What was said

Conservation Commission, September 20, 2023

the recording · 2:36 long, about 18,142 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:20:04The Conservation Commission voted to approve a garage at 932 Flat Hill Road, but will hold the approval until an updated state wetlands form page arrives.
  2. ▶ 29:25Hearings on 38 Oak Ridge Road and 6 Peninsula Drive were continued to October 4 for lack of a DEP file number, with the applicants given a list of items to supply.
  3. ▶ 2:27:51The commission voted to require 10 Mass Ave to file a Request for Determination of Applicability and to formally close the town beach erosion enforcement.
  4. ▶ 1:26:42A certificate of compliance was issued for 238 Fire Road 16, and an enforcement order for 39 Island Road is to be issued, allowing only stabilization work meanwhile.
  5. ▶ 1:58:57The commission voted to spend from the Haas fund on a pollinator habitat plant order, and the administrator announced she is moving and cannot do site visits.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Shoreline and wetland projects near lakes and streams need this commission's sign-off, and two lakeside rebuilds now wait on paperwork before they can move forward.
  • With the administrator leaving, the pace of site visits, permits and enforcement on residents' projects may depend on how quickly the position is filled.

Watch next

  • October 4 meeting: continued hearings for 38 Oak Ridge Road, 6 Peninsula Drive and 441 Townsend Harbor Road, and ratification of the 39 Island Road enforcement order.

executive sessiongrantshiringlegalpersonnelplanning and zoningpublic comment

Present: Mary (chair, remote); Bob Pease (member, remote); Richard Tremblay (member, remote); Rich Burch (member, remote); Mike Larouche (member, remote); Chris St Germain (member, remote); Leah (conservation administrator, remote); Ryan Proctor (presenter (Dillis and Roy, for applicants), remote); James (Tetro) (presenter (engineer for 932 Flat Hill Road), remote). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 29:25Continue 38 Oak Ridge Road NOI hearing to October 4 — moved by Bob Pease, as heardpassed unanimously
  2. ▶ 49:28Continue 6 Peninsula Drive NOI hearing to October 4 — moved by Bob Pease, as heardpassed unanimously
  3. ▶ 1:20:04Approve NOI for garage at 932 Flat Hill Road, holding approval paperwork until updated WPA form page is receivedpassed (roll call, all aye heard)
  4. ▶ 1:22:32Continue 441 Townsend Harbor Road amended order hearing to October 4 — moved by Mike, as heardpassed (roll call, ayes heard)
  5. ▶ 1:26:42Issue certificate of compliance for 238 Fire Road 16passed unanimously
  6. ▶ 1:36:54Retroactively approve the mushroom signs at the Lane propertypassed (roll call, ayes heard)
  7. ▶ 1:58:57Spend the stated amount for pollinator habitat plantings from the Haas fundpassed (roll call, ayes heard)
  8. ▶ 2:01:32Approve administrative determination to remove a dead tree at 73 Horizon Island Roadpassed (roll call, ayes heard)
  9. ▶ 2:04:41Approve extension request for 100 Summer Street orderpassed (roll call, ayes heard)
  10. ▶ 2:09:39Advise the 1387/1381 Mass Ave applicant their permit does not expire until December 2024 and to request extension in fall 2024passed (roll call, ayes heard)
  11. ▶ 2:14:29Formally close the town beach erosion enforcementpassed (roll call, ayes heard)
  12. ▶ 2:27:51Require 10 Mass Ave to file an RDApassed (roll call, ayes heard)

And 2 procedural: approve minutes of august 2 (▶ 3:14); adjourn (▶ 2:35:37).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 17 agree, 3 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differs238 Fire Road 16 certificate of compliance

    recording Issue certificate of compliance for 238 Fire Road 16 — passed unanimously

    town’s minutes “to approve the order of conditions for this property.”

    Ours says a certificate of compliance was issued; official words the motion as approving the order of conditions. Check the minutes and recording for what was actually moved.

  2. differs10 Mass Ave erosion control deadline

    recording A member to check 10 Mass Ave next week for erosion controls, which were due by next Wednesday.

    town’s minutes “she gave them a deadline of 9/27/23 to put them in.”

    Deadline is consistent (next Wednesday after 9/20 is 9/27), but ours has a member checking the site and official does not record that. Check who is to inspect.

3 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Fund name for pollinator plantings:Haas fund→Hawes
  • Hollis Road window figure:Hollis Road residence trim and attic windows: 4 800, 14 764→$4,800 and $14,764
  • Engineer name:James (Tetro) (presenter (engineer for 932 Flat Hill Road))→James Tetreault
In one record only: 3 from the recording, 2 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — 6 Peninsula Drive conditions: 6 Peninsula Drive: applicant to add trees to replanting, break out deck and fieldstone in the impervious table, and agreed to a condition timing patio work to the lake drawdown.
  • Recording only — 932 Flat Hill Road approval withheld until WPA page arrives: 932 Flat Hill Road approval will not be issued until the updated WPA form page arrives.
  • Recording only — 315 Lancaster survey status: Reach out to 315 Lancaster owners for a status update on the survey.
  • Town’s minutes only — Shawn Kelly Estate payment, Cowdrey gravel, kiosk items: “bob p. stated the court approved that the estate can send the town the check for the bulk of the estate”
  • Town’s minutes only — Building permit for 39 Island Road wall: “rich b. asked if they need a building permit for the wall and leah will check with the building department.”

Compared 2026-10-09. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:28:08Timber rights fund / Sean Kelly estate

    The court approved the estate sending its bulk payment to the town; it will be tracked in MUNIS and spending needs Select Board approval.

  2. ▶ 1:31:17Gravel for parking areas under trails grant

    Commission support asked to buy gravel for two parking areas, with reimbursement from Mass Trails returning to the commission; procurement to go through the town's procurement official.

  3. ▶ 1:54:39Hollis Road residence trim and attic windows

    Painter's approved quote may run a little over for the attic windows; Haas fund expected to cover it.

    as heard:4 80014 764

  4. ▶ 1:55:44Pollinator habitat fall plant order

    Order to Bluestem Natives approved, paid from the Haas fund, total includes tax and shipping.

    as heard:221.43221 dollars and 43 cents

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 27:2038 Oak Ridge Road applicant to provide replanting schedule, before/after grades and fill estimate, wider plan of neighbor's land, neighbor signature page, updated NOI addresses, and wattle plus silt fence.
  • ▶ 45:146 Peninsula Drive: applicant to add trees to replanting, break out deck and fieldstone in the impervious table, and agreed to a condition timing patio work to the lake drawdown.
  • ▶ 1:14:42932 Flat Hill Road approval will not be issued until the updated WPA form page arrives.
  • ▶ 1:23:16Administrator to ask staff to contact Nick Eaton so he is on the Oct 4 agenda.
  • ▶ 1:41:21Enforcement order for 39 Island Road to be issued this week and ratified at the October meeting; only stabilization work allowed meanwhile.
  • ▶ 1:52:08Reach out to 315 Lancaster owners for a status update on the survey.
  • ▶ 2:11:44Northfield Road Lot A certificate of compliance deferred until boulder boundary markers are placed; applicant to return when done, no formal vote.
  • ▶ 2:20:27A member to check 10 Mass Ave next week for erosion controls, which were due by next Wednesday.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 48:04Applicant and long-time resident said the water has never come near the flood line at 6 Peninsula Drive. — Denny sharpen's, as heard
  2. ▶ 48:47Neighbor clarified the 'sand beach' at 6 Peninsula Drive is a wood-bordered sandbox set back from the bank. — Matt sherpentier, as heard

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Call to order, roll call, minutesvoted · 4:59 long
  2. ▶ 4:59Public comment period and notes for administratorinformational · 2:27 long · personnel
  3. ▶ 7:26Hearing: 38 Oak Ridge Road NOIcontinued to Oct 4 · 24:02 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 31:28Hearing: 6 Peninsula Drive NOIcontinued to Oct 4 · 18:43 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 50:11Continued hearing: 932 Flat Hill Road garageapproved with condition · 31:41 long · planning and zoning, legal
  6. ▶ 1:21:52441 Townsend Harbor Road amended ordercontinued · 1:45 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 1:23:37Certificate of compliance 238 Fire Road 16voted · 4:09 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:27:46Timber rights fund, trails grant, gravelinformational · 6:03 long · grants, budget
  9. ▶ 1:33:49208 Northfield appeal outcome and mushroom signsvoted · 4:05 long · legal
  10. ▶ 1:37:54Administrator updates and 39 Island Road enforcementorder forthcoming · 12:48 long · personnel, legal
  11. ▶ 1:50:42Encroachment issues, 315 Lancaster, Maltes Roadfollow-up · 2:51 long · legal
  12. ▶ 1:53:33Hollis Road residence and pollinator plant purchasevoted · 7:15 long · budget, facilities
  13. ▶ 2:00:48Administrative determinations and extensionsvoted · 12:40 long · planning and zoning
  14. ▶ 2:13:28Enforcements: town beach, 143 Island Road, 10 Mass Avevoted · 14:46 long · legal
  15. ▶ 2:28:14Open space and land use updatesinformational · 2:47 long · grants
  16. ▶ 2:31:01Administrator vacancy and adjournmentvoted to adjourn · 5:19 long · hiring, personnel

What the captions could not carry

  • Roll call vote counts mostly captured as individual ayes; some voters' responses garbled or missing.
  • Meeting ID digits and exact figures for the plant order and Hollis Road costs are unreliable in captions.
  • Who seconded some motions is unclear.

These are ours, and they are not the record

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