What was said

Conservation Commission, December 16, 2020

the recording · 4:04 long, about 29,175 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 2:11:57The commission authorized its administrator to approach a forester about forest cutting plans for the Renault and Hollis Road properties.
  2. ▶ 3:09:37Firearm hunting on conservation land was debated at length with no vote; it returns on the January 20th agenda.
  3. ▶ 52:47The commission approved a septic replacement, a wall and grading project, and a deck plan with conditions, and continued two other hearings to January 20th.
  4. ▶ 3:54:49The chair was authorized to approach town officials about a survey of the 192 Harbor Road encroachment; the commission would ask the selectmen to fund it.
  5. ▶ 3:26:24A workshop on land use regulations was tentatively set for January 6th.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Whether firearm hunting is allowed on town conservation land is still undecided, and most letters received opposed it, so residents near these parcels may want to weigh in before January 20th.
  • Forest cutting plans would fund parking and trail work from timber revenue before the town receives payment, and the encroachment survey would be asked of the selectmen, so both touch town money and public land access.

Watch next

  • January 20th meeting: firearm hunting returns to the agenda, along with continued hearings for Lot 1 Page Street, 1672 Mass Avenue and the Five Spring Street tree certification.
  • January 6th: tentative workshop on land use regulations.

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Present: bob pease (chair); ken jones (member); rich burch (member, remote); carl luck (member); jack rabbit (member); jeff viviano (member); mike larouche (associate member); matt (conservation administrator). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 25:33Negative determination for 45 Parameter Street with hay bale siltation barrier along the 30-foot buffer linepassed
  2. ▶ 32:29Approve 81 Maple Parkway septic replacement with shed outside the 50 foot zonepassed
  3. ▶ 33:54Continue Lot 1 Page Street hearing to January 20thpassed
  4. ▶ 52:47Approve 232 Bird Street wall and grading with meadow mix conditionspassed 3-2
  5. ▶ 1:25:58Continue 1672 Mass Avenue hearing to January 20thpassed
  6. ▶ 1:52:45Approve 25 Pearl Street plan with roof over deck removedpassed 4-1
  7. ▶ 1:57:00Ratify enforcement order for 90 Roost Streetpassed
  8. ▶ 2:11:57Have Matt contact forester about a forest cutting plan for the Renault property with parking, trails and bufferspassed
  9. ▶ 2:24:18Have Matt approach forester for a plan covering two bird patch cuts and road upgrades at Hollis Roadpassed
  10. ▶ 3:47:34Authorize chair to approach town official to file land transfers at registry of deedspassed
  11. ▶ 3:50:39Authorize chair to sign license for restoring northern end of old Stagecoach Roadpassed
  12. ▶ 3:54:49Authorize chair to approach town officials about a survey of 192 Harbor Road encroachmentpassed

And 5 procedural: approve minutes of october 7th (▶ 11:50); approve minutes of november 4th (▶ 12:50); approve minutes of november 18th (▶ 13:34); approve minutes of december 2nd (▶ 13:54); adjourn (▶ 4:03:08).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 6 agree, 1 caption error resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differs232 Burrage (Bird) Street order of conditions vote count▶ 52:47

    recording Approve 232 Bird Street wall and grading with meadow mix conditions — passed 3-2

    town’s minutes “the motion wa s approved by a roll call vote of rb, bp, kj, jv approving and jr and cl voting no.”

    Ours says 3-2, official says 4-2 by roll call; street name likely misheard (Bird vs Burrage). Check the roll call in the recording.

  2. differs1672 Mass Ave hearing continuation▶ 1:25:58

    recording Continue 1672 Mass Avenue hearing to January 20th — passed

    town’s minutes “the commission continued to be able to perform a site walk by a motion of rb and a second by jr”

    Both continue to Jan 20, but the official frames the motion as allowing a site walk; check the motion wording.

  3. differsSpring Street tree matter▶ 3:44:05

    recording Five Spring Street emergency tree certification continued to January 20th pending a site walk.

    town’s minutes “it was decided that a follow-up site inspection would be scheduled to determine any potential tree replacement.”

    Official gives no Jan 20 continuation and describes a follow-up inspection for replacement; check what was decided.

1 caption error the town’s minutes resolve
  • 45 Parmenter Street negative determination:Negative determination for 45 Parameter Street with hay bale siltation barrier along the 30-foot buffer line — passed→Parmenter Street▶ 25:33
In one record only: 6 from the recording, 5 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — 25 Pearl Street plan vote: Approve 25 Pearl Street plan with roof over deck removed — passed 4-1 ▶ 1:52:45
  • Recording only — 90 Roost Street enforcement order ratification: Ratify enforcement order for 90 Roost Street — passed ▶ 1:57:00
  • Recording only — Land transfers at registry of deeds: Authorize chair to approach town official to file land transfers at registry of deeds — passed ▶ 3:47:34
  • Recording only — Stagecoach Road license vote: Authorize chair to sign license for restoring northern end of old Stagecoach Road — passed ▶ 3:50:39
  • Recording only — 192 Harbor Road encroachment survey vote: Authorize chair to approach town officials about a survey of 192 Harbor Road encroachment — passed ▶ 3:54:49
  • Recording only — Encroachment survey and legal costs figure: Encroachment survey and legal costs: 15 grand ▶ 4:02:04
  • Town’s minutes only — Lot 2, 50 Page Street continuation vote: “lot 2 was continued by a motion of jv and a second by kj to the same date and time with a unanimous voted to approve the motion by r oll call vote.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Certificate of compliance for 305 Leominster Shirley Road: “mm requested the commission hold off on the issuance of the certificate until the next regular meeting”
  • Town’s minutes only — Reporting requirement in Nikitas order: “mm noted that he would write a reporting requirement into the order.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Question to Town Counsel on Ch. 40 sec 8C: “bp noted that he had forwarded the question concerning commission authority under ch. 40 sec 8 c to town”
  • Town’s minutes only — Applicants and public present: “phyllis luck read a statement to the conservation commission expressing her opposition for a change to land use policy to allow hunting.”

Compared 2026-11-03. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:08:47Forest cutting plan revenue

    Matt explained the forester's plan would pay for the parking area and trail work out of timber revenue before the town receives a check.

  2. ▶ 4:02:04Encroachment survey and legal costs

    Chair said the commission would ask the selectmen to fund the survey and that legal fees are not the commission's responsibility.

    as heard:15 grand

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 3:09:37Firearm hunting to return on the January 20th agenda after clarifying one member's position; no vote taken.
  • ▶ 3:26:24Tentatively scheduled a workshop on land use regulations for January 6th.
  • ▶ 3:44:05Five Spring Street emergency tree certification continued to January 20th pending a site walk.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Request for a determination by Jason Martin, 45 Parmenter Street
  • Notice of Intent by David and Kiley Boivin, 81 Maple Parkway
  • Notice of Intent by Jeff Stone, Lot 1, 50 Page Street
  • Notice of Intent by Jeff Stone, Lot 2, 50 Page Street
  • Notice of Intent by John Fournier, 25 Pearl Street
  • Notice of Intent by Curtis Nikitas, 232 Burrage Street
  • Notice of Intent by Jeff LaPierre, 1672 Mass Ave
  • Order of Conditions (Nikitas, 232 Burrage Street)
  • Updated plan in the file (1672 Mass Ave)
  • DEP comments
  • Letter sent to the newspaper
  • Proposed regulations for hunting with firearms (RB proposal) and narrative
  • DCR definition of passive recreation (posted)
  • List of 30 town residents (land use policy)
  • Historic orthos
  • Certificate of Compliance, 305 Leominster Shirley Road
  • Administrator's determination, 338 Sunset Lane
  • Ratification of Emergency Certification, 5 Spring Street

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 2:29:32adam costa responsesletter or email, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:28:27draft land use regulationdraft policy or bylaw, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“List of 30 town residents (land use policy)”)

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 6:58Summarized the letters received, nearly all opposing firearm hunting on conservation land over safety, noise and trust in land purchases. — a speaker, resident

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Opening, comments, roll call, public comment on huntinginformational · 11:00 long · public comment, policy
  2. ▶ 11:30Approval of minutesvoted · 3:50 long
  3. ▶ 15:2545 Parameter Street RDAvoted · 11:40 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 27:2581 Maple Parkway septic NOIvoted · 5:45 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 33:12Page Street lots continuancescontinued · 4:08 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 37:22232 Bird Street wall NOIvoted · 21:58 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 59:261672 Mass Avenue NOIcontinued · 28:34 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:28:0125 Pearl Street NOIvoted · 26:59 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:55:10Enforcement mattersvoted · 7:40 long · legal
  10. ▶ 2:02:53Renault and Hollis Road forest cutting plansvoted · 24:17 long · planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 2:27:04Land use policy and firearm huntingno resolution · 1:00:46 long · policy, public safety
  12. ▶ 3:28:10305 Leominster Shirley Road certificate of compliancecontinued · 5:50 long · planning and zoning
  13. ▶ 3:34:00Committee reports and administrator itemscontinued · 11:30 long
  14. ▶ 3:45:27Land transfers, license and Harbor Road encroachmentvoted · 17:41 long · legal, planning and zoning

What the captions could not carry

  • Some roll call responses were garbled or omitted, including some members' responses on several votes.
  • Counts for the 232 Bird Street and 25 Pearl Street votes inferred from spoken roll call, which was partly garbled.

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