What was said

Conservation Commission, May 4, 2022

the recording · 4:35 long, about 32,688 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 3:23:12The Conservation Commission approved a plan for the Nazarenko stairs, landing and dock as submitted, over two no votes, with the agent to consult town counsel before it is signed.
  2. ▶ 4:17:54A cease work order at the 430 property stays in place, with no driveway work until the commission reviews plans.
  3. ▶ 1:56:00The commission continued the 160 Mass Ave culvert, 260 Fahlula Road warehouse, 379 Townsend Harbor Road and 205 Sunset Lane (Walton) dock matters.
  4. ▶ 2:12:24The warehouse applicant's representative said they would consider funding a peer review during construction because the agent is retiring.
  5. ▶ 56:30The commission approved six replacement maples at 411 Townsend Harbor Road and a field change at 398 Sunset Lane.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Lakefront stairs and docks at Hickory Hills and Sunset Lane were decided here, and a resident asked whether a project could be voted without meeting priority habitat guidelines, a question the minutes do not show answered.
  • With the agent retiring, review of the large warehouse project may rely on an applicant-funded outside reviewer, so who pays for oversight during construction is still undecided.

Watch next

  • Continued hearings return on May 18, including the warehouse and culvert matters.
  • The commission's review of plans at the 430 property, expected in about two weeks.

planning and zoningpublic comment

Present: Bob Pease (chair); Jeff Viviano (member); Katie Childs (member); Mike Laroche (member); Jack Rabbit (member); Rich Burst/Bursch (member); Matt Murrow (conservation agent/administrator); Mary Wilson (presenter). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 19:00Approve the 398 Sunset Lane house footprint change as a field change. — moved by Mike Laroche, as heardpassed (roll call; ayes heard, no dissent heard)
  2. ▶ 56:30Approve plan at 411 Townsend Harbor Road with six replacement maples within 30 feet. — moved by Jack Rabbit, as heardpassed (roll call)
  3. ▶ 1:07:46Negative determination on the fence at 141 Hemlock Drive.passed (roll call ayes)
  4. ▶ 1:31:45Positive determination on the 205 Sunset Lane (Harrison) deck and landing request. — moved by Jack Rabbit, as heardpassed (roll call ayes)
  5. ▶ 2:55:17Approve the 71 Watt Street notice of intent with a condition that the owner maintain the rain garden. — moved by Jack Rabbit, as heardpassed (roll call ayes)
  6. ▶ 3:23:12Approve the Nazarenko stairs, landing and dock plan as submitted.passed (two members voted no; chair stated yes; remaining votes partly audible)
  7. ▶ 3:58:50Approve certificate of compliance for 70 Oak Ridge Road.passed (roll call ayes)
  8. ▶ 4:28:06Approve administrator's determination to remove five dead trees at 165 Townsend Harbor Road, without stump removal.passed (roll call ayes)
  9. ▶ 4:31:14Extend prior determination at 365 Sunset to remove the remaining rotted tree clump.passed (roll call ayes)

And 6 procedural: continue the 160 mass ave culvert hearing to may 18. (▶ 1:54:58); continue the 260 fahlula road warehouse hearing to may 18. (▶ 2:12:24); continue the 379 townsend harbor road hearing to may 18. (▶ 2:43:27); continue the 411 goodrich street hearing to may 18. (▶ 2:58:48); continue the 205 sunset lane (walton) hearing to may 18. (▶ 3:53:39); adjourn. (▶ 4:34:00).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 13 agree, 5 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 6 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differs411 Townsend Harbor Road vote count▶ 56:30

    recording Approve plan at 411 Townsend Harbor Road with six replacement maples within 30 feet. — passed (roll call)

    town’s minutes “the motion was approved by a 5 to 1 vote with jv dissenting.”

    Official records a 5-1 vote with JV dissenting; ours records no dissent. Also ours puts all six maples within 30 feet, the official splits them three and three. Check the recording around t=3390 for the dissent and the maple placement.

  2. differs70 Oak Ridge Road certificate of compliance vote▶ 3:58:50

    recording Approve certificate of compliance for 70 Oak Ridge Road. — passed (roll call ayes)

    town’s minutes —

    Ours records a vote the official minutes do not mention at all. Check the official minutes and the recording at t=14330.

  3. differs165 Townsend Harbor Road tree decision▶ 4:28:06

    recording Approve administrator's determination to remove five dead trees at 165 Townsend Harbor Road, without stump removal. — passed (roll call ayes)

    town’s minutes “a motion of jr and a second by ml with a unanimous vote to approve by roll call vote”

    Ours says remove five dead trees; official says the determination is to replant trees. Check the recording at t=16086 for what was approved (removal, replanting, or both).

  4. differsContinuations to May 18 (Maki, Fitchburg Land, Zirkle, Blatt)

    recording —

    town’s minutes “rb moved to continue to may 18 with a second by cc and a unanimous vote to approve”

    Official records four unanimous votes to continue hearings to May 18 (160 Massachusetts Ave, 260 Fahlulah Road, 379 Townsend Harbor Road, 411 Goodrich Street); ours records none. Check whether the recording has these motions.

  5. differsJohn Welton 205 Sunset Lane continuation, 4-1

    recording —

    town’s minutes “the motion passed by a vote of 4 to 1 ( ml abstaining)”

    Official records a 4-1 vote with an abstention; ours has no such vote. Check the recording.

  6. differsCease/stop work order property▶ 4:17:54

    recording Cease work order stays in place at the 430 property; no driveway work until commission reviews plans; site visits by appointment.

    town’s minutes “due to a lack of support by a majority of the commission, to lift it, the stop work order remained in place.”

    Same decision (order stays), but ours says 430 property and the official says 238 Fire Road. Confirm the address on the recording at t=15474; driveway and appointment details are not in the official.

5 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Attendee Katie/Catie Childs:Katie Childs (member)→Catie Childs
  • Attendee Mike Laroche:Mike Laroche (member)→Michael Larouche
  • Attendee Jack Rabbit:Jack Rabbit (member)→Jack Rabbitt
  • Attendee Rich Burst/Bursch:Rich Burst/Bursch (member)→Richard Bursch
  • Attendee Matt Murrow, conservation agent:Matt Murrow (conservation agent/administrator)→Matthew S. Marro
In one record only: 2 from the recording, 8 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Bridge crossing cost if resized: Cost of bridge crossing if resized: four hundred thousand dollars ▶ 4:16:12
  • Recording only — Peer review funding and retiring agent: Applicant to be asked about funding peer review during construction because the agent is retiring. ▶ 2:11:00
  • Town’s minutes only — Third-party inspector, Fitchburg Land: “rb asked if the commission could consider potentially hiring a third party inspector.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Fitchburg invasive species remediation: “rb requested that that an area of invasive species be remediated and the applicant agreed to do so.”
  • Town’s minutes only — NHESP check at 205 Sunset Lane: “he will check with the endangered species program”
  • Town’s minutes only — Eaton septic deck removal: “mm noted that it was part of the original order so it is ok to complete.”
  • Town’s minutes only — 92 Wilder Rd withdrawal: “92 wilder ; mm noted that the applicant has withdrawn.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Absent member Patricia Adams: “all members present except pa”
  • Town’s minutes only — Associate Richard Tremblay: “richard tremblay, associate”
  • Town’s minutes only — Applicants, abutters and public speakers: “robin jacobs outlined that she had sent a video to the commission and wanted to ask”

Compared 2026-10-16. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:12:24Peer review of warehouse project

    Applicant's representative said they are willing to fund a peer review of the site during construction, given the agent's retirement.

  2. ▶ 1:52:13DEP filing fee for culvert project

    The commission advised sending an image of the cancelled check to DEP so a file number is issued.

  3. ▶ 4:16:12Cost of bridge crossing if resized

    Owner said tearing out the crossing would be very costly.

    as heard:four hundred thousand dollars

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 2:44:48Applicant at 379 Townsend Harbor Road may begin limited front-yard regrading outside the 50-foot zone while the rest is continued.
  • ▶ 4:17:54Cease work order stays in place at the 430 property; no driveway work until commission reviews plans; site visits by appointment.
  • ▶ 3:25:55Agent to consult town counsel before the Nazarenko approval is signed.
  • ▶ 4:31:54Pollinator group may attach flyers to the edges of town kiosks.
  • ▶ 4:32:56Girl Scouts may donate a bench for conservation land.
  • ▶ 2:11:00Applicant to be asked about funding peer review during construction because the agent is retiring.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Order of Conditions 208-1240 (prior order, 411 Townsend Harbor Road)
  • Lunenburg Wetlands Bylaw and regulations (chapter 239)
  • Plan for fence at 141 Hemlock Dr
  • Video sent to the commission by Robin Jacobs (379 Townsend Harbor Road)
  • Pictures and narrative submitted by the applicant (379 Townsend Harbor Road)
  • Notification letter (71 Watt St)
  • As-built submitted (238 Fire Road)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 14:29overlay plan for 398 Sunset Laneplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Plan for fence at 141 Hemlock Dr”)
  • ▶ 25:01planting scheduleplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 54:252019 aerial photoother, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:36:37Mackenzie structural planplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:58:03previous order of conditions (Tango)application or permit· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Order of Conditions 208-1240 (prior order, 411 Townsend Harbor Road)”)
  • ▶ 3:57:27White as-built plan and engineer's letterplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“As-built submitted (238 Fire Road)”)
  • ▶ 3:09:52MESA regulationsother, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 6:27Thanked the departing agent for his service to the commission and town. — a speaker, resident/consultant
  2. ▶ 2:27:41Abutter concerned about water flow, liability and the accuracy of property lines near 379 Townsend Harbor Road.
  3. ▶ 2:52:06Abutter said notification named a different lot (17 Watt Street) than 71 Watt Street. — susan whalen, as heard
  4. ▶ 3:24:14Asked whether a project could be voted without meeting priority habitat guidelines.
  5. ▶ 3:46:00Supported the neighbor's dock access, noting parking would be arranged off the street.
  6. ▶ 4:20:24Owner asked that matter be earlier on future agendas, and that site visits be by appointment.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 1:31Opening, roll call, announcements, thanks to volunteers and departing agentinformational · 6:24 long · public comment
  2. ▶ 8:19Earth Day event reportinformational · 4:48 long
  3. ▶ 13:07398 Sunset Lane field changevoted · 6:53 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 20:01411 Townsend Harbor Road amendment: wall, tree removal and replantingvoted · 45:29 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 1:05:57141 Hemlock Drive fence requestvoted · 2:43 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 1:08:47205 Sunset Lane (Harrison) deck requestvoted · 26:03 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 1:34:54160 Mass Ave culvert replacementcontinued · 20:56 long · planning and zoning, roads and dpw
  8. ▶ 1:56:00260 Fahlula Road warehousecontinued · 17:20 long · planning and zoning, economic development
  9. ▶ 2:13:29379 Townsend Harbor Road driveway, yard and garagecontinued · 32:01 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 2:45:2971 Watt Street house drivewayvoted · 10:51 long · planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 2:56:2492 Wilder Road and 411 Goodrich Street tree removalwithdrawn / continued · 3:06 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 2:59:28Nazarenko stairs, landing and dockvoted · 27:32 long · planning and zoning
  13. ▶ 3:26:59205 Sunset Lane (Walton) stairs and dockcontinued · 28:01 long · planning and zoning
  14. ▶ 3:55:02Septic work and certificate of compliance for 70 Oak Ridge Roadvoted · 4:58 long · planning and zoning
  15. ▶ 3:59:51430 cease work order reviewno change, review in two weeks · 22:09 long · planning and zoning, legal
  16. ▶ 4:22:04Administrator's determinations on dead tree removalvoted · 9:36 long · planning and zoning
  17. ▶ 4:31:40Kiosk flyers, Girl Scout bench, adjournmentvoted · 3:20 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Several vote counts were only partly audible; individual roll-call responses are not fully captured
  • Some speaker identities and names are garbled in the captions

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