan for DPW fuel facility should be a living document with involvement of responders — a speaker, resident of Woburn with mother in Lunenburg; former state environmental regulator
  2. ▶ 1:52:01Supports making the spill plan a condition and having the commission work with emergency responders — Angela chaby, as heard, Leominster city employee, 42 Willow Street
  3. ▶ 2:27:53Questions on Pleasant Street bridge wing wall crack repair, work from the stream bed and vegetation — a speaker, resident (mother's property abuts)
  4. ▶ 2:46:08Lake Shirley Improvement Corp never received abutter notification on the dock RDA — a speaker, Lake Shirley improvement representative
  5. ▶ 4:03:29Homeowner apologizes for trees cut before approval at Hickory Hills; wants wheelchair access path — a speaker, homeowner, 32 Brook Avenue

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Call to order, roll call, commissioner commentsinformational · 8:23 long
  2. ▶ 8:23Lake Shirley annual weed management plan and Clipper pilotvoted, accepted · 37:32 long · recreation
  3. ▶ 46:17135 Gilcrest garage RDAcontinued to July 15 · 12:46 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 59:03Townsend Harbor Road sand RDAcontinued to July 15 · 11:35 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 1:10:38161 Reservoir Road garage RDApositive determination, notice of intent required · 15:48 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 1:26:26DPW culvert and fuel station notice of intentapproved with standard conditions · 56:47 long · roads and dpw, public safety, town departments
  7. ▶ 2:23:13Pleasant Street bridge maintenanceapproved · 11:42 long · roads and dpw
  8. ▶ 2:34:55392 Sunset Lane dockapproved · 12:58 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 2:47:53155 Reservoir Road poolnegative determination · 5:34 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 2:53:27932 Flat Hill Road wall and driveway RDAcontinued to July 15 · 40:53 long · planning and zoning, legal
  11. ▶ 3:34:33Enforcement: 99 Ruth Street, 83 Island Road, 32 Brook Avenueinformational, notices of intent to be filed · 41:28 long · legal
  12. ▶ 4:16:01Fire Road 12 enforcement and other violationsvoted cease order · 9:36 long · legal, town departments
  13. ▶ 4:25:37Draft violation letter templateagent to review and report back · 21:07 long · legal, policy
  14. ▶ 4:46:44Office reopening, updates, adjournmentadjourned · 5:00 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Roll call counts for several votes are partly muted or garbled.
  • Whether Todd DWI voted on the Lake Shirley acceptance is unclear.
  • Address numbers are inconsistent in captions (135 Gilcrest, 326 vs 362 Townsend Harbor, 161 vs 181 Reservoir).
  • Exact tallies of the Fire Road 12 vote and the adjournment roll call are unclear.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 4:16:01Conservation land encroachmentsWhat enforcement is being taken over the Town's own asphalt and parking in the buffer zone at Fire Road 12?

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