What was said

Conservation Commission, October 4, 2023

the recording · 2:42 long, about 18,464 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 2:02:00The Commission approved a notice of intent for a deck relocation at 205 Sunset Lane with four conditions, on a 4-1 vote with one member opposed.
  2. ▶ 51:16Hearings at 38 Oak Ridge Rd and 6 Peninsula Dr were continued to October 18 so applicants can revise tree replacement and landscaping plans.
  3. ▶ 14:05Negative determinations passed 4-0 for utility connections at 274 Prospect St and a rolling dock at 19 Cliffview Terrace.
  4. ▶ 2:27:35A certificate of compliance for 4 Townsend Harbor Rd was approved 5-0, contingent on added certifying language in the engineer's letter.
  5. ▶ 2:13:00The chair reported staffing and support losses; the Town is seeking temporary clerical help and part-time conservation administrator hours from adjacent towns.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Residents with wetlands or tree-removal projects near water may face slower reviews, since commissioners tied a continuance to the thin office staff and the Town is seeking temporary help and part-time administrator hours from neighboring towns.
  • Homeowners waiting on a certificate of compliance, as the applicant at 4 Townsend Harbor Rd was, depend on the same office capacity to close out a project.

Watch next

  • October 18, 2023: continued hearings for 38 Oak Ridge Rd, 6 Peninsula Dr and 441 Townsend Harbor Rd return to the Commission.

personnelplanning and zoningpolicypublic commentstaffing

Present: Chair (unnamed in captions) (chair); Richard Trimbley / Rich Tremblay (member); Jeff Viviano (member); Mike larouche (member); Richard Birch / Rich Burch (member); Bob peas (member (expected late; not heard to join)); Chris St Germain (member (not seen on call)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 14:05Approve RDA at 274 Prospect St with negative determination and standard order of conditions — moved by Jeff Viviano (as heard), as heardpassed 4-0 (roll call)
  2. ▶ 19:40Negative determination with standard order of conditions for 4x16 rolling dock at 19 Cliffview Terracepassed 4-0 (roll call)
  3. ▶ 31:30Approve NOI at 899 Flat Hill Rd (DEP file 208 1307) with silt fence added to straw wattles — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed 4-0 (roll call)
  4. ▶ 51:16Continue 38 Oak Ridge Road hearing to October 18passed 5-0 (roll call)
  5. ▶ 1:25:38Continue 6 Peninsula Drive hearing to 10/18 — moved by Rich Burch, as heardpassed 5-0 (roll call)
  6. ▶ 1:31:28Continue 441 Townsend Harbor Road hearing to the 18th (applicant absent)passed 5-0 (roll call)
  7. ▶ 2:02:00Approve NOI at 205 Sunset Lane with four stated conditions — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed 4-1 (Rich Burch no)
  8. ▶ 2:27:35Approve certificate of compliance for 4 Townsend Harbor Rd contingent on added certifying language in engineer's letterpassed 5-0 (roll call)

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 2:41:38).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 13 agree, 0 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsUnderlining addresses: agendas or minutes▶ 2:08:21

    recording Hearing addresses to be underlined on agendas; Drive folders to be labeled by parcel address; Zoom meeting ID typo on the agenda to be corrected.

    town’s minutes “mary will work with ashleigh to underline the addresses to make it easier to scan minutes and historical data.”

    Ours says addresses underlined on agendas, official says in minutes; check the recording at this point for which document was meant.

  2. differsChris St Germain as a member

    recording Chris St Germain (member (not seen on call))

    town’s minutes “roll call: mary w., rich t., jeff v ., mike l., and rich b.”

    Official roll call lists no Chris St Germain; check whether he is a member or a misheard name.

In one record only: 1 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Temporary clerical help for minutes: Town is seeking temporary clerical help for minutes and reaching out to adjacent towns for part-time conservation administrator hours. ▶ 2:13:00
  • Town’s minutes only — Handrails at 205 Sunset Lane deck: “the commission discussed and agreed that the handrails are a good idea.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Jack to email Mary on certified language: “mary asked jack to email her when he provides the certified language.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Applicants, representatives and public attendees: “jack maloney (dillis & roy) and thomas crocker were present.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public comment on pileated woodpecker holes: “tom charpentier (abutter) noted that one of the trees they are taking down has some large holes from a pileated woodpecker, indicating some insect activity in the tree.”

Compared 2026-10-09. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:32:09Hollis Road residence repairs (town-owned property)

    Repair costs have run over the original painting quote; chimney flashing is additional, and what happens if the ceiling is exceeded was unknown.

    as heard:thirty three hundred dollars4 800eight thousand one hundredten thousand dollar

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 2:07:39Chair will use her discretion to make enforcements and certificates of compliance the first order of business in the business section; no objection.
  • ▶ 2:08:21Hearing addresses to be underlined on agendas; Drive folders to be labeled by parcel address; Zoom meeting ID typo on the agenda to be corrected.
  • ▶ 1:23:34Commissioners agreed the 6 Peninsula Dr applicant should add notes and return before approval, given office staffing.
  • ▶ 2:13:00Town is seeking temporary clerical help for minutes and reaching out to adjacent towns for part-time conservation administrator hours.
  • ▶ 50:5638 Oak Ridge Rd applicant to revise landscaping plan with more hardwoods and replacement within the 30 ft zone.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 1:24:55Abutter clarified that one tree proposed for removal on his property has significant woodpecker damage and insect activity; otherwise trees are healthy. — Tom, as heard, abutting property owner
  2. ▶ 2:17:57Applicant's engineer and a realtor said they were waiting for the certificate of compliance item at 4 Townsend Harbor Road. — a speaker, realtor

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:01Call to order, open meeting law, roll call, announcementsprocedural; quorum established · 3:09 long
  2. ▶ 3:11RDA 274 Prospect St: utility connections for three residential lotsnegative determination voted · 11:49 long · planning and zoning, housing
  3. ▶ 15:01RDA 19 Cliffview Terrace: rolling docknegative determination voted · 7:09 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 22:11NOI 899 Flat Hill Rd: remove and rebuild homeapproved with silt fence · 11:04 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 33:16NOI 38 Oak Ridge Rd: teardown/rebuild, tree mitigationcontinued to Oct 18 · 18:44 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 52:01NOI 6 Peninsula Dr: teardown/rebuild, patio, tree replacementcontinued to Oct 18 · 34:19 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 1:26:21Audio trouble; 441 Townsend Harbor Rd amended order continuedcontinued to Oct 18 · 5:49 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:32:11NOI 205 Sunset Lane: relocation of deck/lower landingapproved with four conditions, one dissent · 31:29 long · planning and zoning, legal
  9. ▶ 2:03:41Update on 39 Island Road enforcement; NOI filedinformational · 2:19 long · legal
  10. ▶ 2:06:01Agenda format and administrative changesagreed informally · 5:14 long · policy
  11. ▶ 2:11:16Staffing and support losses; application guidelinesinformational · 6:14 long · staffing, personnel
  12. ▶ 2:17:31Certificates of compliance: 4 Townsend Harbor Rd; Elmwood Rd not addressedvoted for 4 Townsend Harbor · 13:29 long · planning and zoning
  13. ▶ 2:31:01Old business: Hollis Road repairs, jumping wormsinformational · 8:19 long · facilities, town departments
  14. ▶ 2:39:21Enforcement updates, grants, adjournmentadjourned · 2:59 long · legal, grants

What the captions could not carry

  • Chair's name not given in captions
  • Who moved the Prospect St and Cliffview Terrace motions is partly garbled
  • Condition numbering at 205 Sunset Lane skipped a number; the exact fourth condition is unclear
  • Timber/trust fund update not given
  • Seconder for adjournment garbled

These are ours, and they are not the record

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