What was said
Conservation Commission, April 19, 2023
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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 18:51The Conservation Commission gave a positive determination on a shed at 380 Sunset Lane, meaning it cannot be built as proposed; one member recused as an abutter.
- ▶ 42:02The commission continued the Marshall Park skate park hearing at 100 Chestnut Street to May 3rd.
- ▶ 1:03:01The commission continued the 39 Main Street parking lot hearing to May 3rd; the applicant is to clarify trees and add a retaining wall detail.
- ▶ 1:06:58The commission approved an amended order of conditions for 137 Flynn Road and the removal of three trees at 360 New West Townsend Road with native replacement.
- ▶ 1:37:35A certificate of compliance for 12 Alder Way was tabled two weeks while the administrator searches for the original plans.
Why it matters — our reading
- The skate park and the Main Street parking lot and playground relocation are both still unapproved, so neither project can move to construction until the commission closes its hearings.
- The 12 Alder Way delay shows that a missing set of original plans can stall a certificate of compliance, which a property owner may need to close out an earlier approval.
Watch next
- Conservation Commission meeting on May 3rd: continued hearings for the skate park and 39 Main Street, with updated plans due before it.
- Two weeks out: the tabled certificate of compliance for 12 Alder Way, after the administrator's search for plans.
planning and zoningpolicypublic commentrecreationtown departments
Present: Bob Pease (chair); Rich Birch (member); Mike larouche (member); Mary Wilson (member); Rich Tremblay (member, remote); Anna Petrie (conservation administrator); Greg Roy (presenter); Chris Saint-Germain (member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 18:51Positive determination (denial) on the shed RDA at 380 Sunset Lane — moved by Richard, as heardpassed; roll call votes of yes by the members voting, one member recused as abutter
- ▶ 42:02Continue skate park NOI at 100 Chestnut Street to May 3rdpassed by roll call
- ▶ 1:03:01Continue 39 Main Street NOI to May 3rd — moved by Mike, as heardpassed by roll call
- ▶ 1:06:58Approve amended order of conditions for 137 Flynn Road (Richie) — moved by Mary, as heardpassed by roll call
- ▶ 1:09:37Approve purchase order from the timber rights fund to buy trail markers from Voss Signspassed by roll call
- ▶ 1:28:40Allow removal of three trees at 360 New West Townsend Road with one-for-one native replacement — moved by Mary, as heardpassed by roll call
And 2 procedural: approve minutes of april 5th (▶ 5:49); adjourn (▶ 1:41:05).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 8 agree, 3 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.
recording Positive determination (denial) on the shed RDA at 380 Sunset Lane — passed; roll call votes of yes by the members voting, one member recused as abutter
town’s minutes “rb/mw m/s to issue positive determination for request for determination. roll call vote, unanimous to approve.”
The official minutes record a unanimous vote and no recusal; ours records a recusal and labels it a denial. Check the recording at this time for a recusal and for whether the determination was positive.
recording Allow removal of three trees at 360 New West Townsend Road with one-for-one native replacement — passed by roll call
town’s minutes “mw/rb m/s to approve administrative determination for 360 new west townsend road. roll call vote, unanimous to approve.”
Both record approval of the removal of three trees, but the official minutes record no one-for-one native replacement condition. Check the recording and the determination for that condition.
- differsChris Saint-Germain listed as member
recording Chris Saint-Germain (member)
town’s minutes “roll call: bp, mw, rt, ml, rb absent: cc, jv”
The official roll call has no Saint-Germain; it lists Catie Childs (cc) and Jeffrey Viviano (jv) as absent. Check the recording to see whether this is a misheard name or someone else present.
3 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
- Applicant surname on amended order of conditions:Richie→Ritchie▶ 1:06:58
- Member name Rich Birch:Rich Birch (member)→Richard Bursch
- Member name Mike larouche:Mike larouche (member)→Michael Larouche
In one record only: 6 from the recording, 5 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Skate park fundraising figures: Skate park fundraising: over two hundred thousand dollars, north of fifty thousand dollars ▶ 26:25
- Recording only — Earth Day volunteer time value: Value of volunteer time on Earth Day events: close to 200 man hours, six thousand dollars ▶ 1:11:00
- Recording only — Skate park applicant to add trees on updated plan: Skate park applicant to show trees to be removed and add replacement trees on an updated plan before the May 3rd continuation. ▶ 41:41
- Recording only — Main Street applicant plan clarifications: Main Street applicant to clarify trees removed/kept, verify trees in the detention area, and add a retaining wall detail before the next meeting. ▶ 59:27
- Recording only — Letter to Beers lot applicants: Administrator to send a letter to the Beers lot applicants requiring updated plans by May 3rd or 17th or appearance before the commission. ▶ 1:39:02
- Recording only — Earth Day report to the select board: Commission supported Mary and the administrator giving an Earth Day project report to the select board on May 2nd. ▶ 1:11:42
- Town’s minutes only — 950 Chase Road encroachment: “950 chase road - to be discussed with town attorney.”
- Town’s minutes only — Hollis Road tenant tour: “bp states that the facilities director and commission should coordinate a time with the tenant for a tour.”
- Town’s minutes only — 110 Pleasant St Lot 2 removal from agendas: “110 pleasant st, lot 2-to be removed from future agendas.”
- Town’s minutes only — Enforcement case EO 23 Cove Road: “will remain open until greenhouse is removed.”
- Town’s minutes only — Absent members: “roll call: bp, mw, rt, ml, rb absent: cc, jv”
Compared 2026-10-13. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 1:08:36Timber rights fund purchase order for trail markers
Chair sought approval of a purchase order for trail markers because the green, red and blue ran out.
as heard:955
- ▶ 26:25Skate park fundraising
The skate park group reported funds raised and pledged in-kind donations.
as heard:over two hundred thousand dollarsnorth of fifty thousand dollars
- ▶ 1:11:00Value of volunteer time on Earth Day events
Mary estimated volunteer hours at a dollar value using Mass Trails compensation rates.
as heard:close to 200 man hourssix thousand dollars
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 41:41Skate park applicant to show trees to be removed and add replacement trees on an updated plan before the May 3rd continuation.
- ▶ 59:27Main Street applicant to clarify trees removed/kept, verify trees in the detention area, and add a retaining wall detail before the next meeting.
- ▶ 1:21:49Administrator to ask the Hollis Road tenant for monthly documentation of required work hours.
- ▶ 1:37:35Certificate of compliance for 12 Alder Way tabled two weeks while the administrator searches for plans and contacts the Village at Flat Hill trustees.
- ▶ 1:39:02Administrator to send a letter to the Beers lot applicants requiring updated plans by May 3rd or 17th or appearance before the commission.
- ▶ 1:11:42Commission supported Mary and the administrator giving an Earth Day project report to the select board on May 2nd.
Public comment
- ▶ 2:50A resident asked whether he can lawn-seed his yard under his original order of conditions and cut a half-cut tree previously permitted; told to go ahead.
- ▶ 13:32An abutter on Lake Shirley fully endorsed the Sunset Lane shed project.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- planning and zoning80 min · 79%
- recreation24 min · 24%
- legal9 min · 9%
- facilities9 min · 9%
- public comment6 min · 6%
- grants5 min · 5%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:05Opening, roll call, announcements, public commentinformational · 5:44 long · public comment
- ▶ 5:49Approval of April 5th minutesvoted · 1:02 long
- ▶ 6:51RDA for shed at 380 Sunset Lanepositive determination · 16:49 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 23:42NOI for skate park and drainage basin at 100 Chestnut Streetcontinued to May 3rd · 19:02 long · recreation, planning and zoning
- ▶ 42:44NOI for parking lot and playground relocation at 39 Main Streetcontinued to May 3rd · 21:36 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:04:23Amended order of conditions, 137 Flynn Roadapproved · 3:52 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:08:15Timber rights fund purchase and Earth Day updatevoted · 5:05 long · grants, recreation
- ▶ 1:13:20Encroachments and Hollis Road property updatesinformational · 9:10 long · legal, facilities
- ▶ 1:22:30Administrative determination for tree removal at 360 New West Townsend Roadapproved with replacement · 6:50 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:29:24Certificate of compliance for 12 Alder Waytabled · 8:36 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:38:17Beers lot, other updates, committee reportsinformational · 2:48 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:41:05Adjournmentvoted · 0:35 long
What the captions could not carry
- Roll call counts on several votes were captioned only as rough 'I'/'hi' responses; individual votes not clearly attributed.
- The sequence of votes on the Sunset Lane RDA is partly garbled.
- Captions around 295-349 are missing or contain only 'morning'.
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