What was said

Conservation Commission, October 5, 2022

the recording · 2:40 long, about 17,882 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 33:04The commission rejected the water district's request to waive abutter notice on a long Mass Ave water main, requiring notice to abutters within the 100-foot buffer zone.
  2. ▶ 37:11The water district will notify those abutters and return October 19; the hearing will be re-advertised.
  3. ▶ 56:04The commission approved the 10 Maple Parkway septic RDA 5-2, but a later redo vote on its negative determination was not fully audible.
  4. ▶ 1:11:31A negative determination for the 408 Electric Avenue RDA passed 3-2 with one recusal, and the commission approved the Girl Scouts' recycled-plastic bench.
  5. ▶ 2:33:06The commission voted to tell the Board of Selectmen it is not interested in the 35 Leominster Road land offer.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Abutters within 100 feet of the Mass Ave water main route will get formal notice before the commission rules on a project that digs near wetlands.
  • The Hollis Road house rent and gift fund, and the cost of the window contract, are spending the commission is still reviewing, and they bear on how conservation money is used.
  • The Leominster Road decision means the commission will not take the offered 17 acres, so that parcel will not come into conservation land through this route.

Watch next

  • October 19: the water district returns to the commission with abutter notice given and the hearing re-advertised.
  • November 2: continued hearings for 509 Townsend Harbor Road and 260 Falula Road; officer elections wait until Katie Childs can attend.

contracts and unionsfacilitiesgrantshousingplanning and zoningpolicypublic comment

Present: Bob Pease (chair, remote); Jeff Viviano (member, remote); Mike larouche (member, remote); Mary Wilson (member (co-host), remote); Rich Tremblay (member, remote); Rich Burch (member, remote); Katie Childs (member (absent)); Nadia (conservation administrator); Anthony Cleaves (presenter (Haley Ward, for the water district)); Nick Pauling (presenter (Goldsmith Preston Ringwald, engineer)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 14:13Approve bench installation as recommended by the Girl Scouts — moved by Mary Wilson, as heardpassed (roll call, no dissent heard)
  2. ▶ 18:05Deny the abutter-notification waiver request — moved by Richard Burch, as heardfailed for lack of a second
  3. ▶ 26:14Approve the waiver — moved by Jeff, as heardfailed for lack of a second
  4. ▶ 33:04Reject the waiver and require abutter notification for abutters within the 100-foot buffer zone — moved by Mary Wilson, as heardpassed (roll call; no dissent heard)
  5. ▶ 56:04Approve the 10 Maple Parkway septic system RDA — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed 5-2
  6. ▶ 59:15Approve the 127 Chase Road notice of intentpassed (roll call, no dissent heard)
  7. ▶ 1:11:31Negative determination for the 408 Electric Avenue RDA — moved by Jeff, as heard3 in favor, 2 opposed, 1 recusal; chair deemed it passed
  8. ▶ 1:23:59Continue the 509 Townsend Harbor Road RDA to November 2passed (roll call)
  9. ▶ 1:25:28Continue the 260 Falula Road notice of intent to November 2passed (roll call)
  10. ▶ 1:27:13Negative determination for the 10 Maple Parkway RDA (redo of the earlier vote)two members said they would vote no; final tally not audible
  11. ▶ 2:02:05Issue certificate of compliance for 160 Mass Avepassed (roll call, no dissent heard)
  12. ▶ 2:04:56Issue certificate of compliance for the septic system at 135 Island Roadpassed (roll call, no dissent heard)
  13. ▶ 2:05:16Close out two old enforcement orders at 135 Island Roadpassed (roll call, no dissent heard)
  14. ▶ 2:33:06Inform the Board of Selectmen the commission is not interested in the 35 Leominster Road land — moved by Richard Burch, as heardpassed (roll call, no dissent heard)

And 2 procedural: approve minutes of the previous meeting (▶ 5:43); adjourn (▶ 2:39:22).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 12 agree, 5 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differs10 Maple Parkway septic RDA tally▶ 56:04

    recording Approve the 10 Maple Parkway septic system RDA — passed 5-2

    town’s minutes “jv/mw m/s to approve the rda with a negative determination.”

    Ours counts 5-2 and the structured official reading says 4-2. Six members were present, so 5-2 cannot be right and 4-2 fits. Check the recording near t=3364 for the roll call.

  2. differs10 Maple Parkway RDA second (redo) vote▶ 1:27:13

    recording Negative determination for the 10 Maple Parkway RDA (redo of the earlier vote) — two members said they would vote no; final tally not audible

    town’s minutes “jv/mw m/s to approve the rda with a negative determination.”

    Ours has two votes on this item, the second a redo with no audible tally. The official minutes show one vote. Check whether the first was voided and which tally stands.

5 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • 260 Falula/Fahlulah Road continuance:Continue the 260 Falula Road notice of intent to November 2 — passed (roll call)→260 Fahlulah Road▶ 1:25:28
  • Island Road certificate of compliance (septic):Issue certificate of compliance for the septic system at 135 Island Road — passed (roll call, no dissent heard)→39 Island Road▶ 2:04:56
  • Island Road enforcement orders closed:Close out two old enforcement orders at 135 Island Road — passed (roll call, no dissent heard)→39 Island Road▶ 2:05:16
  • Attendee: Rich Burch:Rich Burch (member)→Richard Bursch▶ 0:00
  • Attendee: Katie Childs (absent):Katie Childs (member (absent))→Catie Childs▶ 0:00
In one record only: 7 from the recording, 5 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Two waiver motions that died for lack of a second: Deny the abutter-notification waiver request — failed for lack of a second; Approve the waiver — failed for lack of a second ▶ 18:05
  • Recording only — Hollis Road rent / gift fund figures: Hollis Road house rent and Haws gift fund: 10 000 800 a year, 50 Grand ▶ 1:44:43
  • Recording only — Pollinator habitat fencing cost: Pollinator habitat fencing: 944.63 cents, nine hundred dollars ▶ 1:43:18
  • Recording only — 35 Leominster Road offer to sell: Offer to sell 35 Leominster Road: 1.3 million dollars, a hundred grand, 12-year note ▶ 2:30:31
  • Recording only — Election of officers deferred: Election of officers deferred until Katie Childs can be present. ▶ 1:28:56
  • Recording only — Chair says member may get price quotes: The chair told the member that he may obtain price quotes without prior authorization and bring proposals back for a vote. ▶ 1:49:39
  • Recording only — November time for land improvement plan: Time to be set aside in November to review the conservation land improvement plan for grant ideas. ▶ 2:37:15
  • Town’s minutes only — Alternate member to monitor the meeting room: “mw suggested that the conscomm designate an alternate member to take on the role of monitoring the”
  • Town’s minutes only — Hollis Road account use for pollinator funding: “bp asked that the commission that when considering pollinator habitat funding requests that”
  • Town’s minutes only — 104 Woodland Drive encroachment, barn/lawnmower, Howard Street driveway: “bp to reach out personally to the property owner.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Trails grant reimbursement update: “update on trails grant: the town has been reimbursed for the trails grant, it has all been spent.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Other presenters, applicants and guests: “girl scouts leanne taylor and katie daykin from troop 64501 presented their project”

Compared 2026-10-16. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:44:43Hollis Road house rent and Haws gift fund

    Tenant rent goes into the Hollis Road account / Haws gift fund, meant for maintaining the property. The chair said the balance is healthy but the pollinator habitat should not treat it as a blank check.

    as heard:10 000 800 a year50 Grand

  2. ▶ 1:43:18Pollinator habitat fencing

    Fencing approved at the last meeting still needs a purchase order before it can be bought.

    as heard:944.63 centsnine hundred dollars

  3. ▶ 1:39:24Window contract at Hollis Road

    The window contract with the low bidder is being prepared, and the commission wants to see the bottom-line cost before approving expenditure.

  4. ▶ 2:30:31Offer to sell 35 Leominster Road

    A landowner offered 17 acres to the commission at a stated price with financing over a note.

    as heard:1.3 million dollarsa hundred grand12-year note

  5. ▶ 2:34:11Mass Trails grant and trails grant reimbursement

    The town has been reimbursed for the trails grant, though some work remains. A member wants to apply for another grant in the new year.

  6. ▶ 1:47:34Lawnmower servicing

    A mower for the habitat needs servicing; an applicant offered free diagnosis and service.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 37:11The water district will notify abutters within the 100-foot buffer zone and return October 19; the hearing will be re-advertised.
  • ▶ 1:28:56Election of officers deferred until Katie Childs can be present.
  • ▶ 1:49:39The chair told the member that he may obtain price quotes without prior authorization and bring proposals back for a vote.
  • ▶ 2:22:49No vote to reconsider the Housing Authority RDA requirement; the administrator offered to help them file.
  • ▶ 2:26:14The administrator will escalate several non-compliance letters to enforcement orders.
  • ▶ 2:37:15Time to be set aside in November to review the conservation land improvement plan for grant ideas.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • MACC Handbook
  • Updated site plan dated 10/4/22 (408 Electric Avenue)
  • Lunenburg Housing Authority letter to LCC (131 White Street)
  • Notice of Intent DEP 208-1273 (127 Chase Road)
  • Notice of Intent DEP # 208-1265 (260 Fahlulah Road)
  • Peer review (260 Fahlulah Road)
  • Engineering drawings (509 Townsend Harbor Road)
  • Letters of non-compliance (48 Oak Ridge, 54 Pine Grove, 23 Cove Road, 336 Arbor St)
  • Application for Howard Street driveway for Table Rock
  • Pollinator garden fencing purchase order

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 8:12Girl Scouts bench presentationpresentation, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 16:23waiver request / RDA submissionapplication or permit, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 24:11applicant's wetlands diagramplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 40:19septic planplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:01:01Electric Avenue planplan or drawing, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Updated site plan dated 10/4/22 (408 Electric Avenue)”)
  • ▶ 1:29:17MACC manual / RDA guidereport, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:35:12application checklistother· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Application for Howard Street driveway for Table Rock”)
  • ▶ 2:06:22As-built compliance letter for 160 Mass Aveletter or email· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Letters of non-compliance (48 Oak Ridge, 54 Pine Grove, 23 Cove Road, 336 Arbor St)”)
  • ▶ 2:08:28Housing Authority letterletter or email, shown· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Lunenburg Housing Authority letter to LCC (131 White Street)”)
  • ▶ 2:29:31Letter to the Board of Selectmen on 35 Leominster Roadletter or email, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:31:12Map of the propertyplan or drawing, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 2:15:09A Housing Authority resident board member asked to remove dead and leaning trees at White Street for liability reasons and to transplant seedlings; said black walnuts there are endangered. — a speaker, resident board member of the Housing Commission
  2. ▶ 2:17:14A Housing Authority board member apologized for miscommunication from staff and said funding for tree replacement is inadequate; accepted the offer of help with the RDA. — a speaker, member of the Housing Authority
  3. ▶ 2:39:01A resident asked why the commission did not want to buy land offered at 1.5 million. — Sam Walsh, as heard, resident

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:02Opening, roll call, co-host roleinformational · 5:28 long
  2. ▶ 5:22Minutes approvalvoted · 1:58 long
  3. ▶ 7:20Girl Scout bench proposalvoted · 7:40 long · recreation
  4. ▶ 15:14Water main RDA and waiver of abutter notificationwaiver denied; hearing to be re-advertised · 24:16 long · planning and zoning, water sewer
  5. ▶ 39:1710 Maple Parkway septic RDAvoted 5-2 · 18:33 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 57:49127 Chase Road notice of intentvoted · 2:31 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 1:00:19408 Electric Avenue RDAvoted 3-2 with a recusal · 23:00 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:23:19Continued hearings and Maple Parkway redo votecontinued; negative determination vote not fully heard · 4:41 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:28:14Election of officers and RDA requirementsdiscussed · 9:26 long · policy
  10. ▶ 1:37:38Encroachments, Hollis Road house, pollinator habitat and fund useinformational · 24:02 long · facilities, grants
  11. ▶ 2:01:44Certificates of compliance and enforcement closurevoted · 4:16 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 2:05:38Housing Authority White Street tree requestno motion to reconsider · 18:12 long · housing, public comment
  13. ▶ 2:23:52Enforcement updates and trails grantinformational · 5:58 long · grants
  14. ▶ 2:29:31Land offer at 35 Leominster Roadvoted not interested · 4:19 long · economic development
  15. ▶ 2:33:51Grant ideas for next roundinformational · 5:09 long · grants
  16. ▶ 2:39:01Public comment and adjournmentadjourned · 1:04 long · public comment

What the captions could not carry

  • Tally on the second Maple Parkway negative determination vote (about 5253) not fully heard
  • Several roll calls where the captions record only one or two members' answers
  • Whether a second was properly made on some motions (Girl Scouts bench, Chase Road)

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 1:44:43Hollis Road house fundHow much is in the Hollis Road / Haws gift fund, what flows in from rent, and what does the house need in upkeep?

These are ours, and they are not the record

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