What was said

Conservation Commission, June 15, 2022

the recording · 3:58 long, about 28,344 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 58:30The commission voted to direct the 205 Sunset applicant to bring a deck, stairs and dock back into line with the approved plan; the vote was not audible in the captions.
  2. ▶ 2:35:27A separate request for a negative determination on stairs and a deck at 205 Sunset Lane did not pass, because the chair said four votes were needed; it was continued.
  3. ▶ 2:10:08The Hickory Hills lake management plan hearing was continued to July 6, as was the 60 South Row Road request, which awaits an amended plan.
  4. ▶ 3:50:38Site visits were moved to the morning of July 1.
  5. ▶ 2:59:51Budget motions came up on reimbursing a tenant from the house road account, where the treasurer wants proof of payment, and on paying for goat services at the pollinator habitat.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Work at 205 Sunset built larger than approved is being brought back to the permitted plan, which shows how the commission enforces approvals on lakefront and bank projects.
  • Most open hearings, including the Hickory Hills lake plan, carry over to July 6, so residents with an interest in them will not see a decision before then.

Watch next

  • The July 6 meeting, where the Hickory Hills lake management plan and the 60 South Row Road amended plan are due back.
  • Site visits on the morning of July 1.

legalplanning and zoningpublic comment

Present: Bob Pease (chair); Rich Bursh (member); Jeff Viviano (member); Patricia Adams (member); Mike Larouche (member); Jack Rabbit (member); Rich Trembley (associate member); Mary Wilson (associate member); Nadia (conservation administrator). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 58:30Direct the 205 Sunset applicant to bring deck, stairs and dock back into compliance with the approved plannot audible
  2. ▶ 2:35:27Negative determination for 205 Sunset Lane RDA stairs and deck with conditionsdid not pass; chair said four votes needed
  3. ▶ 2:10:08Continue Hickory Hills lake management plan hearing to July 6not audible

And 2 procedural: approve minutes of june 1 meeting (▶ 8:50); adjourn (▶ 3:57:33).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 2 agree, 2 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 5 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsVote on 205 Sunset Lane RDA (stairs, landing, dock)▶ 2:35:27

    recording Negative determination for 205 Sunset Lane RDA stairs and deck with conditions — did not pass; chair said four votes needed

    town’s minutes “jv moved/pa seconded the rda with the conditions that the stairs are to not to exceed 4 feet width, with the landing at the water's edge not to exceed 8x10'”

    Ours records a failed negative determination needing four votes; official records a 3-3 motion to approve the RDA with conditions and does not say passed or failed. Check the outcome and whether the motion was positive or negative.

  2. differs205 Sunset directive on compliance with approved plan▶ 58:30

    recording Direct the 205 Sunset applicant to bring deck, stairs and dock back into compliance with the approved plan — not audible

    town’s minutes “rb, jv, pa, and ml thought the applicants should return the structures with the originally approved size for the landings.”

    Ours logs a vote; official calls it only a straw poll, not a recorded motion. Check whether a formal vote was taken.

  3. differs60 South Row Road continuance▶ 1:15:39

    recording 60 South Row Road RDA continued to July 6 for an amended plan.

    town’s minutes “jv moved/ml seconded to continue to july 6th. roll call vote unanimous in favor.”

    Both continue to July 6, but official records a unanimous vote on a determination hearing and gives no amended-plan reason. Ours lists it as a decision. Check the reason and the vote.

  4. differsGoat service for poison ivy▶ 3:11:21

    recording Goat service for poison ivy: 645 dollars, 650

    town’s minutes “ml moved/bp seconded to spend $650 on using goats for removal of poison ivy. roll call vote was unanimous in favor.”

    Official has a $650 spending vote and also lists $645 as a potential charge. Ours records only figures with no vote. Check the $645 quote against the $650 authorization.

  5. differsSite visit date▶ 3:50:38

    recording Site visits moved to the morning of July 1.

    town’s minutes “nm asked about rescheduling site walks and they will be on friday 7/1 instead of saturday 7/2.”

    Both give July 1, so the date agrees. The 'morning' timing is only in ours. Check whether a time of day was stated.

2 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Tenant reimbursement amount and road name:House Road tenant reimbursement: 305 dollars and 43 cents→$305.43 (Hollis Road)▶ 2:59:51
  • Conservation administrator:Nadia (conservation administrator)→Nadia Madden
In one record only: 0 from the recording, 11 from the town’s minutes
  • Town’s minutes only — Peer review of 260 Falujah Road by Graves Engineering: “rb moved/ml seconded to peer review by graves engineering of the wetlands regulations dep and bylaw. roll call vote was unanimous in favor.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Other continuance votes to July 6 (Holman St lots 3 and 4, Northfield Road, 42 Summer Street, 260 Falujah Road): “rb moved to continue to july 6th/jv seconded. roll call vote unanimous in favor.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Accept 238 Fire Road remediation plan and remove stop work order (5-1): “jv moved/ pa seconded to accept the remediation plan and remove the stop work order”
  • Town’s minutes only — Certificate of Compliance for 798-802 West Street: “pa moved/jv seconded to issue a coc for 798-802 west street . roll call vote was unanimous in favor.”
  • Town’s minutes only — 131 White Street RDA with replanting plans: “jr moved/ml seconded to ask applicant to submit an rda with replanting plans for trees cut within 30 feet no-disturb buffer.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Administrative determinations for 372 Townsend Harbor Road and 386 Sunset Lane: “rb moved/ml seconded to approve the administrative determination. roll call vote was unanimous in favor.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Continue 205 Sunset Road (Beers Property) appointment item: “jv moved to continue/rb seconded to approve. roll call vote unanimous in favor.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Reimbursement vote for Hollis Road tenant, with proof of payment required: “ml moved/bp seconded to reimburse the tenant for the bill. roll call vote was unanimous in favor.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Sean Kelley bequest to the Commission: “bp said sean kelley of 77 peninsula drive has left his net estate to the conservation commission.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Other decisions (encroachment list, 755 Reservoir Road dock RDA, Hickory Hills DEP number, rolling dock field change, 4 Gabes Place site visit): “214 and 240 townsend harbor road have both written letters confirming that they have removed their encroachment onto town land. they will be removed from the encroachment list going forwards”
  • Town’s minutes only — Absent member and non-commission participants: “associates: mw and rt. not present: cc”

Compared 2026-10-23. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:59:51House Road tenant reimbursement

    A motion to reimburse the tenant from the house road account; the treasurer wants proof the tenant paid.

    as heard:305 dollars and 43 cents

  2. ▶ 3:11:21Goat service for poison ivy

    A motion to authorize payment for goat services at the pollinator habitat.

    as heard:645 dollars650

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:15:3960 South Row Road RDA continued to July 6 for an amended plan.
  • ▶ 3:50:38Site visits moved to the morning of July 1.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Updated plan for stairs 6-9-2022 (as-built plan, 205 Sunset Road)
  • Addendum to Hickory Hills Notice of Intent (new submission as of 6/15/22)
  • Updated plan submitted on 4.25.22 (205 Sunset Lane, John Welton)
  • 6.9.22 plans (238 Fire Road)
  • Notice of Intent (DEP # 208-1260), V and V Lunenburg LLC
  • Invoice from heating, Hollis Road residence
  • Prior NOI for the drawdown (Hickory Hills)
  • Soil report (Hollis Road, vinegar to remove poison ivy)

Heard in the recording

No document was heard referred to.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 38:59A lake resident said the applicant's stairs and decks look reasonable and prevent bank erosion.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:48Opening and public commentinformational · 8:02 long · public comment
  2. ▶ 9:54205 Sunset enforcementvoted · 51:36 long · planning and zoning, legal
  3. ▶ 1:01:42Holmen Street, Northfield Road and South Row Road hearingscontinued · 16:24 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 1:18:27Summer Street, Hickory Hills lake plan and Floor Road hearingscontinued · 55:49 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 2:14:16205 Sunset Lane stairs RDAfailed then continued · 34:50 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 2:49:28New business, administrator report, farewell, adjournmentvarious · 1:08:47 long · planning and zoning, personnel

What the captions could not carry

  • Most vote tallies were read as ayes without the outcome stated.

These are ours, and they are not the record

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