What was said

Conservation Commission, May 18, 2022

the recording · 3:01 long, about 21,668 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 2:14:18After a long hearing, the Conservation Commission continued the fire road violation at a lakeside property and told the applicant to resubmit a corrected plan.
  2. ▶ 2:14:18The resubmission must include an as-built of the whole driveway, regrading to the approved plan, revised plantings and a floodplain compensation area.
  3. ▶ 16:20The commission voted negative determinations for 568 Reservoir Road and 379 Townsend Harbor Road, and approved an order of conditions for the 160 Mass Ave culvert.
  4. ▶ 22:16It continued the 260 warehouse, 411 Goodrich Street and 205 Sunset Lane filings to June 1st, and the agent was to look into a third-party wetland review of the warehouse.
  5. ▶ 56:53Votes closed out the 192 Townsend Harbor Road enforcement, issued two certificates of compliance and held a third; the agent, Matt Morrow, retired and Nadia takes over.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Wetland rulings decide what neighbors and owners near water, such as the lakeside site and the Townsend Harbor Road drainage, may build and must fix, and a continued violation stays unresolved until the commission accepts a revised plan.
  • Handing the agent role to a new person changes who handles day-to-day filings and site checks for applicants and neighbors.

Watch next

  • June 1st meeting: continued hearings for the warehouse, 411 Goodrich Street and 205 Sunset Lane, which also owes a plan of what exists versus what was approved.
  • The next meeting: review of the lakeside violation's as-built, remediation plan, plantings and floodplain compensation.

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Present: Richard Bursh (vice chair, acting chair); Mike Larouche (member); Jeff Viviano (member); Katie Childs (member); Patty Adams (member); Jack Rabbit (member); Matt Morrow (conservation agent (retiring)); Nadia (incoming conservation agent); Rich Trembley (associate member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 16:20Negative determination for the RDA at 568 Reservoir Roadpassed; roll call all yes as heard
  2. ▶ 20:29Approve notice of intent with standard order of conditions for 160 Mass Ave culvertpassed; roll call yes as heard
  3. ▶ 22:20Continue the 260 Lunenburg warehouse hearing to June 1stpassed; roll call yes as heard
  4. ▶ 46:47Negative determination for 379 Townsend Harbor Roadpassed 6-0 as heard (six ayes)
  5. ▶ 48:54Continue 411 Goodrich Street RDA to June 1stpassed; roll call yes as heard
  6. ▶ 51:21Continue 205 Sunset Lane RDA to June 1stpassed; roll call yes as heard
  7. ▶ 56:53Close out the 192 Townsend Harbor Road enforcement and accept the remediation plan, leaving the stone wallpassed; roll call yes as heard
  8. ▶ 2:27:40Remove 441 Townsend Harbor Road from enforcement listpassed; roll call yes as heard
  9. ▶ 2:40:49Issue partial certificate of compliance for lot one, 335 Chase Road, noting house not applicable to orderspassed; roll call yes as heard
  10. ▶ 2:51:20Issue certificate of compliance for the 1992 order of conditions (DEP 208-291) on Reservoir Roadpassed; roll call yes as heard, one member hesitant
  11. ▶ 2:57:02Ratify agent's determination for 19 Crocker Ave allowing tree removal with a two-inch red maple replacement within 50 feet of the waterpassed; roll call yes as heard

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 3:00:53).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 9 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 6 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsVote: continue 260 Lunenburg warehouse hearing to June 1st▶ 22:20

    recording Continue the 260 Lunenburg warehouse hearing to June 1st — passed; roll call yes as heard

    town’s minutes —

    The official minutes record no continuance vote for the warehouse Notice of Intent (Fitchburg Land Property Owner LLC); check the recording and the town's minutes.

  2. differsVote: continue 411 Goodrich Street RDA to June 1st▶ 48:54

    recording Continue 411 Goodrich Street RDA to June 1st — passed; roll call yes as heard

    town’s minutes —

    Vote appears in ours only; the official minutes have no record of this continuance. Check the recording and the town's minutes.

  3. differsVote: continue 205 Sunset Lane RDA to June 1st▶ 51:21

    recording Continue 205 Sunset Lane RDA to June 1st — passed; roll call yes as heard

    town’s minutes —

    Official minutes record no continuance vote for 205 Sunset, only a request for an as-built for June 1; check whether a vote was taken.

  4. differsVote: remove 441 Townsend Harbor Road from enforcement list▶ 2:27:40

    recording Remove 441 Townsend Harbor Road from enforcement list — passed; roll call yes as heard

    town’s minutes —

    Vote in ours only; official minutes have no 441 Townsend Harbor Road item. Check the recording and the town's minutes.

  5. differsVote: certificate of compliance, 1992 order (DEP 208-291) Reservoir Road▶ 2:51:20

    recording Issue certificate of compliance for the 1992 order of conditions (DEP 208-291) on Reservoir Road — passed; roll call yes as heard, one member hesitant

    town’s minutes —

    Vote in ours only; the official minutes record no such certificate. Check the recording and the town's minutes.

  6. differs137 Flynn Road certificate of compliance▶ 2:47:31

    recording Certificate of compliance for 137 Flynn Road to be held until the project is complete rather than issuing a partial.

    town’s minutes “137 flynn road granted by a motion of ml and a second by jv with a unanimous vote to approve the motion”

    Outcomes differ: ours says the certificate was held, the official minutes say it was granted by a unanimous vote. Check the recording.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Attendee: Richard Bursch (vice chair):Richard Bursh (vice chair, acting chair)→Richard Bursch
  • Attendee: Matthew Marro (conservation agent):Matt Morrow (conservation agent (retiring))→Matthew S. Marro
  • Attendee: Jack Rabbitt:Jack Rabbit (member)→Jack Rabbitt
  • Attendee: Richard Tremblay (associate):Rich Trembley (associate member)→Richard Tremblay
In one record only: 2 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Third-party wetland review of warehouse: Agent to check on arranging a third-party wetland review of the warehouse project. ▶ 22:16
  • Recording only — Attendee: Nadia, incoming conservation agent: Nadia (incoming conservation agent)
  • Town’s minutes only — Floodplain review at 238 Fire Road: “mm will review the record as to the flood plain disposition.”
  • Town’s minutes only — 75 West St and Talley 172 Peninsula Drive: “75 west st mm to check out”
  • Town’s minutes only — Floating dock permission answer: “mr magurn asked if he needed permission for a floating dock and the answer was yes.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Attendees: applicants, associate Mary Wilson and public: “mary wilson, associate”

Compared 2026-10-16. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

Nothing touching money was heard beyond the transfers.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 2:14:18Applicant to submit a finished as-built of the whole driveway, a remediation plan restoring the westerly grading to the approved plan, revised plantings (larger caliper trees, extra trees on east side), and a floodplain compensation area, for review at the next meeting.
  • ▶ 2:33:54205 Sunset applicant to submit a plan of what exists versus what was approved for the June 1st meeting.
  • ▶ 2:47:31Certificate of compliance for 137 Flynn Road to be held until the project is complete rather than issuing a partial.
  • ▶ 22:16Agent to check on arranging a third-party wetland review of the warehouse project.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Photo exhibits of the site in question (Pauling notice of intent)
  • Updated drawing (Zirkle request for determination)
  • Detail plan of the trench and prior photos of the site (Zirkle)
  • Emails referred to regarding DEP comment (Maki notice of intent)
  • Volumetric calculations and topo shots (238 Fire Road)
  • Finished as-built (238 Fire Road)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 1:01:06remediation planplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:22:26as-built plan with flood plain calculationplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Finished as-built (238 Fire Road)”)
  • ▶ 1:40:32planting scheduleplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 6:41the submitted RDA plan for 568 Reservoir Roadapplication or permit, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 26:34drainage trench drawingplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Detail plan of the trench and prior photos of the site (Zirkle)”)
  • ▶ 2:48:111992 order of conditions file 291application or permit, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 32:13Concerns about stormwater runoff from 379 Townsend Harbor Road, a trench on the neighbor's side, and gutters/grated base; asked what happens if it worsens. — robin jacobs, as heard, abutter at 372
  2. ▶ 2:18:20Applicant (butch) and engineer commented during the fire road violation hearing on the remediation plan, grading and floodplain compensation.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:08Call to order, agenda corrections, introduction of new agent Nadia, roll callinformational · 4:32 long
  2. ▶ 4:46568 Reservoir Road RDA, garage and yard cleanupvoted negative determination · 12:10 long · planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 16:56160 Mass Ave culvert notice of intentvoted order of conditions · 4:16 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 21:12260 warehouse notice of intent, continuedcontinued to June 1st · 1:24 long · planning and zoning, economic development
  5. ▶ 22:58379 Townsend Harbor Road RDA, drainage trench and neighbor runoff concernsvoted negative determination · 24:31 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  6. ▶ 47:49411 Goodrich St and 205 Sunset Lane RDAsboth continued to June 1st · 4:15 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 52:04Old business: encroachment, 192 Townsend Harbor Road enforcement close-out, Hollis Road maintenancevoted to close out; others informational · 8:36 long · planning and zoning, legal
  8. ▶ 1:00:43Fire road violation: remediation plan, as-built, grading, floodplain compensation, plantingscontinued; applicant to resubmit · 1:25:57 long · planning and zoning, legal
  9. ▶ 2:27:00Enforcement list updates and 205 Sunset deck violation441 removed by vote; 205 Sunset plan requested · 8:20 long · planning and zoning, legal
  10. ▶ 2:36:44Certificates of compliance: 335 Chase Road, 137 Flynn Road, old Reservoir Road ordertwo issued, one held · 16:36 long · planning and zoning, legal
  11. ▶ 2:53:26Agent determination 19 Crocker Avevoted with replacement tree condition · 3:54 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 2:58:03Agent Matt Morrow's farewell and adjournmentadjourned · 3:34 long · personnel

What the captions could not carry

  • Some roll call votes have missing or unclear names (e.g., 379 Townsend Harbor, Chase Road, 335), so exact counts are not fully captured
  • Name of the fire road property owner and street address details partly garbled
  • Several speakers' names garbled by captions

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