What was said

Conservation Commission, September 21, 2022

the recording · 2:00 long, about 12,722 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 18:07The Conservation Commission approved a septic replacement at 290 New West Townsend Road with standard conditions, by unanimous roll call.
  2. ▶ 1:07:22It approved the 451 Townsend Harbor Road house filing, with one member recused, and approved homes on Lots 3 and 4 Holman Street unanimously.
  3. ▶ 50:25Three hearings, at 408 Electric Ave, 509 Townsend Harbor Road and 127 Chase Road, were continued to October 5 for missing plan details or a DEP file number.
  4. ▶ 1:31:00The commission accepted the encroachment fix at 100 Woodland Drive and approved a purchase order for pollinator-habitat fencing to protect new trees from deer.
  5. ▶ 1:57:54It appointed Richard Tremblay to the stormwater committee, and put off the election of officers because not all members were present.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Wetlands approvals set the conditions for septic systems and new homes near protected resources, and an applicant whose plan is incomplete waits a full meeting cycle for a decision.
  • The fencing purchase is a small town expense, chosen from three quotes, that shows how the commission spends on habitat work.

Watch next

  • The October 5 meeting, when the 408 Electric Ave, 509 Townsend Harbor Road and 127 Chase Road hearings resume.
  • The future meeting where the commission is to hold its election of officers.

planning and zoningpolicyrecreationtown departments

Present: Mary (chair) (chair); Jeff Viviano (member); Katie Childs (member); Mike LaRoche (member); Richard Tremblay (Rich friendly) (member); Nadia (conservation agent/staff). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 18:07Approve the septic replacement at 290 New West Townsend Road with standard order of conditions — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed unanimously by roll call
  2. ▶ 37:13Continue the 408 Electric Ave request for determination to October 5passed unanimously by roll call
  3. ▶ 40:25Continue the 509 Townsend Harbor Road request for determination to October 5passed unanimously by roll call
  4. ▶ 50:25Continue the 127 Chase Road notice of intent to October 5 pending a DEP file numberpassed unanimously by roll call
  5. ▶ 1:07:22Approve the 451 Townsend Harbor Road notice of intent (plan dated the 19th) with standard order of conditions — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed by roll call; one member recused
  6. ▶ 1:13:56Approve the Lot 3 Holman Street notice of intent with standard order of conditionspassed unanimously by roll call
  7. ▶ 1:16:46Approve the Lot 4 Holman Street notice of intent with standard order of conditions — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed unanimously by roll call
  8. ▶ 1:26:26Accept the remediation of encroachment at 100 Woodland Drivepassed unanimously by roll call
  9. ▶ 1:31:00Approve a purchase order for pollinator habitat fencing — moved by Mike LaRoche, as heardpassed unanimously by roll call
  10. ▶ 1:35:15Approve certificate of compliance for the 1988 order of conditions at 100 Woodland Drive — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed by roll call
  11. ▶ 1:36:36Note that the 2002 order of conditions at 100 Woodland Drive has lapsed and is no longer valid — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed by roll call
  12. ▶ 1:41:14Approve the administrative determination to cut three trees at Fire Road with one two-inch caliper replacement tree — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed by roll call
  13. ▶ 1:57:54Formally appoint Richard Tremblay as the commission's representative on the stormwater committeepassed unanimously by roll call

And 2 procedural: accept the september 7th minutes as distributed (▶ 4:37); adjourn (▶ 1:59:21).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 13 agree, 2 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsSecond 100 Woodland Drive order (2002 / DEP# 208-681)▶ 1:36:36

    recording Note that the 2002 order of conditions at 100 Woodland Drive has lapsed and is no longer valid — passed by roll call

    town’s minutes “jv/cc m/s to approve certificate of compliance for ooc dep# 208-681, noting that the work approved was not started by the owner.”

    Ours records a vote noting the order lapsed; the official minutes record a certificate of compliance approved for it. Check the recording near t=5796 and the commission's file for what was actually voted, and whether 208-681 is the 2002 order.

  2. differsStormwater Committee appointment tally▶ 1:57:54

    recording Formally appoint Richard Tremblay as the commission's representative on the stormwater committee — passed unanimously by roll call

    town’s minutes “official vote needed to appoint him the stormwater committee roll call vote, unanimous to approve (rt abstained)”

    The official minutes record that RT (Richard Tremblay) abstained, and do not name the appointee; ours says unanimous and names Tremblay as the appointee. Check the recording for the appointee and whether he abstained from his own appointment.

2 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Attendee Katie Childs:Katie Childs (member)→Catie Childs
  • Attendee Mike LaRoche:Mike LaRoche (member)→Michael Larouche
In one record only: 4 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — DEP habitat study and filing fees for shoreline wall: DEP habitat study and filing fees for shoreline wall: two or three thousand dollars ▶ 1:01:56
  • Recording only — Election of officers postponed: Election of officers was put off to a future meeting because not all members were present. ▶ 1:17:48
  • Recording only — 75 West Street enforcement order taken off agenda: The 75 West Street enforcement order was taken off the agenda. The homeowners will work directly with the conservation agent on revegetation and removal of erosion controls. ▶ 1:51:40
  • Recording only — Lake Shirley floating mat removal notice acknowledged: The commission only acknowledged the Lake Shirley floating mat removal notice, since it was already covered by an approved order of conditions. ▶ 1:20:32
  • Town’s minutes only — Letter of non-compliance, 691 Chase Road: “nm to issue a letter of non-compliance for the property requesting an rda for the work already performed in the buffer.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Hollis Road windows and lawnmower: “ml said the town has received 3 quotes for the replacement of windows at 123 hollis road.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Absent members and other participants: “roll call: mw (acting chair), jv, cc, ml, rt absent: bp, rb”

Compared 2026-10-16. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:29:57Pollinator habitat fencing purchase

    The lowest of three quotes was from Home Depot, and a purchase order for it was approved to protect new trees from deer.

    as heard:944.63

  2. ▶ 1:01:56DEP habitat study and filing fees for shoreline wall

    An applicant's engineer said a shoreline stone wall would require a costly habitat study and higher DEP filing fees, so the applicant dropped it.

    as heard:two or three thousand dollars

  3. ▶ 1:32:02Hollis Road residence window quotes

    Three quotes were in for window replacement at the Hollis Road residence, with one more day open. Quotes for kitchen cabinets and countertops were also starting to arrive.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:17:48Election of officers was put off to a future meeting because not all members were present.
  • ▶ 1:51:40The 75 West Street enforcement order was taken off the agenda. The homeowners will work directly with the conservation agent on revegetation and removal of erosion controls.
  • ▶ 1:20:32The commission only acknowledged the Lake Shirley floating mat removal notice, since it was already covered by an approved order of conditions.
  • ▶ 30:39The commission asked the 408 Electric Ave applicant to update the plan to show the driveway, gravel and other existing features before it would act.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Updated plan signed on 9.14.22 (451 Townsend Harbor Road NOI)
  • New updated plan signed on 9.19.22 (451 Townsend Harbor Road NOI)
  • Revised plan dated 8.31.22 (lots 3 and 4 Holman St)
  • Lunenburg wetlands bylaw section 10.4.1
  • Photos from site visit, 100 Woodland Drive
  • Email from Marsha Beers (205 Sunset, Beers lot)
  • Plan for Howard Street driveway, by Dillis and Roy, under DPW review
  • Engineer's plan requested by the Conservation Commission (Hannigan), 509 Townsend Harbor Road
  • Notice of Intent (DEP # 208-1271), 451 Townsend Harbor Road

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 3:55Minutes of September 7thprior minutes· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 7:33Septic system plan for 290 New West Townsend Roadplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“New updated plan signed on 9.19.22 (451 Townsend Harbor Road NOI)”)
  • ▶ 19:53Plan for 408 Electric Aveplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Plan for Howard Street driveway, by Dillis and Roy, under DPW review”)
  • ▶ 1:29:57Fencing quotesother· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 58:03451 Townsend Harbor Road plan set, revised 9/19plan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“New updated plan signed on 9.19.22 (451 Townsend Harbor Road NOI)”)
  • ▶ 1:10:11Holman Street plan, 8/23/22plan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Revised plan dated 8.31.22 (lots 3 and 4 Holman St)”)
  • ▶ 1:27:54Hollis Road caretaker contractcontract or agreement· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Call to order, announcements, prior minutesvoted · 5:40 long
  2. ▶ 5:44290 New West Townsend Road septic replacementvoted: approved · 13:06 long · planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 19:10408 Electric Ave determination of applicabilitycontinued to October 5 · 18:46 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 38:17509 Townsend Harbor Road driveway pavingcontinued to October 5 · 2:28 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 41:07127 Chase Road demolition and rebuild, no DEP numbercontinued to October 5 · 9:38 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 51:05451 Townsend Harbor Road house, trees and shoreline wallvoted: approved · 16:57 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 1:08:22Lot 3 and Lot 4 Holman Street homesvoted: both approved · 9:04 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:17:48New business: officers, Lake Shirley mats, Girl Scouts benchinformational · 5:52 long · recreation
  9. ▶ 1:24:01Encroachment at 100 Woodland Drivevoted: remediation accepted · 3:31 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 1:27:32Hollis Road residence: caretaker contract, fencing, windowsvoted on fencing purchase · 6:38 long · contracts and unions, facilities
  11. ▶ 1:34:13Certificates of compliance and tree-cutting determinationvoted · 7:42 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 1:41:55Enforcement: 75 West Street, Goodrich Street, 205, 691 Chase Roadinformational · 13:55 long · planning and zoning
  13. ▶ 1:55:50Open space, committee reports, adjournmentvoted: stormwater appointment; adjourned · 4:40 long · planning and zoning

What the captions could not carry

  • Roll-call responses for some votes (for example Katie and Jeff at times) are partly garbled.
  • The vote counts for the Woodland Drive certificate votes and the Fire Road tree vote are not fully spelled out in the captions.
  • Jeff Viviano's response on the pollinator fencing vote is rendered 'all right'.
  • The adjournment vote result is not clearly stated.

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