What was said

Conservation Commission, August 16, 2023

the recording · 2:48 long, about 18,897 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 39:02The commission approved the skate park notice of intent at 100 Chestnut Street with standard conditions, by roll call.
  2. ▶ 29:09It issued negative determinations on the Electric Ave drainage RDA and the Mascarelli tree removal RDA at 131 Island Road.
  3. ▶ 2:18:58It approved four certificates of compliance, with one abstention on the Sunset Lane certificate.
  4. ▶ 59:53The Korea garage, Eaton deck and Sunset Lane dock hearings were each continued to a September date.
  5. ▶ 2:31:53Members heard that the conservation office lacks a full-time head and has a large hours deficit; HR discussed a part-time hire.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Permits for docks, decks, garages and tree work near wetlands are slowed when the conservation office is short of staff, and one applicant was told a certificate of compliance was deferred for that reason.
  • The commission also capped a Hollis Road painting job at trim only this fiscal year because the combined quotes passed a ten thousand dollar limit, a purchasing threshold that shapes how town building upkeep is split up.

Watch next

  • Continued hearings on the Korea garage and 205 Sunset Lane dock return on 9/6, and the Eaton deck hearing on 9/20.
  • The mushroom signage disclaimer wording is tabled to the next meeting.

facilitiesgrantshiringpersonnelplanning and zoningpublic commentstaffingtown departments

Present: Mary Wilson (chair, addressed as Mary / Madam chair) (chair); Bob Pease (member, remote); Richard Trembly (member); Mike larouche (member); Chris St Germain (member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 9:12Approve the owl prowl.passed (roll call, unanimous per chair)
  2. ▶ 29:09Negative determination of applicability for 429-433 Electric Ave drainage RDA.passed (roll call)
  3. ▶ 39:02Approve the skate park NOI at 100 Chestnut Street with standard order of conditions.passed (roll call, Chris could not vote)
  4. ▶ 59:53Continue the Korea garage hearing at 932 Flat Hill Road to 9/6.passed (roll call)
  5. ▶ 1:08:13Negative determination for the Mascarelli tree removal RDA at 131 Island Road.passed (roll call)
  6. ▶ 1:37:02Continue the Eaton deck hearing at 441 Townsend Harbor Road to 9/20.passed (roll call)
  7. ▶ 2:16:03Continue the 205 Sunset Lane hearing to 9/6.passed (roll call)
  8. ▶ 2:18:58Certificate of compliance for 54 Pine Acres.passed (roll call)
  9. ▶ 2:20:46Certificate of compliance for 43 Summer Street.passed (roll call)
  10. ▶ 2:22:28Certificate of compliance for 386 Sunset Lane.passed (roll call, Richard abstained)
  11. ▶ 2:24:18Certificate of compliance for 475 Shirley Road.passed (roll call)
  12. ▶ 2:41:03Approve painting the trim at 123 Hollis Road this fiscal year.passed (roll call)

And 2 procedural: approve may 17th meeting minutes. (▶ 14:23); adjourn. (▶ 2:48:04).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 12 agree, 2 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 5 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsSkate park NOI vote, 100 Chestnut Street▶ 39:02

    recording Approve the skate park NOI at 100 Chestnut Street with standard order of conditions. — passed (roll call, Chris could not vote)

    town’s minutes “motion: mike l., second: rich b. to approve the skate park noi as proposed. roll call vote was unanimous to approve.”

    Ours says Chris could not vote and the approval carried standard conditions. The official minutes say the vote was unanimous and give no conditions. Official also has Rich B. seconding, though he is listed absent. Check the recording and the roll call.

  2. differsContinuance of Korea garage hearing, 932 Flat Hill Road, to 9/6▶ 59:53

    recording Continue the Korea garage hearing at 932 Flat Hill Road to 9/6. — passed (roll call)

    town’s minutes —

    Ours records a continuance vote. The official minutes list no vote on this hearing, so check whether it was continued and to what date.

  3. differsContinuance of Eaton deck hearing, 441 Townsend Harbor Road, to 9/20▶ 1:37:02

    recording Continue the Eaton deck hearing at 441 Townsend Harbor Road to 9/20. — passed (roll call)

    town’s minutes “they want to see a plan noting the piers, with an accurate reference to the high water mark and not overhang into the resource area.”

    Ours records a continuance vote. The official minutes record only the commission's requirement for a plan and no vote or date, so check for a continuance vote.

  4. differsContinuance of 205 Sunset Lane hearing to 9/6▶ 2:16:03

    recording Continue the 205 Sunset Lane hearing to 9/6. — passed (roll call)

    town’s minutes “it appeared that no one was present and the commission agreed to vote for a continuance.”

    The official minutes mention a continuance but give no motion, roll call or date. Ours records a roll-call vote to 9/6. Check the recording and the date.

  5. differsChase Road litigation approval▶ 2:31:11

    recording Select board gave approval to proceed with litigation on the Chase Road encroachment.

    town’s minutes “bob received approval to proceed with litigation on the chase road encroachment.”

    Both record approval, but the official minutes do not say who gave it. Check whether the Select Board gave it, as ours says.

2 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Applicant name, 131 Island Road:Mascarelli→Masciarelli▶ 1:08:13
  • Attendee Richard Tremblay:Richard Trembly (member)→Rich Tremblay
In one record only: 2 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Office staffing hours: Conservation office staffing: 300 hours, 10 hours a week ▶ 2:31:53
  • Recording only — Public access video on commission rules: Public access video on commission rules floated for members to consider; no decision. ▶ 2:28:06
  • Town’s minutes only — Magurn certificate of compliance deferred: “mary stated that they cannot address it tonight because they do not have administrative staff to walk the property.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Bob Pease to meet with Julie about a 10-hour temp: “bob will be meeting with julie about hiring a 10 hour temp to help out.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Emergency orders counter-signed: “adam burney issued 3 emergency orders and bob counter-signed them.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Absent members: “absent: rich b., jeff v .”

Compared 2026-10-09. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:38:52Hollis Road painting quote

    Painter quoted trim and the rest of the building separately; together just over the ten thousand limit, so only trim approved this year.

    as heard:forty eight hundred dollarssixty four hundred dollarsten thousand

  2. ▶ 2:30:08Parking area grant award

    The commission publicized a grant award for parking areas to the select board and a press release was sent to the Ledger.

  3. ▶ 2:31:53Conservation office staffing

    Office lacks a full-time head and is working against a large hours deficit; HR discussed a part-time hire and salary strategy.

    as heard:300 hours10 hours a week

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 2:31:11Select board gave approval to proceed with litigation on the Chase Road encroachment.
  • ▶ 2:37:49Mushroom signage disclaimer wording tabled to the next meeting.
  • ▶ 15:44Sue and Gary ropiak tree removal discussion tabled as they did not join.
  • ▶ 2:28:06Public access video on commission rules floated for members to consider; no decision.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 4:59Presented an owl prowl application for September 29th on the Lane property, up to 25 people, no fee. — Peter Cowley, as heard, resident, 72 Peninsula
  2. ▶ 10:13Asked whether his certificate of compliance would be seen; told it was deferred because of office staffing shortage. — a speaker, applicant, 238 Fire Road 16
  3. ▶ 56:20Asked that butterfly bushes in the Korea planting plan be replaced with native shrubs. — Jenny Albertson, as heard, 50 Upland Avenue, pollinator habitat volunteer
  4. ▶ 2:06:15Explained the lower deck size resulted from available lumber during covid and a misunderstanding of the negative determination. — Marsha, as heard, applicant, 205 Sunset Lane

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Recording and openinginformational · 2:47 long
  2. ▶ 2:47Roll call and owl prowlvoted · 7:06 long · public comment, recreation
  3. ▶ 9:53Certificate question and May 17th minutesvoted · 5:51 long · public comment, staffing
  4. ▶ 15:44Electric Ave drainage RDAvoted · 14:11 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 29:55Skate park NOI at 100 Chestnut Streetvoted · 10:12 long · planning and zoning, recreation
  6. ▶ 40:07Korea garage NOI at 932 Flat Hill Roadcontinued · 20:48 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  7. ▶ 1:00:55Mascarelli tree removal RDAvoted · 8:40 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:09:35Eaton deck amended ordercontinued · 28:14 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:39:20205 Sunset Lane dock NOIcontinued · 37:49 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  10. ▶ 2:17:09Certificates of compliancevoted · 8:10 long · planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 2:25:39New business, select board update, staffing, emergency ordersinformational · 11:04 long · staffing, hiring, grants
  12. ▶ 2:36:43Old business, Hollis Road, pollinator habitatvoted · 11:21 long · facilities, recreation
  13. ▶ 2:48:04Adjournmentvoted · 0:23 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Bob Pease's response on the owl prowl vote is rendered unclearly.
  • Address of the third emergency order on Hemlock Road was not settled.
  • Some speaker identities are mangled in captions.

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