What was said

Conservation Commission, December 21, 2022

the recording · 1:41 long, about 11,571 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:04:36The Conservation Commission voted by roll call, all five aye, to apply for an RTP planning grant for engineering at Table Rock, the Cowdery platform road and the Reno property.
  2. ▶ 1:16:56It voted unanimously to authorize a grant application for a picnic area at the Small Town Forest.
  3. ▶ 1:31:25Two certificates of compliance, for 90 Hemlock Drive and 37 Spring Street, each passed on a five-member roll call.
  4. ▶ 10:23A resident asked for controlled discharge of water pumped from a water district test well near Hickory Hills Lake; staff will contact the district and it goes on a future agenda.
  5. ▶ 5:15The December 7 minutes were not voted because the draft was not circulated, and no decision was made on moving from Google Drive to OneDrive.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The grant applications would put town conservation land money, matched by state funds, toward engineering and a picnic area on public land, and the engineering cost was not yet known when the vote was taken.
  • The Hickory Hills well discharge question touches a lake and wetlands near homes, and the commission has so far only set it for a later agenda.

Watch next

  • The chair said engineering quotes would come back for a vote in January if the numbers are available.
  • The 23 Cove Road owner is to be placed on the first January meeting agenda, and the Hickory Hills well discharge is to go on a future agenda.

budgetgrantsplanning and zoningpolicypublic commenttechnologytown departmentswater sewer

Present: Bob peas (chair); Rich burst (member); Jeff Viviano (member); Mike larouche (member); Mary Wilson (member); Rich Tremblay (member); Anna Petrie (conservation administrator); Rebecca (staff (land use office, referenced)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 1:04:36Authorize the commission to apply for an RTP planning grant for engineering plans for Table Rock, Cowdery viewing platform road, and Reno property parking/driveway — moved by Rich, as heardpassed (roll call: all five members voted aye)
  2. ▶ 1:16:56Authorize Mary to apply for a grant for a picnic area at the Small Town Forestpassed (roll call: all five members voted aye)
  3. ▶ 1:31:25Approve certificate of compliance for 90 Hemlock Drive — moved by Rich, as heardpassed (roll call: all five members voted aye)
  4. ▶ 1:32:08Approve certificate of compliance for 37 Spring Streetpassed (roll call: all five members voted aye)

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 1:40:46).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 7 agree, 1 caption error resolved by the official reading, 1 substantive difference. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsNumber of members voting on roll call▶ 1:04:36

    recording roll call: all five members voted aye

    town’s minutes “roll call: bp, jv, ml, mw, rt, rb”

    Official roll call lists six members present (Catie Childs absent); ours says five voted. Check the recording for how many voted.

1 caption error the town’s minutes resolve
  • Site names in grant vote (Cowdery / Reno):Cowdery viewing platform road, and Reno property→Harold Harley Wildlife Viewing Platform; Rayno Conservation Area▶ 1:04:36
In one record only: 4 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — RTP grant matching funds and engineering estimate: Matching funds for RTP planning grant: every four dollars; Engineering cost estimate: not a clue ▶ 59:44
  • Recording only — Microsoft license cost: Microsoft license cost: 50 87, 57 or 87 ▶ 1:23:50
  • Recording only — Engineering quotes back for January vote: Chair will bring engineering quotes back for a vote in January if numbers are available. ▶ 1:02:08
  • Recording only — 23 Cove Road enforcement, 205 Sunset, OneDrive, Land Trust, Hickory Hills agenda, draft minutes: 23 Cove Road owner to be placed on first January meeting agenda; new enforcement order for the shed/greenhouse on advice of town counsel. ▶ 1:35:02
  • Town’s minutes only — Timber Rights Fund balance and receipts: “currently $21,061 in the timber rights fund and an expected $6,000 from the hawes harvest”
  • Town’s minutes only — Hollis Road revolving fund balance: “the balance on the hollis road revolving fund is at $60,000.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Absent member and other named people: “roll call: bp, jv, ml, mw, rt, rb absent: cc”

Compared 2026-10-14. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 59:44Matching funds for RTP planning grant

    The chair said the commission would commit matching funds from the timber rights fund, with the state putting up several dollars for each one the commission puts up. Engineering cost was not yet known.

    as heard:every four dollars

  2. ▶ 1:00:26Engineering cost estimate

    A member asked what engineering would cost for the three sites; the chair said no estimate yet and that the engineer would provide a quote to hold for a year and a quarter.

    as heard:not a clue

  3. ▶ 1:26:24Mackie's purchase order

    The chair said the prior year's PO was not closed out, so there is enough money in the Mackie's POs for kiosks and other needs.

  4. ▶ 1:23:50Microsoft license cost

    The chair said the town pays per commercial Outlook license, which carries drive capacity; cost was not seen as a deciding factor.

    as heard:50 8757 or 87

  5. ▶ 1:11:26Grant eligibility of pavilion

    The chair doubted whether the RTP grant would pay for a shade pavilion and suggested it be a later phase.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 10:23Administrator Anna to contact the water district about the start date of the well pumping and share Mr. Fortune's written request, and erosion controls to be discussed with them.
  • ▶ 17:40Hickory Hills well discharge to be put on a future agenda; Fortune to email request to Anna Petrie.
  • ▶ 5:15Draft minutes of December 7 not voted on tonight; staff to address circulation process.
  • ▶ 20:44Order of conditions extension not heard tonight because it is not needed (expiration pushed by COVID-19 extension order).
  • ▶ 1:02:08Chair will bring engineering quotes back for a vote in January if numbers are available.
  • ▶ 1:35:0223 Cove Road owner to be placed on first January meeting agenda; new enforcement order for the shed/greenhouse on advice of town counsel.
  • ▶ 1:37:33205 Sunset owner to be emailed that failure to deliver engineered plans will lead to an enforcement order.
  • ▶ 1:19:07Chair to get more information from Rebecca after the holidays on switching from Google Drive to OneDrive; no decision made.
  • ▶ 1:30:00Mike asked to respond to North County Land Trust about Hollis Road (Haws) property maintenance questions.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 5:36Asked the commission to require a retention pond and controlled discharge for water pumped from the Lunenburg water district well during a 12-month study, to protect Hickory Hills Lake and wetlands. — John Fortune, as heard, President, Hickory Hills Landowners Inc.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Open meeting notice and roll callinformational · 2:06 long
  2. ▶ 2:06Announcements; certification congratulations; December 7 minutes not circulatedminutes not voted · 3:30 long · policy
  3. ▶ 5:36Public comment: Hickory Hills well discharge and erosion concernsstaff to contact water district; future agenda · 13:25 long · public comment, water sewer
  4. ▶ 19:01Order of conditions extension requestno hearing needed · 2:03 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 21:04Conservation land improvement plans and RTP planning grant (Table Rock, Cowdery platform, Reno property)voted to authorize application · 43:32 long · grants, capital
  6. ▶ 1:05:22Small Town Forest picnic area grant proposalvoted to authorize application · 12:34 long · grants, recreation
  7. ▶ 1:17:56Email and Google Drive vs OneDriveno decision · 8:28 long · technology
  8. ▶ 1:26:24Mackie's PO update and Hollis Road property maintenanceinformational · 4:17 long · budget, facilities
  9. ▶ 1:30:41Certificates of compliance (90 Hemlock Drive, 37 Spring Street)both voted · 2:11 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 1:32:52Enforcement: 23 Cove Road, 205 Sunset, RDAsdirection to staff · 7:54 long · planning and zoning, legal
  11. ▶ 1:40:46Adjournmentvoted · 1:04 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Cost of engineering for the three sites was not stated.
  • Some of the roll call responses were garbled (names rendered as Rich burst/Rich all right); counts inferred from listed ayes are as heard.
  • Meeting ID and passcode digits are as the captions render them.

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