What was said

Conservation Commission, February 17, 2021

the recording · 4:08 long, about 30,223 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published an agenda for this meeting. No minutes have been published; the recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.

The short version

  1. ▶ 2:30:16The commission voted 4-3 to continue the land use hearing to March 17 and to post all letters received on its website.
  2. ▶ 6:39The hearing drew a long public forum on opening more conservation land to firearm hunting, plus snowmobile access and firearm carry; no vote was taken on the regulations.
  3. ▶ 3:44:04The commission voted to accept a gift of parcel B from PSG Realty LLC (Bright Farms), subject to select board approval.
  4. ▶ 3:02:47It approved a driveway at 36 Cushing Lane and septic repair plans at Thompson Harbor, and continued the Wu, Proctor Masonry and Northfield Associates filings.
  5. ▶ 3:47:37The chair proposed a workshop on the regulations at the next meeting, with members to submit specific language; the meeting ended in executive session on litigation.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The rules for who may carry firearms and hunt on town conservation land, and on which parcels, have not been decided, so residents who use those trails still have a hearing to attend or write to.
  • Posting the letters means the written comments become public record, so residents can read what others sent before the hearing resumes.
  • The land gift still needs select board approval, so the town does not yet hold the parcel.

Watch next

  • Continued land use regulations hearing on March 17, with a workshop on the regulations planned beforehand.
  • Select board approval of the Bright Farms land gift, which the commission's acceptance depends on.

legalplanning and zoningpolicypublic commentrecreation

Present: Bob Pisa (Bursch?) (chair); Ken Jones (member); Rich Birch / Bursch (member); Katie Childs (member); Carl Luck (member); Jack Rabbit (member); Jeff Viviano (member); Mike Larouche (associate member); Matt (conservation administrator). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 2:30:16Continue the land use hearing until March 17 and post all communications received on the commission website — moved by Carl Luck, as heardpassed 4-3
  2. ▶ 2:37:57Continue the Wu notice of intent, 12 Fire Roadpassed
  3. ▶ 2:52:20Continue Proctor Masonry hearing, 203 Fire Road 16, amended to March 17passed
  4. ▶ 3:02:47Approve notice of intent for 36 Cushing Lane driveway, with gravel condition in bufferpassed
  5. ▶ 3:07:04Approve septic repair plans at 224 Thompson Harborpassed
  6. ▶ 3:33:21Continue Northfield Associates Lot 1 hearing to March 3passed
  7. ▶ 3:37:55Continue Northfield Associates Lot 2 hearing to March 3passed
  8. ▶ 3:44:04Accept gift of parcel B from PSG Realty LLC (Bright Farms), subject to select board approvalpassed
  9. ▶ 3:47:15Approve administrator's determination, Fire Road 98/12passed

And 3 procedural: approve minutes of january 20, 2021 (▶ 5:35); approve minutes of february 3 (▶ 5:55); enter executive session on litigation strategy (192 harbor road) and adjourn afterward (▶ 4:07:08).

The money

  1. ▶ 50:17Land acquisition grants

    A state official and speakers discussed whether land bought with state land grants or federal land and water conservation funds must be open to hunting as passive recreation.

    as heard:50 percent

  2. ▶ 27:25Snow Riders contributions

    The snow riders club said it has donated grants and in-kind work to the town over the years.

    as heard:165 000

  3. ▶ 1:31:05Recreational trails program grant

    The chair said a grant will fund trail map signs at trailheads and intersections.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 2:29:36Chair ended the public comment; a workshop on the regulations will be scheduled.
  • ▶ 3:47:37Chair proposed a workshop on the land use regulations at the next meeting; members to submit specific language.
  • ▶ 3:39:00Remaining agenda items were skipped until the next meeting.
  • ▶ 48:54Chair said the letters would not be posted but available on request; later superseded by the motion to post them.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The town has not published minutes for this meeting.

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 6:39supporting documents for the revised land use policydraft policy or bylaw
  • ▶ 11:07slide deckpresentation
  • ▶ 3:44:04plan of land prepared for Bright Farmsplan or drawing, shown
  • ▶ 2:42:59site visit reportreport
  • ▶ 5:35minutes of January 20 and February 3prior minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 7:21Carl (a commissioner) gave comments on the hunting proposal and requested the emails be put on the record. — a speaker, commissioner
  2. ▶ 13:56Snowmobiling: supports no yearly permission for marked trails. — Ken Chenis, as heard
  3. ▶ 16:01Supports snow riders; asked about the trail stewardship team clause. — Lin-man, as heard
  4. ▶ 18:26Opposes allowing firearms to be carried on conservation land. — Carl Derner, as heard
  5. ▶ 21:52Asked that Laurel Bank be excluded from snowmobiling due to noise and smell. — Jessica Agut, as heard
  6. ▶ 24:16History of the Lunenburg Snow Riders' projects and grants for the town. — Mel Bertram, as heard
  7. ▶ 29:48Asked for the rationale for the hunting change and how public opinion bears on the decision. — Barbara Crook, as heard
  8. ▶ 31:59Supports hunting access as a compromise. — Dave McDonald, as heard
  9. ▶ 35:06Licensed hunter asking whether he can keep hunting; license fees and grant funds. — Todd Whittier, as heard
  10. ▶ 39:40Hunter supports access; cites deer population. — Chris Martens, as heard
  11. ▶ 42:48Opposes; asks that letters be made public; hunting not discussed when land was bought. — Peter Beardmore, as heard
  12. ▶ 52:01Read an email opposing carrying of firearms and expanded hunting on conservation land. — Carl Strathmeyer, as heard
  13. ▶ 57:12Opposes hunting on heavily used land such as the Lane. — Katie Adams, as heard
  14. ▶ 1:01:08Asked that Laurel Bank be excluded from snowmobile use. — Lisa Grants, as heard
  15. ▶ 1:02:57Questioned whether hunting license fees buy town land; favored town meeting. — Laura Bowsum, as heard
  16. ▶ 1:07:33Supports compromise; asks about separating firearm carry from hunting. — Carol Hatch, as heard
  17. ▶ 1:09:41Supports compromise and commission authority; explains passive recreation includes hunting. — Paula Bertram, as heard
  18. ▶ 1:13:24Abutter to Small Town Forest; concerns about parking, oversight and enforcement. — Jane Duvall, as heard
  19. ▶ 1:19:37Mass Wildlife clarified the Hunting Hills conservation restriction. — Liz Newland, as heard
  20. ▶ 1:22:31Asked about parcels near Hunting Hill, trespass onto private land and signage. — Peter Cowley, as heard
  21. ▶ 1:25:33Division of Fisheries and Wildlife on land grant requirements and Bolton Flats safety record. — Pat Huckary, as heard
  22. ▶ 1:29:00Asked about the nearby housing development and why the change. — Michelle Taylor, as heard
  23. ▶ 1:33:33Asked to defer the change until the pandemic is over. — Phyllis Luck, as heard
  24. ▶ 1:34:35Against change; suggested restructuring the text and specifying seasons. — Tom Alonzo, as heard
  25. ▶ 1:41:08Lack of transparency; wants more community education. — Susannah, as heard
  26. ▶ 1:43:34Does not want to be intimidated by guns while walking. — Tom James, as heard
  27. ▶ 1:49:50Wants a comprehensive rationale and wildlife statistics presented to the town. — Barbara Crook, as heard
  28. ▶ 1:55:56Asked for signage during shotgun season. — Andrea Laford, as heard
  29. ▶ 2:15:31Supports hunting; argues minority rights should not be put to majority vote. — Ted Turner, as heard
  30. ▶ 2:24:44Concerns about police burden, out-of-town hunters and safety. — Steve Weaver, as heard
  31. ▶ 2:29:14Asked the commission to extend the hearing for more public comment. — Tanner, as heard

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Roll call, Zoom access problems, and early public commentinformational · 5:35 long · public comment
  2. ▶ 5:35Approval of minutesvoted · 1:04 long
  3. ▶ 6:39Public hearing on revised land use regulations: firearm hunting, snowmobiles, firearm carrypublic comment taken; no vote on regulations · 2:23:37 long · policy, public comment, recreation
  4. ▶ 2:30:16Motion to continue hearing to March 17 and post letterspassed 4-3 · 7:17 long · policy, legal
  5. ▶ 2:37:33Wu and Proctor Masonry hearings, Fire Roadcontinued · 17:37 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 2:55:1036 Cushing Lane drivewayapproved · 8:22 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 3:03:32Septic repair, Thompson Harborapproved · 4:55 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 3:08:27Northfield Associates house lots 1 and 2, Gilchrist Streetcontinued to March 3 · 30:10 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 3:38:37Gift of Bright Farms landvoted to accept · 7:11 long · recreation
  10. ▶ 3:45:49Administrator's determination, Fire Roadapproved · 1:48 long
  11. ▶ 3:47:37Next steps on regulations and members' comments, including dispute over allegationsworkshop planned · 19:31 long · policy
  12. ▶ 4:07:08Executive session on litigationvoted · 1:21 long · executive session

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote counts on several continuations are only partly clear because of muted members.
  • Some speaker names and addresses are mangled in the captions.

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What changed

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