What was said

Conservation Commission, January 20, 2021

the recording · 1:14 long, about 8,186 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 7:07The Conservation Commission approved a septic system notice of intent, the first of four applications it heard.
  2. ▶ 11:39It issued a negative determination for 72 Maple Parkway, amended so the existing outfall pipe is abandoned and replaced unless shown structurally sound.
  3. ▶ 21:34It approved the 120 West Street addition on condition that a plan show the 50-foot buffer as a no-disturbance zone.
  4. ▶ 22:39It continued the Fire Road hearing to February 17th and issued a certificate of compliance for the Shirley Road property.
  5. ▶ 1:11:06Members left the 26 Sunset Lane ownership request at the end of the list, and hikes by a goat-hike operator are paused until the matter returns on February 3rd.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Conditions on buffer zones and drainage pipes set what neighbors of wetlands may build or disturb, and the commission's permits are the check on that work.
  • Goat hikes on conservation land and a historic dump near a brook that runs toward the town water supply are questions of how town-owned land is used and protected.

Watch next

  • February 3rd: the goat hike request is on the commission's agenda, and hikes are paused until then.
  • February 17th: the continued Fire Road hearing.

legalplanning and zoningpolicypublic commenttown departments

Present: Bob (chair); Rich Burst (member); Katie Childs (member); Carl Luck (member); Jack Rabbit (member); Jeff Viviano (member); Matt (conservation administrator); Joe (staff handling Zoom hosting); Chris Anderson (presenter); Brian Marshetti (presenter). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 7:07Approve the notice of intent for the septic systempassed
  2. ▶ 11:39Negative determination for 72 Maple Parkway, amended so the existing 4-inch outfall pipe is abandoned and replaced unless shown structurally soundpassed
  3. ▶ 21:34Approve the 120 West Street notice of intent, with a plan showing the 50-foot buffer as a no-disturbance zonepassed
  4. ▶ 22:39Continue the Fire Road hearing to February 17thpassed
  5. ▶ 57:41Issue the certificate of compliance for 305 Limits to Shirley Roadpassed

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 1:13:18).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 5 agree, 3 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsSeptic system notice of intent approval▶ 7:07

    recording Approve the notice of intent for the septic system — passed

    town’s minutes “with no questions a motion was made to issue a standard order of conditions by jv. a second was made by cc”

    Ours does not name the property. The official minutes have two septic repairs (31 South Row Road and 33 Boutwell St); check which one this is and whether it is an Order of Conditions.

  2. differsGoat hike request▶ 1:11:06

    recording The goat hike request goes on the February 3rd agenda, and hikes are paused until then.

    town’s minutes “charging the fees would constitute a business and permission needs to be formalized and it would be taken up at the next meeting.”

    Ours says hikes are paused and names February 3rd. The official minutes mention neither a pause nor a date. Check the recording.

  3. differsCadre lot parcel by tax title▶ 1:06:08

    recording The chair will ask the tax collector to take the parcel in the Cadre lot by tax title, with no vote needed.

    town’s minutes “bp asked the town to consider retaking the parcel.”

    Both involve the chair and a Cowdery parcel, but the mechanisms differ. Ours says tax title through the tax collector. The official minutes say a 1955 taking was never executed and should be retaken. Check the recording.

3 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Certificate of compliance for 305 Leominster Shirley Road:Issue the certificate of compliance for 305 Limits to Shirley Road — passed→305 Leominster Shirley Road▶ 57:41
  • Lannister/Leominster Road dump site visit:The Lannister Road dump will be added to the site visit list for the next meeting.→Leominster Road▶ 26:08
  • Attendee Brian Marshetti:Brian Marshetti (presenter)→Brian Marchetti
In one record only: 0 from the recording, 10 from the town’s minutes
  • Town’s minutes only — Continue revisions to land use policy hearing: “the hearing was unanimously continued until february 17, 2020 on a motion by kj seconded by jr.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Order of Conditions, Jeff Stone Lot 1, 50 Page Street: “a motion was made by jr to issue an orde r of conditions with the added condition that the debris if shown to be on the property shall be removed.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Order of Conditions, Jeff Stone Lot 2, 50 Page Street: “rb moved to issue an order of conditions based on the submitted plans. cl seconded and the commission approved the motion by unanimous roll call vote.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Order of Conditions, LaPierre, 1672 Mass Ave: “a motion to approve an order of conditions with the modification to the driveway by the creation of a berm along the edge of the property”
  • Town’s minutes only — Oldham request for determination continued, 32 Pine Grove Road: “jr motioned to continue to the february 3, 23021 meeting at 7 pm. cl seconded and the commission voted unanimously to approve the motion by roll call vote.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Order of Conditions, Price, 33 Boutwell St (CL abstained): “rb moved to issue a standard order of conditions. cc seconded and the commission unanimously approved the motion with the exception of cl who abstained.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Hickory Hills Lake extension item: “is leaving it on the agenda until such time as the state lists it”
  • Town’s minutes only — 48 Oak Ridge Road enforcement order: “48 oak ridge road- eo issued to be on the next agenda”
  • Town’s minutes only — Small encampments visit: “jr noted an area of small encampments that they will take mm to go and see.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Kenneth Jones attendance (left at 8 pm): “called to order at 7 pm by bp all members in attendance except kj who was present from 7 pm to 8 pm and had to excuse himself from the remainder of the meeting.”

Compared 2026-11-03. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

Nothing touching money was heard beyond the transfers.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 26:08The Lannister Road dump will be added to the site visit list for the next meeting.
  • ▶ 49:19Members agreed not to take up 26 Sunset Lane now, leaving it at the end of the list of ownership matters.
  • ▶ 1:11:06The goat hike request goes on the February 3rd agenda, and hikes are paused until then.
  • ▶ 1:06:08The chair will ask the tax collector to take the parcel in the Cadre lot by tax title, with no vote needed.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Submitted updated plan (Jeff Stone, Lot 2 50 Page Street)
  • Original plans submitted (120 West Street)
  • Engineers report and plan (305 Leominster Shirley Road)
  • Pictures taken of site (305 Leominster Shirley Road)
  • Assessors map (26 Sunset Lane)
  • Deed for 26 Sunset Lane (original transfer from Eva Carter)
  • Town Counsel questions and answers

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 14:33the plan for 120 West Streetplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Original plans submitted (120 West Street)”)
  • ▶ 36:55assessor's map and assessment cardplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Assessors map (26 Sunset Lane)”)
  • ▶ 39:23the 1967 deedcontract or agreement· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 56:38site photosother, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Pictures taken of site (305 Leominster Shirley Road)”)
  • ▶ 1:02:13chair's questions and answers with town counselmemo· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Town Counsel questions and answers”)

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 27:54A resident who raised the dump at town meeting said it is large and historic, and its bottom sits in the brook that runs toward the town water supply.
  2. ▶ 1:08:15Tammy Hebert asked about goat hikes in the Laurel Bank conservation area after a letter said they must stop without permission. — a speaker, small business owner

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:14Zoom hosting and recording problemsinformational · 5:26 long
  2. ▶ 5:42Septic system notice of intentvoted · 2:08 long · planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 7:5072 Maple Parkway septic repairvoted · 6:20 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 14:10120 West Street additionvoted · 8:07 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 22:17Fire Road hearing continuedvoted · 1:25 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 24:02Violations and enforcement updatesinformational · 11:30 long · legal
  7. ▶ 35:3226 Sunset Lane ownership requestno resolution, deferred · 17:02 long · legal, planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 52:34Certificate of compliance, Shirley Roadvoted · 6:14 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 58:48Extension permits and administrator and chair communicationsinformational · 9:27 long · legal
  10. ▶ 1:08:15Goat hikes on conservation landreferred · 5:03 long · public comment, policy
  11. ▶ 1:13:18Adjournmentvoted · 0:43 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Chair's name is not stated; captions render it as Bob.
  • Spelling of several place names, such as Lannister Road and Fire Road, is uncertain.
  • The 26 Sunset Lane discussion is partly garbled around the right-of-way geometry.

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