What was said

Conservation Commission, February 2, 2022

the recording · 2:40 long, about 19,833 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:56:49The commission continued the 711 Mass Ave four-lot subdivision hearing to the 16th and told the applicant to submit a written alternatives analysis comparing six and eight units.
  2. ▶ 1:29:14The commission approved a field change at 168 West Street and approved the drain line notice of intent at 21 Brookview Terrace; vote tallies were not audible.
  3. ▶ 2:09:02Negative determinations were issued for 205 Sunset Lane, on condition of updated plans, and for 2 Gabe's Place.
  4. ▶ 2:02:40Hearings for 104 Fairview Road, Harper Road and 123 Chase Road were continued; Harper Road is held up by a filing fee the state agency says it has not received.
  5. ▶ 2:37:55The conservation administrator announced he will retire on May 31, and personnel is considering part-time administrative help for the office.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The 711 Mass Ave decision turns on a written comparison of six and eight units, so whether a larger subdivision near wetlands is approved will rest on a document the public may be able to request.
  • The conservation administrator's retirement and the possible part-time replacement affect how quickly wetlands filings, enforcement orders and trail-grant work are handled in town.

Watch next

  • The continued 711 Mass Ave hearing on the 16th, and the written alternatives analysis due well before it.
  • A workshop on the local wetlands bylaw and its exemptions, to be scheduled by the chair on a Wednesday without a meeting.

housinglegalpersonnelplanning and zoningpublic commenttown departments

Present: Bob Pease (chair); Rich Bursch (member); Jeff Viviano (member); Katie Childs (member); Mike Larouche (member); Jack Rabbit (member); Patty Adams (member); Matt (conservation administrator). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 55:51Accept the field change at 168 West Street — moved by Jeff, as heardnot audible
  2. ▶ 1:02:09Issue a negative determination for 205 Sunset Lane, conditioned on updated plans showing erosion control, grading and revegetationnot audible
  3. ▶ 1:26:45Continue the 104 Fairview Road hearing to the next meetingnot audible
  4. ▶ 1:29:14Approve the notice of intent for the drain line at 21 Brookview Terracenot audible
  5. ▶ 2:00:53Continue the 711 Mass Ave hearing to the 16th — moved by Jeff, as heardnot audible
  6. ▶ 2:02:40Continue the Harper Road notice of intentnot audible
  7. ▶ 2:09:02Negative determination for 2 Gabe's Placenot audible
  8. ▶ 2:13:26Continue the 123 Chase Road hearing to February 16not audible

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of january 19 (▶ 3:10); adjourn (▶ 2:40:00).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 9 agree, 1 caption error resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsVote: 205 Sunset Lane negative determination, conditions▶ 1:02:09

    recording Issue a negative determination for 205 Sunset Lane, conditioned on updated plans showing erosion control, grading and revegetation

    town’s minutes “a negative determination with the condition that the plans be revised to show erosion control was made by rb and a second by jr with a unanimous motion approved by roll call vote.”

    Ours lists three conditions (erosion control, grading, revegetation); official lists only erosion control. Check the recording for the exact condition wording.

  2. differsDecision: what 711 Mass Ave must provide▶ 1:56:49

    recording The applicant for 711 Mass Ave was told to give the commission a written alternatives analysis comparing six and eight units, well before the next meeting.

    town’s minutes “rb asked that the information be provided prior to the next meeting.”

    Ours specifies a six-vs-eight-unit alternatives analysis; official only says 'the information' (financial, by context). Check the recording for what was requested.

1 caption error the town’s minutes resolve
  • Vote: continued NOI, Harper Road vs 445 Townsend Harbor Road:Continue the Harper Road notice of intent→445 Townsend Harbor Road▶ 2:02:40
In one record only: 3 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Figure: 711 Mass Ave subdivision economics '95': 711 Mass Ave subdivision economics: 95 ▶ 1:31:41
  • Recording only — Decision: workshop on local wetlands bylaw: The chair will schedule a workshop on the local wetlands bylaw and its exemptions, on a Wednesday without a meeting. ▶ 2:26:15
  • Recording only — Decision: 190 Peninsula enforcement letter: Staff will send a letter to the 190 Peninsula owners warning of progressive enforcement if there is no response. ▶ 2:34:54
  • Town’s minutes only — Decision: 30 Laurel Lane certificates of compliance held: “certificates of compliance 30 laurel lane mm requested it be held until the next meeting”
  • Town’s minutes only — Decision: Hollis Road bid spec with DPW: “heather lemieux gave permission to allow the commission to work with the dpw to come up with a bid spec for remedial work.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Attendee: Richard Tremblay, associate: “richard tremblay, associate”

Compared 2026-10-16. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:16:56Hollis Road house maintenance

    The town as landlord is trying to arrange plumbing and rodent work at the Hollis Road residence. Procurement rules require specifications for bids or quotes, and DPW may help write them.

  2. ▶ 1:31:41711 Mass Ave subdivision economics

    The applicant said six units would not be financially viable and that most site and infrastructure costs would stay the same. The commission asked for a written alternatives analysis showing the numbers.

    as heard:95

  3. ▶ 2:01:58Notice of intent filing fee, Harper Road

    The state environmental agency reported it had not received the applicant's payment. A replacement check was reportedly sent and the payment is still being traced.

  4. ▶ 2:35:35Trails grant signage

    Signs for the trails grant are being converted from PDFs to metal. The sign company says the file resolution is too low.

  5. ▶ 2:37:55Administrative help for conservation office

    The administrator said personnel is looking at adding part-time administrative help after his retirement.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:26:45The 104 Fairview Road dump removal hearing was continued two weeks. The administrator will ask the consultant to revise the plan to address DEP comments, including erosion control and riverfront notation.
  • ▶ 1:56:49The applicant for 711 Mass Ave was told to give the commission a written alternatives analysis comparing six and eight units, well before the next meeting. Staff will circulate it to members.
  • ▶ 2:26:15The chair will schedule a workshop on the local wetlands bylaw and its exemptions, on a Wednesday without a meeting.
  • ▶ 2:27:59The 441 Townsend Harbor Road owner is to submit a signed phased work narrative. It will come back as a field change at the next meeting, with a possible lifting of the stop work order.
  • ▶ 2:34:54Staff will send a letter to the 190 Peninsula owners warning of progressive enforcement if there is no response.
  • ▶ 2:14:51At 192 Townsend Harbor Road, the commission will send the town counsel's draft letters before talking with the homeowners.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Revised plan, 2 Gabe's Place (presented by Fran Majovski)
  • DEP comments, 104 Fairview Ave NOI
  • Prior site assessment (consultant), 104 Fairview Ave
  • Narrative with phasing for roof remediation, 441 Townsend Harbor Road

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 9:07Lake Shirley annual reportreport, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 52:10Revised plan for 168 West Street (revised 1/12/2022)plan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Revised plan, 2 Gabe's Place (presented by Fran Majovski)”)
  • ▶ 58:01Plan for 205 Sunset Laneplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:06:45Notice of intent for 104 Fairview Road and its site mapapplication or permit, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Prior site assessment (consultant), 104 Fairview Ave”)
  • ▶ 1:13:11DEP comments on 104 Fairview Roadletter or email· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“DEP comments, 104 Fairview Ave NOI”)
  • ▶ 1:33:25DEP comments on 711 Mass Ave alternatives analysisletter or email· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“DEP comments, 104 Fairview Ave NOI”)
  • ▶ 2:03:40Revised plan for 2 Gabe's Placeplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Revised plan, 2 Gabe's Place (presented by Fran Majovski)”)
  • ▶ 2:20:24Local wetlands bylawdraft policy or bylaw· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 3:10Prior minutes, January 19prior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 2:37:15The conservation administrator announced his retirement on May 31 after 23 years and thanked the commission. He donated the Table Rock open space sign to the town.
  2. ▶ 2:39:19A speaker praised the chair's work on the trails and urged people to watch a public access channel piece about the trails.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Opening, roll call, announcements, stormwater committee updateinformational · 2:47 long
  2. ▶ 2:47Approval of January 19 minutesvoted · 1:25 long
  3. ▶ 4:12168 West Street field change: documents not available, deferreddeferred · 4:13 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 8:25Lake Shirley annual report: water quality, herbicide treatment, plant survey, drawdowninformational · 42:59 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 51:24168 West Street field change reviewed and approvedvoted · 5:09 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 56:33205 Sunset Lane request for determination: septic gradingvoted with conditions · 6:36 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 1:03:09104 Fairview Road old dump removal notice of intentcontinued two weeks · 25:02 long · planning and zoning, facilities
  8. ▶ 1:28:1121 Brookview Terrace drain line notice of intentvoted · 1:45 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:29:56711 Mass Ave four-lot subdivision: alternatives analysis disputecontinued · 31:39 long · planning and zoning, housing
  10. ▶ 2:01:35Harper Road notice of intent: filing fee issuecontinued · 1:45 long · planning and zoning, fees
  11. ▶ 2:03:202 Gabe's Place tree removal request for determinationvoted · 9:45 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 2:13:05123 Chase Road duplex notice of intentcontinued · 1:02 long · planning and zoning, housing
  13. ▶ 2:14:07192 Townsend Harbor Road and Hollis Road house maintenanceinformational · 6:17 long · facilities, legal
  14. ▶ 2:20:24Wetlands bylaw review and exemptionsworkshop to be scheduled · 6:32 long · policy, planning and zoning
  15. ▶ 2:26:56Enforcement: 441 Townsend Harbor Road and other violations, trails grantinformational · 9:59 long · planning and zoning, grants
  16. ▶ 2:36:55Public comment, administrator retirement, adjournmentadjourned · 3:25 long · public comment, personnel

What the captions could not carry

  • Some roll-call votes list only some members' responses; the Patty Adams vote at adjournment is unclear.
  • Exact dates and the 711 versus 7-eleven address are as the captions render them.
  • Motion makers for several votes are unclear.
  • The DEP file number for 21 Brookview Terrace is not given.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 2:14:51Hollis Road house fundWhat does the town spend to maintain and repair the Hollis Road house it owns as landlord?

These are ours, and they are not the record

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What changed

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