What was said

Conservation Commission, July 6, 2022

the recording · 3:06 long, about 22,096 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 21:19The Conservation Commission approved a negative determination for a septic replacement at 216 Highland Street.
  2. ▶ 1:21:20It approved a negative determination with conditions for a dock and stairs at 205 Sunset Lane: removable dock, two trees, no parking.
  3. ▶ 2:02:38The Hickory Hills lake management plan was continued to July 20; the association will send revised conditions and the administrator and chair will draft their own.
  4. ▶ 2:40:10The commission voted to pursue progressive enforcement, with enforcement orders for three properties and a fourth moved to an order.
  5. ▶ 2:55:26It approved a timber rights fund expense for an engineered driveway plan on Howard Street, plus two GIS payments for trail mapping.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Wetland permits for docks, driveways and septic work decide what a neighbor can build near water, and most of this slate was continued, so those decisions are still open.
  • The timber rights fund, not the tax levy, paid for the driveway engineering and trail mapping approved here, and an expected bequest for conservation land would add to the commission's money.

Watch next

  • July 20 meeting: continued hearings including Hickory Hills lake management, 509 Townsend Harbor Road and the McSweeney filings, plus draft lake conditions.
  • Election of officers, deferred until the full board is present.

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Present: Bob Pease (chair); Jeff Viviano (member); Katie Childs (member); Mike Larouche (member); Mary Wilson (member); Rich Tremblay (associate member); Nadia Madden (conservation administrator); Rich Birch (member (absent)); Patty Adams (member (absent)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 10:25Approve the Lunenburg Central curtain drain as a field change — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed (ayes called by roll call; no nays stated)
  2. ▶ 14:20Ratify emergency certification for tree removal at 16 Roof Street — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed (ayes called by roll call)
  3. ▶ 21:19Negative determination for 216 Highland Street septic RDA — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed (ayes called by roll call)
  4. ▶ 48:08Continue 509 Townsend Harbor Road RDA to July 20passed (ayes called by roll call)
  5. ▶ 52:27Continue 172 Peninsula Drive NOI two weekspassed (ayes called by roll call)
  6. ▶ 1:00:01Continue 207 Fire Road 16 NOI two weeks — moved by Mike, as heardpassed (ayes called by roll call)
  7. ▶ 1:02:28Continue McSweeney Northfield Road NOI to July 20 — moved by Katie, as heardpassed (ayes called by roll call)
  8. ▶ 1:21:20Negative determination for 205 Sunset Lane with conditions: stairs, landing, removable dock, two trees, no parking — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed (ayes called by roll call)
  9. ▶ 1:25:13Negative determination and bylaw waiver for 60 South Row Road roof overhang — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed (ayes called by roll call)
  10. ▶ 1:30:11Approve 42 Summer Street NOI with standard order of conditions — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed (ayes called by roll call)
  11. ▶ 2:02:38Continue Hickory Hills lake management plan NOI to July 20 — moved by Katie, as heardpassed (ayes called by roll call)
  12. ▶ 2:03:39Continue McSweeney Holman Street lot 3 NOI to July 20 — moved by Mike, as heardpassed (ayes called by roll call)
  13. ▶ 2:04:41Continue McSweeney Northfield Road well and water line NOI to July 20passed (ayes called by roll call)
  14. ▶ 2:05:22Continue McSweeney Holman Street lot 4 NOI to July 20passed (ayes called by roll call)
  15. ▶ 2:06:22Continue Fitchburg Land warehouse NOI at 260 Flagg Road to September 7 — moved by Mike, as heardpassed (ayes called by roll call)
  16. ▶ 2:28:07Issue certificate of compliance for 30 Gilchrist Street lots 1 and 2passed (ayes called by roll call)
  17. ▶ 2:28:50Issue certificate of compliance for 50 Pine Street lot 2passed (ayes called by roll call)
  18. ▶ 2:31:21Issue certificate of compliance for 72 Hemlock Drivepassed (ayes called by roll call)
  19. ▶ 2:36:39Accept field change for a 36 by 4 foot removable aluminum dockpassed (ayes called by roll call)
  20. ▶ 2:43:59Approve restoration plan for the enforcement orderpassed (ayes called by roll call)
  21. ▶ 2:49:35Nominate Mary Wilson as representative to the open space committeepassed (ayes called by roll call)
  22. ▶ 2:55:26Approve engineered driveway plan expense for Howard Street from timber rights fundpassed (roll call partly audible)
  23. ▶ 2:58:33Approve completing payment of MRPC GIS billpassed (ayes called by roll call)
  24. ▶ 2:59:16Approve payment to CAI Access GIS for trails layerpassed (ayes called by roll call)

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 3:05:27).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 26 agree, 5 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differs60 South Row Road roof overhang: bylaw waiver▶ 1:25:13

    recording Negative determination and bylaw waiver for 60 South Row Road roof overhang — passed

    town’s minutes “jv moved/cc seconded to issue a negative determination given revised plan.”

    Ours records a bylaw waiver as part of the vote; the official records only a negative determination. Check the recording near t=5113 and the Commission's filed determination for a waiver.

  2. differsFitchburg Land NOI street name (continued to September 7)▶ 2:06:22

    recording Continue Fitchburg Land warehouse NOI at 260 Flagg Road to September 7 — passed

    town’s minutes “ml moved/jv seconded to continue to september 7th.”

    Date and outcome agree, but the address differs (ours 260 Flagg Road; the official structured summary says 260 Fahlulah Road). Check the DEP #208-1265 notice or agenda for the correct street.

  3. differsAbsent member shown as mover of CAI motion▶ 2:59:16

    recording Rich Birch (member (absent))

    town’s minutes “rb moved/ mw seconded moved/ seconded to approve $250 from timber rights revolving fund to pay cai axis gis.”

    Official lists rb as not present yet records rb as mover. Check whether the initials are wrong or the member was present.

5 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Emergency certification address:Ratify emergency certification for tree removal at 16 Roof Street — passed→16 Ruth Street▶ 14:20
  • 50 Pine Street certificate of compliance address:Issue certificate of compliance for 50 Pine Street lot 2 — passed→50 Page St▶ 2:28:50
  • Timber rights fund balance and incoming revenue:Timber rights fund balance and projected harvest revenue: 20 25 grand, 20 29 000→$25k and $29k▶ 2:54:21
  • Attendee: Rich Birch (absent):Rich Birch (member (absent))→Richard Bursch
  • Attendee: Katie Childs:Katie Childs (member)→Catie Childs
In one record only: 4 from the recording, 5 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Sean Kelly estate bequest: Sean Kelly estate bequest to the Conservation Commission: hundreds of thousands of dollars, between 200 and hundred thousand dollars ▶ 3:02:23
  • Recording only — Fines for unanswered enforcement orders: Fines for unanswered enforcement orders: a hundred dollars a day per violation, 300 ▶ 2:47:31
  • Recording only — Dock standards guidance; Lake Shirley report: Commission asked for guidance to the administrator on dock standards; Lake Shirley will report July 20. ▶ 2:22:14
  • Recording only — Hollis Road quotes via assistant town manager: Hollis Road: administrator to check with the assistant town manager about breaking work into windows and insulation and getting quotes. ▶ 2:28:07
  • Town’s minutes only — Review of June 15 minutes: “nm noted that these minutes are not quite complete and will be reviewed at the next meeting.”
  • Town’s minutes only — 411 Goodrich St fines: “bp instructed nadia to start looking at fines as defined by the lunenburg bylaw.”
  • Town’s minutes only — 445 Townsend Harbor Road noncompliance: “nm to look into this site and send a letter of noncompliance as needed.”
  • Town’s minutes only — MassTrails grant to Lunenburg Snow Riders: “lunenburg snow riders won a masstrails grant that will be used to upgrade five conservation properties”
  • Town’s minutes only — Brush mower instead of goats and vinegar: “this will likely cost less and do more to eradicate poison ivy.”

Compared 2026-10-16. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:52:18Engineered driveway plan, Howard Street (Table Rock property)

    The new DPW director wants an engineered plan for a driveway permit; the chair quoted an estimate and asked for approval, to be paid from the timber rights fund.

    as heard:one thousand eight hundred dollars1800eight hundred dollars

  2. ▶ 2:54:21Timber rights fund balance and projected harvest revenue

    The chair said the fund holds a sum now and more is projected from harvests at Reno and Hollis Road, so the commission can pay for the plan.

    as heard:20 25 grand20 29 000

  3. ▶ 2:58:12MRPC GIS bill for trail maps

    A further amount is needed to finish paying MRPC for GIS trail map work, partly covered by an existing purchase order.

    as heard:about a thousand dollars

  4. ▶ 2:59:16CAI Access GIS trails layer

    A payment to the assessor's website GIS vendor so a trails layer can be added.

    as heard:250

  5. ▶ 3:02:23Sean Kelly estate bequest to the Conservation Commission

    The town attorney reported the net estate was left to the commission for conservation land; the chair expects it in about a year.

    as heard:hundreds of thousands of dollarsbetween 200 and hundred thousand dollars

  6. ▶ 2:47:31Fines for unanswered enforcement orders

    The chair suggested progressive fines under the bylaw and gave a rule-of-thumb daily amount.

    as heard:a hundred dollars a day per violation300

  7. ▶ 4:52Mass Trails grant and timber harvesting funds

    A Mass Trails grant was awarded for work on conservation lands; the commission pledged some timber harvesting funds toward materials.

  8. ▶ 2:23:40:Hollis Road poison ivy project: goats replaced by other methods

    The goat project funds approved earlier may be redirected to a brush mower, said to cost less.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 48:08509 Townsend Harbor Road driveway RDA continued to July 20 with the applicant's permission; commissioners asked for a plan showing wetland distances, the old and new driveway, property lines, tree stumps and photos.
  • ▶ 2:02:17Hickory Hills lake management plan: the association will send a revised, categorized conditions document in Word to the administrator by Friday, and the administrator and chair will prepare draft conditions for review July 20.
  • ▶ 2:40:10Commission will pursue progressive enforcement: enforcement orders for 48 Oak Ridge, 23 Cove Road and 54 Pine Grove; 336 Arbor Street moved to enforcement order.
  • ▶ 2:48:34Election of officers deferred until the full board is present.
  • ▶ 2:28:07Hollis Road: administrator to check with the assistant town manager about breaking work into windows and insulation and getting quotes.
  • ▶ 2:30:56939 Northfield Road certificate of compliance: administrator to do due diligence and a site visit, with a vote at a future meeting.
  • ▶ 2:22:14Commission asked for guidance to the administrator on dock standards; Lake Shirley will report July 20.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed nm shared a plan submitted by the magurns:

  • Curtain drain field change plan (Hannigan Engineering)
  • Septic system and grading plan, 216 Highland Street (Graz Engineering)
  • Notice of Intent, 172 Peninsula Drive (Matthew Proctor)
  • Plan marking distances from roof to Little Hickory Lake, 60 South Row Road (Dan Dugas)
  • Addendum to the Notice of Intent (Hickory Hills Association)
  • Remediation plan and photos, EO 4 Gabes Place (Brian Richards)
  • Removable dock plan, 238 Fire Road 16 (the Magurns)
  • Quote from Dillis and Roy for engineered plan
  • MRPC invoice for GIS work on trail maps
  • CAI Axis GIS bill for trails layer
  • Notes from office hours with Town Counsel

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Request for Determination of Applicability, 216 Highland Street (Arnold Dumay)
  • Request for Determination of Applicability, 509 Townsend Harbor Road (Brian Haas)
  • Pictures of driveway prior to paving (Abutter SP)
  • Notice of Intent DEP # 208-1261, Lot 5 Northfield Road (Ed McSweeney)
  • Notice of Intent DEP # 208-1260, 42 Summer Street (V and V Lunenburg LLC)
  • Notice of Intent, Hickory Hills Lake whole lake management plan (Hickory Hills Association)
  • Notice of Intent DEP # 208-1265, 260 Fahlulah Road (Fitchburg Land property owner)
  • Emergency order of conditions, 16 Ruth Street (Kenneth Kohlstrom)
  • Minutes of June 15, 2022
  • Letters of noncompliance (four properties)
  • Howard Street driveway permit application (Table Rock)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 15:00minutes of June 15prior minutes· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Minutes of June 15, 2022”)
  • ▶ 17:26Request for determination for 216 Highland Street septic planplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Request for Determination of Applicability, 216 Highland Street (Arnold Dumay)”)
  • ▶ 23:07plan for 509 Townsend Harbor Road drivewayplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Request for Determination of Applicability, 509 Townsend Harbor Road (Brian Haas)”)
  • ▶ 39:32Town attorney office hours summary and MACC handbook pages on RDAsmemo· in the minutes’ list (“Notes from office hours with Town Counsel”)
  • ▶ 1:37:00whole lake management plan / draft conditions documentdraft policy or bylaw· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Notice of Intent, Hickory Hills Lake whole lake management plan (Hickory Hills Association)”)
  • ▶ 1:01:47DEP comments on notices of intentletter or email· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Notice of Intent DEP # 208-1261, Lot 5 Northfield Road (Ed McSweeney)”)
  • ▶ 1:48:112017 order of conditions for Hickory Hillscontract or agreement· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Emergency order of conditions, 16 Ruth Street (Kenneth Kohlstrom)”)
  • ▶ 2:52:18engineering estimate for Howard Street drivewayplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Howard Street driveway permit application (Table Rock)”)
  • ▶ 3:00:57consultation with town counsel updatememo· in the minutes’ list (“Notes from office hours with Town Counsel”)
  • ▶ 2:57:51MRPC GIS billother· in the minutes’ list (“CAI Axis GIS bill for trails layer”)

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Curtain drain field change plan (Hannigan Engineering); Septic system and grading plan, 216 Highland Street (Graz Engineering); Notice of Intent, 172 Peninsula Drive (Matthew Proctor); Plan marking distances from roof to Little Hickory Lake, 60 South Row Road (Dan Dugas); Addendum to the Notice of Intent (Hickory Hills Association); Remediation plan and photos, EO 4 Gabes Place (Brian Richards); Removable dock plan, 238 Fire Road 16 (the Magurns); Quote from Dillis and Roy for engineered plan; MRPC invoice for GIS work on trail maps.

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 5:33Asked to move up a minor field change for a curtain drain and pipe cleaning at the Lunenburg Central project on Webster/Shirley Road. — Chris Anderson, as heard, engineer for Lunenburg Central project
  2. ▶ 11:46Requested an emergency order to remove a lightning-struck oak tree near the water. — kenneth colstrom, as heard, resident, 16 Roof Street
  3. ▶ 32:17Objected to the retroactive paving of the neighboring driveway at 509 Townsend Harbor Road, citing encroachment, runoff and altered berm, and asked that it be scraped back. — sue petraelia, as heard, abutter, 545 Townsend Harbor Road
  4. ▶ 1:13:42Suggested the commission could approve stairs at 205 Sunset Lane under the Wetlands Protection Act even if zoning approval was still needed. — Paula Burch, as heard, Hickory Hills representative
  5. ▶ 3:03:25Praised the new property signs on conservation land kiosks. — a speaker, new commission member

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:03Opening, roll call, Mass Trails grant announcementinformational · 5:27 long · grants
  2. ▶ 5:33Field change at Lunenburg Central project (curtain drain)voted · 5:53 long · planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 11:26Emergency tree removal at 16 Roof Streetvoted · 3:34 long · public comment
  4. ▶ 15:00Minutes of June 15deferred; not shared · 1:20 long
  5. ▶ 16:20216 Highland Street septic RDAvoted · 6:05 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 22:25509 Townsend Harbor Road driveway paving RDAcontinued to July 20 · 26:31 long · planning and zoning, legal
  7. ▶ 48:56Proctor NOIs: patio at 172 Peninsula Drive and retaining wall at 207 Fire Road 16continued · 12:31 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:01:27McSweeney NOI at Northfield Roadcontinued to July 20 · 2:06 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:03:33205 Sunset Lane dock and stairs RDAvoted · 19:14 long · planning and zoning, recreation
  10. ▶ 1:22:4760 South Row Road roof overhang RDAvoted · 3:08 long · planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 1:25:55Marijuana retail redevelopment at 42 Summer Street NOIvoted · 5:42 long · planning and zoning, economic development
  12. ▶ 1:31:37Hickory Hills whole lake management plancontinued to July 20 · 31:41 long · planning and zoning, recreation
  13. ▶ 2:03:18Additional McSweeney, Holman Street and Fitchburg Land warehouse hearingscontinued · 3:46 long · planning and zoning, economic development
  14. ▶ 2:07:04132 Hemlock Drive dock discussioninformational · 15:10 long · recreation, legal
  15. ▶ 2:22:14Encroachment updates and Hollis Road maintenanceinformational · 5:53 long · facilities
  16. ▶ 2:28:07Certificates of compliancevoted · 3:57 long · planning and zoning
  17. ▶ 2:32:04Enforcement: field change dock, non-compliance letters, restoration planvoted · 12:36 long · planning and zoning, legal
  18. ▶ 2:44:40More enforcement and finesinformational · 3:54 long · legal
  19. ▶ 2:48:34Election of officers and committee representativesdeferred; voted open space representative · 2:41 long · personnel
  20. ▶ 2:51:15Howard Street driveway engineering, MRPC GIS bill, GIS trails layervoted · 9:42 long · budget, roads and dpw
  21. ▶ 3:00:57Town counsel update, Kelly estate, sign thanks, adjournmentadjourned · 5:12 long · legal

What the captions could not carry

  • Whether the 205 Sunset Lane motion's vote count was stated beyond individual roll-call ayes; Mary Wilson's voting status was sometimes unclear.
  • Whether the minutes of June 15 were approved — captions show the minutes had not been shared and no vote is evident.
  • The outcome of the vote on the Howard Street engineered plan appears to lack a recorded 'Mary' aye; roll call is partially garbled.
  • Many roll-call names and 'aye' responses are garbled or merged into one word.
  • Whether the stormwater task force representative was filled — no volunteer is evident.
  • Exact timber rights fund amounts and Kelly estate figures are unreliable.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 2:54:21Conservation timber fundHow much is in the Conservation Commission's timber rights fund and what is it being spent on?
  • ▶ 3:02:23Kelly estate bequestHow much will the Conservation Commission receive from the Sean Kelly estate and what can it be spent on?

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