What was said

Conservation Commission, January 5, 2022

the recording · 2:43 long, about 18,931 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:47:24The Conservation Commission approved five notices of intent or filings, including a septic upgrade, a wall and dock, and a subdivision, all on January 5, 2022.
  2. ▶ 24:13Most other hearings were continued to January 19, several for lack of a DEP file number or a missing applicant.
  3. ▶ 2:17:11The commission approved a certificate of compliance for 1608 Mass Ave and ratified an administrator's determination for 218 Island Road.
  4. ▶ 2:31:58The chair was directed to write to town officials asking for a commission seat on the interview committee for a new conservation agent.
  5. ▶ 2:07:34Members discussed encroachments on conservation land, where a survey found encroachments by five lots, but reached no resolution; letters are to be sent.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Wetlands filings near homes and waterways are decided at this board, and many were delayed to later meetings by paperwork such as missing state file numbers.
  • A part-time clerical position for the conservation administrator is in the submitted budget, so residents may be asked to weigh in on it at budget time.

Watch next

  • The January 19 meeting, where most continued hearings return, with 441 Thompson Harbor Road structural plans due.
  • The chair's letter on commission representation in hiring a conservation agent, and the part-time clerical request in the budget.

grantshiringlegalpersonnelplanning and zoningpublic commentrecreationstaffing

Present: Bob Pease (chair); Rich Bursh (member); Jeff Viviano (member); Patty Adams (member); Katie Childs (member); Mike Larouche (member, remote); Jack Rabbit (member); Matt (conservation administrator). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 8:14Approve field change at 475 Leominster-Shirley Roadpassed
  2. ▶ 24:13Continue 21 Brookview Terrace hearing to Jan 19passed
  3. ▶ 30:39Approve notice of intent for 19 Crescent Terrace septicpassed
  4. ▶ 50:04Continue 2 Gabe's Place hearing to Jan 19passed
  5. ▶ 52:31Continue 524 Northfield Road to later in meetingpassed
  6. ▶ 1:15:44Continue 445 Townsend Harbor Road to Jan 19passed
  7. ▶ 1:22:56Approve 160 Peninsula Drive notice of intentpassed
  8. ▶ 1:24:36Continue 188 Wailum Road determination to Jan 19not audible
  9. ▶ 1:36:20Approve 41 Country Lane with markers every 20 feet at the 30-foot zonepassed
  10. ▶ 1:47:24Approve 101 Pleasant Street notice of intentpassed
  11. ▶ 1:48:24Continue 123 Trace Road to February 2passed
  12. ▶ 1:49:06Continue 524 Northfield Road to Jan 19passed
  13. ▶ 2:17:11Approve certificate of compliance for 1608 Mass Avepassed
  14. ▶ 2:21:01Ratify administrator's determination for 218 Island Roadpassed

And 2 procedural: approve minutes of november 17th (▶ 4:00); adjourn (▶ 2:41:39).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 12 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differs524 Northfield Road: two continuation votes vs one▶ 52:31

    recording Continue 524 Northfield Road to later in meeting — passed

    town’s minutes “a motion of rb and a second by ml with a unanimous vote to approve the motion”

    Ours records a vote to continue to later in the meeting and a second vote to Jan 19; the official minutes record only the Jan 19 continuation. Check the recording around t=3151 and whether the item was taken up again.

  2. differs188 Wailum/Whalom Road continuation vote outcome▶ 1:24:36

    recording Continue 188 Wailum Road determination to Jan 19 — not audible

    town’s minutes “a second by jv and a unanimous vote to continue by roll call”

    Ours could not hear the outcome; the official minutes record it as passed unanimously by roll call. Confirm against the recording.

  3. differs41 Country Lane marker condition▶ 1:36:20

    recording Approve 41 Country Lane with markers every 20 feet at the 30-foot zone — passed

    town’s minutes “markers or feno markers. by jv and a second by cc.”

    Ours gives a 20-foot marker spacing; the official minutes specify granite or FENO markers and give no spacing in the quoted text. Check the recording and the full official wording.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Street name 188 Wailum Road:188 Wailum Road→188 Whalom Road▶ 1:24:36
  • 123 Trace Road vs Chase Road continuation to February 2:Continue 123 Trace Road to February 2 — passed→123 Chase Road▶ 1:48:24
  • 441 Thompson/Townsend Harbor Road enforcement:441 Thompson Harbor Road enforcement: applicant to return next meeting with structural plans after removing the overhang.→441 Townsend Harbor Road▶ 1:51:26
  • Commissioner names: Bursch, Childs, Rabbitt:Rich Bursh (member); Katie Childs (member); Jack Rabbit (member)→Richard Bursch; Catie Childs; Jack Rabbitt
In one record only: 7 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — 445 Townsend Harbor Road applicant bringing stone in before approval: No commissioner objected to the 445 Townsend Harbor Road applicant bringing in stone only, with no construction, before approval. ▶ 1:15:02
  • Recording only — 2 Gabe's Place site visit and replacement trees: Hearing for 2 Gabe's Place continued; commissioners to arrange a site visit and applicant to discuss replacement trees with the administrator. ▶ 42:33
  • Recording only — 188 Wailum Road applicant warning of withdrawal: 188 Wailum Road determination continued one more meeting; applicant to be warned it will be withdrawn if he does not appear. ▶ 1:24:36
  • Recording only — Letter to selectmen and town manager on conservation agent interview committee: Chair to draft a letter to the selectmen and town manager asking for commission representation on the interview committee for a new conservation agent. ▶ 2:31:58
  • Recording only — Adjunct commission members: Chair to approach the town manager about advertising for adjunct commission members. ▶ 2:37:50
  • Recording only — Survey of conservation land encroachments, $8,000: Survey of conservation land encroachments: eight thousand dollars ▶ 2:07:34
  • Recording only — Part-time clerical staff request, 19 hours a week: Part-time clerical staff request: 19 hours a week ▶ 2:35:04
  • Town’s minutes only — Temporary roof supports at 441 Townsend Harbor Road: “temporary supports on the roof the commission told him yes”
  • Town’s minutes only — Staff action items assigned to MM: “615 townsend street- mm to tour site with building deartment jan 11.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Applicants, representatives and others present: “paul gosselin and chuck budnick are present to represent the applicant.”

Compared 2026-10-17. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 21:03DEP payment/fee processing

    Chair explained DEP numbers are delayed until the filing-fee check is logged by the state; applicants told to send proof of payment.

  2. ▶ 1:10:31Lost DEP fee check (Emke)

    The state had no record of the applicant's fee payment, so a new check and transmittal form will be sent.

  3. ▶ 2:07:34Survey of conservation land encroachments

    The town spent money on a surveyor to establish the property line, which found encroachments by five lots.

    as heard:eight thousand dollars

  4. ▶ 2:35:04Part-time clerical staff request

    The land use director put a request for a part-time staff position in the submitted budget to help the conservation administrator; members were encouraged to advocate for it.

    as heard:19 hours a week

  5. ▶ 2:22:28Recreational Trails Program grant match

    The snow riders club plans a trails grant needing a local match; the chair drafted a list of conservation land projects they could do as in-kind contributions.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 21:45Hearing for 21 Brookview Terrace continued to January 19 pending a DEP file number.
  • ▶ 42:33Hearing for 2 Gabe's Place continued; commissioners to arrange a site visit and applicant to discuss replacement trees with the administrator.
  • ▶ 1:15:02No commissioner objected to the 445 Townsend Harbor Road applicant bringing in stone only, with no construction, before approval.
  • ▶ 1:24:36188 Wailum Road determination continued one more meeting; applicant to be warned it will be withdrawn if he does not appear.
  • ▶ 1:51:26441 Thompson Harbor Road enforcement: applicant to return next meeting with structural plans after removing the overhang.
  • ▶ 2:12:18Bylaw review to be placed on the next agenda for members to review conservation bylaws.
  • ▶ 2:31:58Chair to draft a letter to the selectmen and town manager asking for commission representation on the interview committee for a new conservation agent.
  • ▶ 2:37:50Chair to approach the town manager about advertising for adjunct commission members.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Trails grant status report
  • Certificates of Compliance 1608 Mass Ave DEP 208-314
  • Town clerk Certificates for each parcel
  • Plan for 41 Country Lane (Kevin Hill)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 4:00minutes of November 17thprior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 15:11Notice of intent plan, 21 Brookview Terraceplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 54:18Revised plan, 445 Townsend Harbor Roadplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:20:12DEP comments, 160 Peninsula Driveletter or email· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:00:17Survey plan 6924plan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:21:45Draft goals under open space and land useother, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:12:38Report on kiosksreport· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 2:40:17Owner of 441 Thompson Harbor Road apologized and asked whether he may support the roof; told permission went to the homeowner.
  2. ▶ 1:54:53Contractor's representative put on the record that his firm holds the permits and liens over a payment dispute with the owner at 441 Thompson Harbor Road.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:05Call to order, roll call, and prior minutesvoted · 4:15 long
  2. ▶ 4:40Field change at 475 Leominster-Shirley Roadvoted · 4:15 long · planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 8:5521 Brookview Terrace drain relocation hearingcontinued to Jan 19 (no DEP number) · 16:25 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 25:2019 Crescent Terrace septic upgradeapproved · 6:00 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 31:202 Gabe's Place tree removal hearingcontinued to Jan 19 · 20:05 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 51:25524 Northfield Road, applicant absentcontinued later in meeting · 1:49 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 53:14445 Townsend Harbor Road retaining wall and DEP delaycontinued to Jan 19 · 23:26 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:16:47160 Peninsula Drive wall and dockapproved · 7:09 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:23:56188 Wailum Road determinationcontinued · 1:56 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 1:25:5241 Country Lane single-family homeapproved with boundary markers · 12:14 long · planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 1:38:06101 Pleasant Street subdivisionapproved · 10:18 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 1:48:24Continuances: 123 Trace Road and 524 Northfield Roadvoted to continue · 1:22 long
  13. ▶ 1:50:06Enforcement updatesinformational · 10:11 long · legal
  14. ▶ 2:00:17Encroachments on conservation land at Thompson Harborno resolution; letters to be sent · 11:20 long · legal, planning and zoning
  15. ▶ 2:11:37Bylaw review and trail kiosksinformational · 3:48 long · policy, recreation
  16. ▶ 2:15:25Certificate of compliance, 1608 Mass Ave, and 218 Island Road determinationapproved · 6:42 long · planning and zoning
  17. ▶ 2:22:07Draft conservation land goals and trails grantinformational · 9:23 long · grants, recreation
  18. ▶ 2:31:58Conservation agent hiring and adjunct membersdirection to chair · 8:19 long · hiring, staffing
  19. ▶ 2:40:17Closing remarks and adjournmentadjourned · 2:17 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Some roll-call votes are only partly captioned, so individual member votes are unclear in places.
  • The vote on the 41 Country Lane approval has some garbled roll-call captions.
  • Mike Larouche's connection was intermittent.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 2:00:17Conservation land encroachmentsWhat did the town's boundary survey find, what did it cost, and how can encroachments be resolved?
  • ▶ 2:35:04Conservation staffingWhat would a part-time clerical position for the Conservation Commission cost and who hires the next agent?

These are ours, and they are not the record

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