What was said

Conservation Commission, September 2, 2020

the recording · 3:29 long, about 26,301 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 22:31The Conservation Commission approved Hickory Hills' request to start its dam drawdown early for concrete and sluice repairs, 6-0 by roll call.
  2. ▶ 3:02:40The commission voted to support the town buying 250 Howard Street and forwarded the vote to the selectmen; funding was left to them.
  3. ▶ 2:34:57The 238 Fire Road 16 hearing was continued to September 16, with a site walk planned for the Saturday before.
  4. ▶ 1:18:56The commission approved the Blood pool and garage notice of intent with conditions on backwash plumbing, pool drainage and cleanup.
  5. ▶ 53:18The 99 Roost Street hearing and two dock hearings were continued; the chair was authorized to pursue Stagecoach Road clearing and parking with town counsel.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The Howard Street vote starts a possible town purchase that would draw on the conservation trust fund, grants or the town budget, mostly taxes, so residents may be asked to vote on funding.
  • The early drawdown and dam repairs change lake water levels at Hickory Hills for abutters and lake users, and several pending hearings could set rules for shoreline docks and floodplain building.

Watch next

  • September 16 meeting: continued hearings for 99 Roost Street, the dock/stairs matter and 238 Fire Road 16, plus ratification of the emergency tree-removal permits.
  • The Brewster/O'Brien deed restriction language, passed to town counsel, and the selectmen's handling of the 250 Howard Street purchase.

legalplanning and zoningpublic comment

Present: bob pease (chair); ken jones (member); rich burch (member); katie childs (member); carl luck (member); jack rabbit (member); todd dwyer (member); matt (conservation agent). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 22:31Approve Hickory Hills' request for an earlier drawdown start, as slowly as possible and starting as soon as possiblepassed 6-0 by roll call (member roll call heard)
  2. ▶ 53:18Continue the 99 Roost Street hearing to September 16passed by roll call, all members heard voting aye
  3. ▶ 53:39Continue the second dock/stairs hearing to September 16passed by roll call (roll call heard, results all aye)
  4. ▶ 1:06:47Continue the 362 Thompson Harbor Road dock hearingpassed by roll call, all aye
  5. ▶ 1:18:56Approve the Blood notice of intent with a hard-plumbed backwash line to the drainage trench, pool drainage directed to the trench, and cleanup of disturbed areas by end of Septemberpassed by roll call, all aye
  6. ▶ 2:34:57Continue the 238 Fire Road 16 hearing to September 16passed by roll call, aye votes heard from the members present
  7. ▶ 3:02:40Support the town purchasing 250 Howard Street and forward to the selectmenpassed by roll call, all aye
  8. ▶ 3:12:54Authorize the chair to pursue the Stagecoach Road clearing and parking with town counsel and Sethpassed by roll call, aye votes heard

And 2 procedural: approve the july 1 and july 15 minutes (▶ 3:04:26); adjourn (▶ 3:28:24).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 3 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsStagecoach Road motion▶ 3:12:54

    recording Authorize the chair to pursue the Stagecoach Road clearing and parking with town counsel and Seth — passed by roll call, aye votes heard

    town’s minutes “a motion was made by rb and a second by kj to authorize bp to work with town counsel to have a volunteer help the commission with labor to perform some cleanup work”

    Both authorize the chair to work with town counsel, but the scope differs (clearing and parking vs a volunteer for cleanup labor), and the official minutes record no vote result. Check the recording and the motion wording.

  2. differsVote to support town purchase of 250 Howard Street▶ 3:02:40

    recording Support the town purchasing 250 Howard Street and forward to the selectmen — passed by roll call, all aye

    town’s minutes —

    The official minutes record no vote on the 250 Howard Street purchase. Check whether the item was omitted or recorded elsewhere.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Attendee Richard Bursch:rich burch (member)→Richard Bursch
  • Attendee Catie Childs:katie childs (member)→Catie Childs
  • Attendee Jack Rabbitt:jack rabbit (member)→Jack Rabbitt
  • Conservation agent name:matt (conservation agent)→Matthew S. Marro
In one record only: 9 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — 99 Roost Street hearing continuance to Sept 16: Continue the 99 Roost Street hearing to September 16 — passed by roll call, all members heard voting aye ▶ 53:18
  • Recording only — Second dock/stairs hearing continuance: Continue the second dock/stairs hearing to September 16 — passed by roll call (roll call heard, results all aye) ▶ 53:39
  • Recording only — 362 Thompson Harbor Road dock hearing continuance: Continue the 362 Thompson Harbor Road dock hearing — passed by roll call, all aye ▶ 1:06:47
  • Recording only — 238 Fire Road 16 hearing continuance: Continue the 238 Fire Road 16 hearing to September 16 — passed by roll call, aye votes heard from the members present ▶ 2:34:57
  • Recording only — Conservation trust fund figure for 250 Howard Street: Conservation trust fund for 250 Howard Street purchase: 37 000 ▶ 2:56:06
  • Recording only — 99 Roost Street agent advice: The agent advised continuing the 99 Roost Street rda and having the applicant return with an NOI status update. ▶ 1:03:21
  • Recording only — 238 Fire Road site walk: A site walk at 238 Fire Road 16 was planned for the Saturday before September 16. ▶ 2:36:02
  • Recording only — Brewster/O'Brien deed restriction: The commission agreed the Brewster/O'Brien deed restriction should bar additional alteration in the 50-foot zone, to be passed to town counsel. ▶ 2:49:11
  • Recording only — Emergency tree-removal permits: Emergency tree-removal permits on Sandy Cove Road and Peninsula Drive were left for ratification at the next meeting. ▶ 3:06:36
  • Town’s minutes only — Deferral of July 15 and August 19 minutes: “the commission deferred action until they have completed the review of the minutes”
  • Town’s minutes only — Certificates of Compliance, 675 Reservoir Road: “no action due to the commission awaiting the completed”
  • Town’s minutes only — Magurn driveway bridge crossing cost: “that the size of the expanse was cost prohibitive”
  • Town’s minutes only — Applicants and public present: “paula bertram of hickory hills landowners presented the commission with annual updates”

Compared 2026-11-03. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:56:06Conservation trust fund for 250 Howard Street purchase

    A member said the usable trust fund balance is about the stated figure, and funding for any purchase was left for the selectmen.

    as heard:37 000

  2. ▶ 3:01:16Grant funding for 250 Howard Street

    The chair said North County Land Trust knew of grants that might fund part of the purchase, not all of it.

  3. ▶ 3:12:12Gates at Stagecoach Road

    The chair said he may pay for gates at both ends of the road from his current grant.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:03:21The agent advised continuing the 99 Roost Street rda and having the applicant return with an NOI status update.
  • ▶ 2:36:02A site walk at 238 Fire Road 16 was planned for the Saturday before September 16.
  • ▶ 2:49:11The commission agreed the Brewster/O'Brien deed restriction should bar additional alteration in the 50-foot zone, to be passed to town counsel.
  • ▶ 3:06:36Emergency tree-removal permits on Sandy Cove Road and Peninsula Drive were left for ratification at the next meeting.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Request for Determination of Applicability by Gary Williams, 99 Ruth Street
  • Request for a determination by Andrew Leblanc, 362 Townsend Harbor Road
  • Notice of Intent by Jamie and Merrill Blood, 1387 Mass Ave
  • Notice of Intent by Joanne Magurn, 238 Fire Road 16
  • 61 A release request, 250 Howard Street
  • Certificates of Compliance, 675 Reservoir Road
  • Emergency Certifications for Sandy Cove Road and Peninsula Drive
  • Minutes of July 15, 2020 and August 19, 2020
  • Order of Conditions (Hickory Hills lake annual updates)
  • ESS survey report from August (compared to Aug 2018 survey)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 27:28update to conservation rev5presentation, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:42:42noi revision cover letterletter or email, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 3:04:26revised minutes of July 1 and July 15prior minutes· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Minutes of July 15, 2020 and August 19, 2020”)

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 59:33Objected during the 99 Roost Street continuance discussion, alleging stalling tactics. — john tata from flynn road, as heard, resident
  2. ▶ 56:06Asked why the 99 Roost Street hearing was being continued. — jim lavoie, as heard, resident
  3. ▶ 1:07:29Caller 9379 commented that the dock location should be resolved so the applicant does not spend money on engineering.
  4. ▶ 2:33:55Spoke in support of the 238 Fire Road 16 house project. — robert machete, as heard, abutter in Shirley

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Call to order, open meeting law notice, roll callinformational · 4:10 long
  2. ▶ 4:10Hickory Hills dam repairs and early drawdown requestvoted · 22:53 long · facilities, recreation
  3. ▶ 27:03Hickory Hills 2020 lake treatment updateinformational · 24:57 long · recreation
  4. ▶ 52:00Continued hearings: 99 Roost Street, dock stairs, 362 Thompson Harbor Roadvoted · 17:50 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 1:09:50Blood notice of intent for pool, deck and garagevoted · 19:30 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 1:29:20238 Fire Road 16 house, driveway and floodplain crossingcontinued · 1:07:03 long · planning and zoning, housing
  7. ▶ 2:36:23Enforcement: O'Brien deed restriction and remediation plandeferred to next meeting · 14:31 long · legal
  8. ▶ 2:50:54Violations list and 250 Howard Street first refusalvoted · 13:32 long · legal
  9. ▶ 3:04:26Minutes, emergency permits, Stagecoach Road, chair procedure, adjournmentvoted · 23:58 long · policy

What the captions could not carry

  • Ken Jones' audio was lost for much of the 238 Fire Road 16 discussion; he spoke by chat.
  • Exact roll-call counts are mostly not stated, and several names are garbled.
  • Whether the O'Brien documents reached the commission was unclear.

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