What was said

Conservation Commission, September 7, 2022

the recording · 3:04 long, about 19,237 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 48:54The Conservation Commission continued most wetlands hearings, including 137 Chase Road and the Fitchburg Land Owner LLC hearing, and held several for missing DEP file numbers.
  2. ▶ 37:00It issued negative determinations for the 4 Kimball Street sewer extension and for 362 Townsend Harbor Road, and approved 37 Spring Street with a standard order of conditions.
  3. ▶ 1:57:10The commission voted to have applicants pay newspapers directly for hearing ads, because those fees go to the general fund rather than the conservation budget.
  4. ▶ 2:59:44It approved a Smart Sign trail-sign purchase order from the timber rights fund, an annual exterminator contract, and a used water tank and cinder blocks for the pollinator habitat.
  5. ▶ 2:20:41The Sunny Hill Road Chapter 61B right of first refusal was left on the agenda for a later meeting, and election of officers was deferred until all members can participate.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Fees for hearing ads now go from applicants straight to newspapers instead of into the general fund, so the conservation budget no longer handles them.
  • Budgets for the Hollis Road and timber rights revolving funds were not yet set, so bills could not yet be paid from them.
  • The town's right of first refusal on the Sunny Hill Road parcel is still undecided, and the minutes record no funds currently available to buy land.

Watch next

  • Continued hearings return September 21, including 137 Chase Road and 507 Townsend Harbor Road; the Fitchburg Land Owner LLC hearing is set for October 5.
  • The Sunny Hill Road 61B right of first refusal returns to a future agenda so absent members can weigh in.

grantsplanning and zoningpublic commentrecreation

Present: Mary (acting chair) (chair); Jeffrey Viviano (member); Katie Childs (member); Mike Larouche (member, remote); Richard Trembley (member, remote); Nadia (conservation agent); Bob Pease (member (absent)); Richard Bursh (member (absent)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 7:27Allow the owl prowl to proceed as planned.passed (Trembley treated as abstaining)
  2. ▶ 29:44Approve the Eagle Scout trail restoration project.passed
  3. ▶ 37:00Negative determination of applicability for sewer extension at 4 Kimball Street.passed (one abstention, Katie Childs)
  4. ▶ 48:54Continue the 137 Chase Road hearing to September 21.passed
  5. ▶ 1:12:30Continue the 451 Townsend Harbor Road hearing.passed 4 votes
  6. ▶ 1:33:39Negative determination for 362 Townsend Harbor Road.passed
  7. ▶ 1:36:53Continue the 408 Electric Ave RDA to the 21st.passed
  8. ▶ 1:37:54Continue the 507 Townsend Harbor Road RDA to September 21.passed
  9. ▶ 1:52:38Approve 37 Spring Street as designed with a standard order of conditions.passed
  10. ▶ 1:54:00Continue the Fitchburg Land Owner LLC hearing to October 5.passed
  11. ▶ 1:57:10Change policy so applicants pay newspapers directly for advertising.passed
  12. ▶ 2:40:19Purchase a used water tank and cinder blocks for the pollinator habitat.passed
  13. ▶ 2:44:48Approve the annual exterminator contract.passed
  14. ▶ 2:59:44Approve a purchase order for Smart Sign trail signs from the timber rights fund.passed

And 2 procedural: approve minutes of august 17. (▶ 9:57); adjourn. (▶ 3:03:33).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 20 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 0 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Chase Road hearing address:Continue the 137 Chase Road hearing to September 21. — passed→127 Chase Road▶ 48:54
  • RDA continuation street number on Townsend Harbor Road:Continue the 507 Townsend Harbor Road RDA to September 21. — passed→509 Townsend Harbor Road▶ 1:37:54
  • Exterminator per-treatment price:Hollis Road exterminator contract: 495 dollars a year, 160 or 180 dollars→$160 per treatment▶ 2:42:02
  • Katie Childs name:Katie Childs (member)→Caitie Childs
In one record only: 5 from the recording, 5 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — SmartSign other figures: Smart Sign purchase order from timber rights fund: 700, 506.88, 202 ▶ 2:56:18
  • Recording only — Hollis Road revolving fund balance: Hollis Road revolving fund balance: 59 000 258 and 33 cents ▶ 2:39:15
  • Recording only — Sunny Hill Road 61B parcel sale figures: Sale of a Chapter 61B parcel on Sunny Hill Road: 95 000, 120 days ▶ 2:19:01
  • Recording only — Eagle Scout project funding: Eagle Scout project funding: 300 ▶ 22:55
  • Recording only — Election of officers deferred: Election of officers deferred until all members can participate. ▶ 1:55:00
  • Town’s minutes only — Owl Prowl donation amount: “which will ask for voluntary donations of $10 for the walk.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Goodrich Street plan submission: “mw requested that nm have him give a submission”
  • Town’s minutes only — Pollinator habitat fencing quotes: “ml will provide quotes from online vendors, and also from maki.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Exterminator contract vs bid check: “nm to see if there are any issues with setting up a contract or if a bid process is needed at this level.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Non-commission attendees and applicants: “peter cowley from 72 peninsula presented their request for a funded organization permit for owl prowl”

Compared 2026-10-16. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:55:20Revolving fund budgets (Hollis Road and timber rights)

    Budgets for the two revolving funds have not been set because the town accountant is on vacation, so bills cannot yet be paid from them.

  2. ▶ 1:56:02Advertising fees for hearings

    Ad fees paid by applicants go to the general fund rather than the conservation budget, so the commission voted to have applicants pay the newspapers directly.

  3. ▶ 2:32:12Pollinator habitat purchases

    Volunteers asked for a used water tank, cinder blocks and deer fencing; the tank and blocks were approved from petty cash, and fencing needs vendor quotes.

    as heard:a hundred dollarstwenty dollarsnine hundred dollars1020

  4. ▶ 2:39:15Hollis Road revolving fund balance

    The agent reported the fund balance as enough to cover the maintenance and purchases.

    as heard:59 000 258 and 33 cents

  5. ▶ 2:42:02Hollis Road exterminator contract

    Commission approved an annual pest contract with the current vendor; emergency visits cost extra.

    as heard:495 dollars a year160 or 180 dollars

  6. ▶ 2:30:50Hollis Road window bids and counter tops

    Two window bids are in with a third due later in September; counter top numbers are preliminary.

  7. ▶ 2:56:18Smart Sign purchase order from timber rights fund

    Commission approved a purchase order for replacement trail signs from the timber rights fund.

    as heard:700506.88202

  8. ▶ 2:19:01Sale of a Chapter 61B parcel on Sunny Hill Road

    The town has a right of first refusal; the agreed sale price was mentioned and no funds for land purchase are available at present.

    as heard:95 000120 days

  9. ▶ 22:55Eagle Scout project funding

    Gravel for the parking area was estimated and covered by family funds.

    as heard:300

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 2:20:41Sunny Hill Road 61B right of first refusal to be left on the agenda for a future meeting so absent members can weigh in.
  • ▶ 2:26:49Commission will hold a site walk on the 17th and the agent will tell the Woodland Drive homeowner.
  • ▶ 2:50:22Owners of 205 Sunset will be called to the September 21 meeting.
  • ▶ 2:12:37Agent will convey to the zoning board the commission's note that the Pondview Commons site is within an ACEC.
  • ▶ 3:01:27Richard Trembley volunteered as the commission's representative on the stormwater committee.
  • ▶ 1:55:00Election of officers deferred until all members can participate.
  • ▶ 48:13Agent to look into the one-year cooling-off rule regarding the wetlands consultant who previously worked for the town.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Funded organization permit application for Owl Prowl (walk on 9/8, Lane property)
  • Request for Determination of Applicability by Gregory S. Roy, 4 Kimball Street
  • Notice of Intent by Christian and Allison Martin, 127 Chase Road
  • Notice of Intent by Ryan Proctor, 451 Townsend Harbor Road
  • Undated plan with 30 and 50 foot buffers, Andrew Leblanc RDA, 362 Townsend Harbor Road
  • Updated plan with drainage swale, Marsden Engineering, 37 Spring Street
  • DEP file #208-1270 (issued for 37 Spring Street)
  • Notice of Intent (DEP # 208-1265), Fitchburg Land property Owner LLC, 260 Fahlulah Road
  • Ransford Environmental quote, 1 year exterminator plan, 123 Hollis Road
  • SmartSign purchase order, Timber Rights Fund
  • Trails grant paperwork
  • Pond View Commons 40B, ZBA comments
  • Plan by David Blatt, EO 411 Goodrich St

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 5:39funded organization permit application for owl prowlapplication or permit· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Funded organization permit application for Owl Prowl (walk on 9/8, Lane property)”)
  • ▶ 9:36minutes of August 17th meetingprior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 16:23Eagle Scout slide presentationpresentation, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 31:28sewer extension plan, 4 Kimball Streetplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Request for Determination of Applicability by Gregory S. Roy, 4 Kimball Street”)
  • ▶ 39:05existing conditions and proposed site plans, 137 Chase Roadplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Notice of Intent by Christian and Allison Martin, 127 Chase Road”)
  • ▶ 52:27plans for 451 Townsend Harbor Roadplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Notice of Intent by Ryan Proctor, 451 Townsend Harbor Road”)
  • ▶ 1:14:39detailed retaining wall drawing, 362 Townsend Harbor Roadplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Undated plan with 30 and 50 foot buffers, Andrew Leblanc RDA, 362 Townsend Harbor Road”)
  • ▶ 1:46:13septic plan, 37 Spring Streetplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Updated plan with drainage swale, Marsden Engineering, 37 Spring Street”)
  • ▶ 1:58:14comprehensive permit application, Pondview Commonsapplication or permit, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Funded organization permit application for Owl Prowl (walk on 9/8, Lane property)”)
  • ▶ 2:12:58notice of intent to sell, Sunny Hill Roadletter or email, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Notice of Intent by Christian and Allison Martin, 127 Chase Road”)
  • ▶ 2:23:33reply from 100 Woodland Drive ownersletter or email, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:42:02Ransford extermination proposalcontract or agreement, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Ransford Environmental quote, 1 year exterminator plan, 123 Hollis Road”)
  • ▶ 2:57:19Smart Sign invoicesother, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“SmartSign purchase order, Timber Rights Fund”)

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 4:15Resident organizing an owl prowl at the Lane property asked for approval to hold it the next evening. — Peter Cowley, as heard, resident
  2. ▶ 1:38:36Abutter to the 507 Townsend Harbor Road driveway paving request questioned repeated continuances and alleged stalling. — Sue Petraelia, as heard, abutter
  3. ▶ 27:35Local business owner offered funding help to the Eagle Scout. — Greg Roy, as heard, local business owner
  4. ▶ 1:08:37Abutter spoke in favour of keeping an open mind about angled stone walls. — Ramstein, as heard, abutter

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:03Call to order and roll callinformational · 4:12 long
  2. ▶ 4:15Owl prowl requestvoted · 5:01 long · public comment, recreation
  3. ▶ 9:36Approval of minutesvoted · 2:29 long
  4. ▶ 12:05New volunteer introductioninformational · 3:57 long
  5. ▶ 16:02Eagle Scout trail project at Clarks Hillvoted · 14:25 long · recreation
  6. ▶ 30:48Sewer extension RDA, 4 Kimball Streetvoted · 7:36 long · planning and zoning, water sewer
  7. ▶ 38:24Notice of intent, 137 Chase Roadcontinued · 12:39 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 51:03Notice of intent, 451 Townsend Harbor Roadcontinued · 22:52 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:13:55RDA retaining walls, 362 Townsend Harbor Roadvoted · 21:09 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 1:36:08RDA reseeding, 408 Electric Avecontinued · 1:26 long · planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 1:37:34RDA driveway paving, 507 Townsend Harbor Roadcontinued · 5:33 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  12. ▶ 1:43:07Notice of intent, septic at 37 Spring Streetvoted · 10:32 long · planning and zoning, water sewer
  13. ▶ 1:53:39Fitchburg warehouse notice of intentcontinued · 1:21 long · planning and zoning
  14. ▶ 1:55:00Revolving fund budgets and advertising feesvoted · 2:31 long · fees, budget
  15. ▶ 1:57:31Pondview Commons 40B comments to zoning boardinformational · 15:27 long · planning and zoning, housing
  16. ▶ 2:12:58Sunny Hill Road 61B right of first refusalreferred · 9:11 long · planning and zoning
  17. ▶ 2:22:09Encroachment updatesinformational · 8:21 long · planning and zoning
  18. ▶ 2:30:30Hollis Road residence maintenance and purchasesvoted · 15:38 long · budget, facilities
  19. ▶ 2:46:08Enforcement actions and office recordsinformational · 9:09 long · planning and zoning, legal
  20. ▶ 2:55:17Open space and trail signs purchase ordervoted · 5:49 long · budget, recreation
  21. ▶ 3:01:06Stormwater committee representative and adjournmentvoted · 3:31 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Whether Richard Trembley's vote was counted on the owl prowl (treated as abstained)
  • Mike Larouche's final vote on adjournment (frozen, technically abstaining)
  • Mover and seconder identities in several motions
  • Whether the final adjournment motion was formally recorded as passing
  • Some Zoom and sharing exchanges were garbled

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