What was said
Conservation Commission, March 17, 2021
the recording · 4:41 long, about 34,753 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/conservation-commission/2021.json
The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 34:09A motion to impose a penalty for the mislocated septic holding tank at 25 Pearl Street failed on a roll call with every member voting no.
- ▶ 32:21The commission told the 25 Pearl Street applicant to file an amended notice of intent rather than treat the tank as a field change; the penalty question was deferred to that hearing.
- ▶ 2:18:08The commission voted to recommend the draft town meeting article for the local match on the Pierce agricultural preservation restriction.
- ▶ 13:58The commission approved spending up to a not-to-exceed amount from its gift fund on pollinator habitat plants and supplies, all members voting aye.
- ▶ 4:07:55Hunting, alcohol and firearm items in the land use regulations were deferred until a full board is present, and several notice-of-intent hearings were continued to April.
Why it matters — our reading
- The Pierce article asks Town Meeting to put up the town's local match toward a state agricultural preservation restriction, so residents may be asked to vote on that spending.
- Rules on hunting, alcohol and firearms on conservation land remain unsettled, so the current rules stay in place until a fuller commission acts and a revised draft is circulated.
- Because the Pearl Street penalty was deferred rather than decided, whether any fine applies will turn on the amended filing hearing.
Watch next
- April 7, 2021: continued hearings for Wu/Benjamin, Proctor Masonry, 238 Fire Road 16, 386 Sunset Lane and 757 Chase Road.
- April 21, 2021: the continued land use regulations hearing and the 137 Flynn Road hearing, with a revised draft of the regulations to be circulated beforehand.
budgetgrantslegalplanning and zoningpublic commenttown meetingwarrant article
Present: Bob Pease (chair); Ken Jones (member); Rich Bursch (member); Katie Childs (member); Carl Luck (member); Jack Rabbit (member); Mike Larouche (associate member); Matt Merrell (conservation agent/staff); Jeff Viviano (member (not seen)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 13:58Spend up to $1,000 from the gift fund for pollinator habitat plants and supplies — moved by Ken Jones, as heardpassed (roll call, all members voting aye)
- ▶ 34:09Impose a $1,000 penalty for the mislocated septic tank at 25 Pearl Street — moved by Jack Rabbit, as heardfailed (roll call, all no)
- ▶ 37:22Continue the land use regulations public hearing to April 21, 2021passed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 39:03Continue Wu/Benjamin notice of intent hearing to April 7passed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 40:06Continue Proctor Masonry notice of intent hearing to April 7passed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 1:30:38Continue the 137 Flynn Road (Richie) hearing to April 21passed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 1:36:34Revote to continue the Flynn Road hearing to April 21passed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 1:38:20Continue 238 Fire Road 16 (McGirm) hearing to April 7passed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 2:08:22Continue 386 Sunset Lane (Tremblay) hearing to April 7passed with one recusal/abstention
- ▶ 2:09:43Continue 757 Chase Road (Empire Management) hearing to April 7passed (roll call, ayes heard)
- ▶ 2:18:08Recommend the draft town meeting article for the local match on the Pierce agricultural preservation restriction move forwardpassed (roll call, ayes heard)
And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 4:40:32).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 15 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 5 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.
- differsHearing continuance votes (land use regs, Wu/Benjamin, Proctor, Flynn Road, McGirm, Tremblay, Empire Management)▶ 37:22
recording Continue the land use regulations public hearing to April 21, 2021 — passed; continue Wu/Benjamin, Proctor Masonry, 238 Fire Road 16 (McGirm), 386 Sunset Lane (Tremblay) and 757 Chase Road (Empire Management) to April 7; continue 137 Flynn Road to April 21 — passed
town’s minutes —
Our minutes record seven continuance votes and the official minutes record none (only enforcement actions continued to April 7); check the recording and whether the town omitted them or they were procedural.
recording Continue the 137 Flynn Road (Richie) hearing to April 21 — passed; revote at t=5794 to continue to April 21 — passed
town’s minutes —
Ours records a continuance to April 21 and a revote; the official minutes record no continuance for this hearing, and the date is unconfirmed (other items went to April 7). Check the recording.
recording —
town’s minutes “2.4 permits for tree stands was stated that they are not adopted as noted by kj, rb, bp and cl.”
Only the official minutes record this regulation decision; check the recording around the land-use workshop.
recording —
town’s minutes “bp indicated that cl's changes will be adopted as proposed.”
Only the official minutes record this decision; check the recording.
recording —
town’s minutes “bp indicated the proposed changes would be adopted.”
Only the official minutes record this decision; check the recording.
4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
- Pierce APR amount:Pierce APR local match: 65 000, sixty six thousand five hundred dollars, 665 000, 598,500→66,500 dollars▶ 2:15:43
- Attendee: Catie Childs:Katie Childs (member)→Catie Childs▶ 0:00
- Attendee: Jack Rabbitt:Jack Rabbit (member)→Jack Rabbitt▶ 0:00
- Attendee: conservation administrator:Matt Merrell (conservation agent/staff)→Matthew S. Marro▶ 0:00
In one record only: 3 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Septic holding tank replacement cost: Septic holding tank replacement cost: seven thousand dollars, ten thousand dollar mistake ▶ 23:05
- Recording only — Proposed penalty of $3,000 and $300 a day: Proposed penalty: three thousand dollars, one thousand dollar fine, 300 a day ▶ 34:09
- Recording only — Pollinator habitat wish list: Pollinator habitat wish list: eight hundred, a thousand, 138 dollars ▶ 10:45
- Town’s minutes only — Item 1.5 withdrawn by JR: “1.5 jr withdrew and the commission will continue to forward the current proposed.”
- Town’s minutes only — Forestry planning and enforcement items continued to April 7: “enforcement: actions continued to the april 7, 2021 meeting”
- Town’s minutes only — Presenters and applicants: “cynthia ritchie and brett ramsden were present to represent the applicant.”
Compared 2026-10-28. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 10:45Pollinator habitat wish list
The applicant estimated the total ask and a member moved funding it from the gift account.
as heard:eight hundreda thousand138 dollars
- ▶ 13:58Gift fund appropriation for habitat
Commission approved a not-to-exceed amount from its gift fund for plants and supplies.
as heard:a thousand dollars
- ▶ 12:54Donated plants
A member offered garden center plants as a donation toward the habitat.
as heard:300 worth of plants
- ▶ 23:05Septic holding tank replacement cost
The tank cost and a total replacement cost were mentioned in discussing whether to move it.
as heard:seven thousand dollarsten thousand dollar mistake
- ▶ 34:09Proposed penalty
A member proposed a fine, citing the builder's estimated relocation cost; others noted daily fine authority.
as heard:three thousand dollarsone thousand dollar fine300 a day
- ▶ 44:17Engineered survey for Flynn Road wall
The applicant faces a survey quote and the commission debated whether it should be required.
as heard:five thousand dollarstwenty thousand dollar wall
- ▶ 2:15:43Pierce APR local match
Draft article seeks a ten percent local match toward a state agricultural preservation restriction.
as heard:65 000sixty six thousand five hundred dollars665 000598,500
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 32:21The commission, by consensus without a motion, told the applicant at 25 Pearl Street to file an amended notice of intent rather than treat the tank as a field change; revegetation was favored and the penalty question deferred to that hearing.
- ▶ 1:23:38Agent to follow up with the state about the Flynn Road filing fee not showing in the database.
- ▶ 1:35:11Applicant at Flynn Road to work with the conservation agent on removal of the fallen tree.
- ▶ 2:41:37The commission will not add the land management plan consultation language to the draft regulations; the bow hunting restrictions in the two land management plans will be addressed separately.
- ▶ 3:02:01Hunting Hills language preempting the commission's regulations, as suggested by town counsel, to be incorporated into the draft.
- ▶ 4:07:55Hunting, alcohol and firearm carry items deferred until a full board is present; draft to be revised and circulated after the meeting.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.
Named in the running text, not in a list:
- WPA form 3 (137 Flynn Road application)
- Proposed warrant for Pierce Property APR
- Draft proposed commission land use regulations
- Land management plans for Lane and Table Rock properties
- Hunting Hill regulations (three-party board appendix)
- Suggested Hunting Hills language from Adam Costa
- Email from Sharon Jordan on trail cutting
- Email from the police chief on dog regulations
- JR slide show on land use regulations
- JR decibel chart
- Diagram for 137 Flynn Road NOI (first diagram received)
- Drawing with cross section, 137 Flynn Road NOI
- Order of conditions, 25 Pearl Street
- Engineering proposal, 137 Flynn Road (5000 dollars)
- Notes from meeting with Town Counsel (on the cloud)
Heard in the recording
- ▶ 5:24Pollinator habitat proposalapplication or permit, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 2:16:25Draft town meeting article for APRwarrant article, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Proposed warrant for Pierce Property APR”)
- ▶ 49:10Flynn Road site diagramplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Diagram for 137 Flynn Road NOI (first diagram received)”)
- ▶ 1:37:38Notes of meeting with town counselmemo· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Notes from meeting with Town Counsel (on the cloud)”)
- ▶ 3:08:11Jack Rabbit's regulation markup presentationpresentation, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Hunting Hill regulations (three-party board appendix)”)
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Public comment
- ▶ 4:59Presented a plant, sand, wood chip and marker wish list for the Lunenburg pollinator habitat at 123 Hollis Road. — Jenny Albertson, as heard, pollinator habitat overseer, 50 Upland Avenue
- ▶ 12:31Offered to supply wood chips for the habitat. — a speaker, resident (Tanner)
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- planning and zoning257 min · 92%
- recreation151 min · 54%
- policy141 min · 50%
- legal22 min · 8%
- grants10 min · 3%
- town meeting8 min · 3%
- warrant article8 min · 3%
- capital8 min · 3%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:00Meeting opening, roll call, minutes deferredinformational · 4:59 long
- ▶ 4:59Pollinator habitat funding requestvoted · 9:42 long · grants, recreation
- ▶ 14:41Mislocated septic holding tank at 25 Pearl Streetreferred to amended filing; fine motion failed · 21:38 long · planning and zoning, legal
- ▶ 36:19Continued hearings: land use regulations, Wu/Benjamin, Proctor Masonryvoted · 4:49 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 41:08137 Flynn Road stone wall notice of intentcontinued · 55:26 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:36:34238 Fire Road 16 hearingcontinued · 2:31 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:39:05386 Sunset Lane retaining walls hearingcontinued · 30:38 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 2:09:43757 Chase Road hearingcontinued · 1:25 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 2:11:08Pierce agricultural preservation restriction articlevoted to recommend · 8:25 long · town meeting, warrant article, capital
- ▶ 2:19:33Land use regulations workshopno resolution; items deferred · 2:20:59 long · policy, planning and zoning, recreation
- ▶ 4:40:32Adjournmentvoted · 0:41 long
What the captions could not carry
- Roll call counts were mostly given as ayes in sequence; no tallies stated.
- Portions of the roll calls for continuances are partially garbled.
- Whether the Pierce APR dollar figures are exact is unclear given caption errors.
Reports this meeting suggests
Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.
- ▶ 2:15:43Pierce APR local matchWhat would the town pay as its local match for the Pierce farmland preservation restriction and how is it funded?
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