What was said

Conservation Commission, December 7, 2022

the recording · 2:09 long, about 15,010 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 19:58The Conservation Commission voted to require relocation of a greenhouse at 23 Cope that sits within the wetland buffer; the roll call was 4 to 1 as heard.
  2. ▶ 22:23The applicants will work with the administrator on a schedule to relocate or remove the greenhouse, and she will update the commission.
  3. ▶ 36:48The commission approved a retaining-wall filing at 42 Pearl Street and a wetland boundary determination at 400 Leominster Shirley Road.
  4. ▶ 56:45It approved three Lake Shirley retaining-wall filings on Round Road, each with pre-construction meeting and construction schedule conditions.
  5. ▶ 1:16:11The commission approved two certificates of compliance on Cross Road, and the chair and one member will pursue conservation grants due at the end of January.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Owners with structures inside a wetland buffer can be ordered to move them, and neighbors citing past exceptions did not change the outcome here.
  • Lakefront owners planning retaining walls on Lake Shirley face approval conditions, and the commission's conservation land trail and parking grants may bring cash matches from the Timber rights fund.

Watch next

  • The administrator's update on the greenhouse relocation schedule and her review of old enforcement orders before the next meeting.
  • The amount of the increase to the kiosk materials purchase order, deferred to the next meeting, and the grant applications due at the end of January.

grantslegalpersonnelplanning and zoningpolicyrecreation

Present: Mr. chairman (Bob) (chair); Rich Burch / Rich Bursch (member); Jeff Viviano (member); Mike Larouche (member); Mary Wilson (member); Rich Tremblay (member); Anna Petrie (conservation administrator); Chris Anderson (presenter); Matt Murrell (presenter); Anthony Cleaves (presenter). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 19:58Require relocation of the greenhouse at 23 Cope to a place permitted under current wetlands regulations — moved by Mary Wilson, as heardpassed 4-1 as heard on roll call (one member's vote unclear); Rich Burch, Viviano, Wilson, Tremblay aye
  2. ▶ 36:48Approve the NOI at 42 Pearl Street, with no lake access without a field change — moved by Richard Burch, as heardpassed
  3. ▶ 43:51Approve the ANRAD at 400 Leominster Shirley Road — moved by Mike, as heardpassed
  4. ▶ 56:45Approve NOI at 47 Round Road with pre-construction meeting and construction schedule conditions — moved by Rich (as heard), as heardpassed
  5. ▶ 57:28Approve NOI at 57 Round Road, same conditions — moved by Rich (as heard), as heardpassed
  6. ▶ 58:14Approve NOI at 73 Round Road, same conditions — moved by Rich (as heard), as heardpassed
  7. ▶ 1:14:04Approve certificate of compliance for 57 Cross Road — moved by Mike, as heardpassed
  8. ▶ 1:16:11Approve certificate of compliance for 63 Cross Roadpassed

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of november 16, 2022 (▶ 4:20); adjourn (▶ 2:07:38).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 8 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 7 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsGreenhouse at 23 Cope / 23 Cove Rd vote▶ 19:58

    recording Require relocation of the greenhouse at 23 Cope to a place permitted under current wetlands regulations — passed 4-1 as heard on roll call (one member's vote unclear); Rich Burch, Viviano, Wilson, Tremblay aye

    town’s minutes “mw/ml m/s to have the greenhouse removed or the homeowner to submit an rda for the relocation of the greenhouse.”

    The tally differs (4-1 vs unanimous) and so does the action (relocate to a permitted place vs remove or file an RDA); check the recording at this roll call and the official roll call. 'Cope' is probably a caption error for 'Cove'.

  2. differsTimber Rights Fund balance▶ 1:00:38

    recording Timber rights fund balance: 20 grand

    town’s minutes “currently $21,061 in the timber rights fund and”

    '20 grand' vs $21,061 is not a digit-grouping error; the speaker may have rounded, so check the recording.

  3. differs23 Cope greenhouse follow-up▶ 22:23

    recording Applicants at 23 Cope will work with the administrator on a schedule to relocate or remove the greenhouse, and she will update the commission; no further vote needed.

    town’s minutes —

    The official minutes record no schedule or administrator follow-up, only the vote; check the recording against the vote above.

  4. differs192 Townsend Harbor and town attorney▶ 59:56

    recording 192 Townsend Harbor to come off future agendas; the chair will go to the Select Board to ask that the town attorney be authorized.

    town’s minutes —

    A decision in our minutes that the official minutes do not record; check the recording and the agenda.

  5. differsGrant applications decision▶ 2:04:48

    recording Chair and Mary Wilson to pursue grant applications due end of January, with Mary included in the call with the grant contact.

    town’s minutes —

    The official minutes record no grant decision; check the recording.

  6. differsHoward Street driveway funding

    recording —

    town’s minutes “bp will be in contact with boh and the board of selectman about funding for the driveway”

    The official minutes record a decision that ours omits; check the recording for the Howard Street discussion.

  7. differsTenant discussion at Hollis Road

    recording —

    town’s minutes “bp suggested to discuss with the tenant any removal of items off of the property.”

    The official minutes record this and ours does not; it may be related to the Hollis Road discussion.

In one record only: 4 from the recording, 5 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Furnace cleaning at Hollis Road rental: Furnace cleaning at the Hollis Road rental: 290 dollar ▶ 1:07:44
  • Recording only — Mackie's purchase order increase for kiosk materials: Increase to the purchase order at Mackie's for kiosk materials: a thousand dollars ▶ 1:24:15
  • Recording only — Grant strategy figure: Grant strategy: 20 of the cost ▶ 2:06:14
  • Recording only — Presenter Anthony Cleaves: Anthony Cleaves (presenter)
  • Town’s minutes only — Expected timber harvest receipts: “an expected $6,000 from the hawes harvest and expected $21,000 from the rayno harvest, minus”
  • Town’s minutes only — Chainsaw safety class location: “bp said the class will take place on the rayo property.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Absent member Catie Childs: “roll call: bp, jv, ml, mw, rt, rb absent: cc”
  • Town’s minutes only — Associate member Sam Welch: “sam welch, associate member”
  • Town’s minutes only — Tracee and Robert Galloni, applicants: “tracee & robert galloni were representing themselves for the hearing of the eo for the construction of a”

Compared 2026-10-14. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:00:38Hollis Road account and Timber rights fund balances

    Chair reported balances in both accounts and that the budget update was posted in the cloud.

    as heard:60 Grand20 grand

  2. ▶ 1:06:42Hollis Road kitchen project and house work

    Kitchen cabinet and counter replacement is being quoted and bids have come in within budget, with the budget not shared with vendors.

  3. ▶ 1:07:44Furnace cleaning at the Hollis Road rental

    A furnace cleaning is scheduled and the cost was recalled only roughly.

    as heard:290 dollar

  4. ▶ 1:24:15Increase to the purchase order at Mackie's for kiosk materials

    Chair proposed increasing the PO, as the Treasurer said it could be raised, and deferred the amount to the next meeting.

    as heard:a thousand dollars

  5. ▶ 2:06:14Grant strategy

    Chair prefers grants with a cash match from the Timber rights fund rather than in-kind donations.

    as heard:20 of the cost

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 22:23Applicants at 23 Cope will work with the administrator on a schedule to relocate or remove the greenhouse, and she will update the commission; no further vote needed.
  • ▶ 59:56192 Townsend Harbor to come off future agendas; the chair will go to the Select Board to ask that the town attorney be authorized.
  • ▶ 1:20:45Administrator to review old enforcement orders and visit sites before the next meeting.
  • ▶ 2:04:48Chair and Mary Wilson to pursue grant applications due end of January, with Mary included in the call with the grant contact.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 5:21Applicant at 23 Cope on the greenhouse near the wetland, plantings and past collaboration with the former agent
  2. ▶ 10:13Applicant says the greenhouse is on the only flat part of the lot, cites deeds and plans showing a storm water culvert not maintained by Hickory Hills, and asks for leniency
  3. ▶ 21:42Applicant will take the greenhouse down, disputes the claim of work after the stop order, and says exceptions have been made for others
  4. ▶ 23:23Applicant asks how wetlands are determined and why other structures within the buffer were allowed

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:02Meeting setup, recording, and introduction of new administratorinformational · 3:57 long
  2. ▶ 3:59Approval of November 16 minutes and roll callvoted · 1:22 long · policy
  3. ▶ 5:21Enforcement at 23 Cope: greenhouse within wetland buffervoted to require relocation · 21:59 long · legal, planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 27:20NOI for retaining wall at 42 Pearl Street, Lake Shirleyvoted · 10:50 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 38:10ANRAD for 400 Leominster Shirley Roadvoted · 6:52 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 45:02Three retaining wall NOIs on Round Roadvoted, each with conditions · 14:54 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 59:56Old business: 192 Townsend Harbor, budget update, timber harvest, and Hollis Road property updateinformational · 9:31 long · town departments, facilities
  8. ▶ 1:09:27Certificates of compliance for 57 and 63 Cross Roadvoted · 8:31 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:17:58Enforcement orders, timber sale, kiosk PO, and trail work updatesinformational · 9:22 long · town departments, grants
  10. ▶ 1:27:44Discussion of possible conservation grant projects, trails, parking and access on conservation landno resolution · 39:54 long · grants, recreation, planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 2:07:38Adjournmentvoted · 1:45 long

What the captions could not carry

  • The roll call count on the greenhouse relocation vote is unclear; Mike Larouche's aye is not clearly captured, and the first roll call entry looks garbled.
  • Several roll calls are partly garbled, and the vote tallies were not stated.
  • The exact amount of the proposed PO increase and the remaining funds were not settled.
  • The figures for the Hollis Road and timber accounts are unreliable as heard.
  • Several grant deadlines and project costs were not stated clearly.

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