What was said

Conservation Commission, October 18, 2023

the recording · 2:20 long, about 17,236 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 38:13The Commission continued the 390 Howard Street wetland delineation to November 1 after hearing of erosion, missing flags and possible earth removal without a permit.
  2. ▶ 1:04:51The Commission continued the 2011 Fire Road 16 septic filing to November 1; the applicant must show the true wetland edge, buffers and larger trees.
  3. ▶ 1:42:48The Commission approved the 386 Sunset Lane replacement septic with an order of conditions adding silt fence to the straw waddle; Trembley recused.
  4. ▶ 1:57:20The Commission approved the Nashua River Watershed planting with a negative determination, plus notices of intent for 38 Oakridge Road and 6 Peninsula Drive.
  5. ▶ 2:15:56The Commission issued a positive determination on an amended order at 441 Townson Harbor Road; captions end before the Northfield Road earth removal review is resolved.

Why it matters — our reading

  • A downstream resident reported silt filling his pond three times in a year, so the Howard Street outcome bears on brook and pond water quality that abutters and residents on the Pearl Hill Brook watershed depend on.
  • Septic replacements and work near wetlands go through this board, so conditions such as silt fencing and buffer mapping set what neighbors and the town can expect from projects near water.

Watch next

  • November 1 continued hearings: 390 Howard Street, 2011 Fire Road 16 and 143 Island Road.
  • The commission's letter to the building official on possible earth removal at 390 Howard Street, and the outcome of the 780 Northfield Road earth removal review.

executive sessionlegalplanning and zoningpublic comment

Present: Mary (chair); Bob PE (Bob Peas) (member); Rich Trembley (member); Rich Burch (member); Jeff vivano (member); Mike larouche (member); Chris St Germain (member); Ashley (administrative staff). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 38:13Continue the 390 Howard Street abbreviated notice of resource area delineation to November 1. — moved by Bob, as heardpassed (roll call, all ayes heard)
  2. ▶ 1:04:51Continue the 2011 Fire Road 16 notice of intent to November 1. — moved by Rich Burch, as heardpassed (roll call, all ayes heard)
  3. ▶ 1:42:48Approve the 386 Sunset Lane notice of intent with an order of conditions adding silt fence to the straw waddle. — moved by Bob Peas, as heardpassed (roll call; Trembley recused)
  4. ▶ 1:45:37Continue the 143 Island Road request for determination to November 1 because no representative attended.passed (roll call, all ayes heard)
  5. ▶ 1:57:20Approve the Nashua River Watershed Association request for determination with a negative determination.passed (roll call, all ayes heard)
  6. ▶ 2:06:48Approve the notice of intent for 38 Oakridge Road. — moved by Mike larouche, as heardpassed (roll call, all ayes heard)
  7. ▶ 2:12:25Approve the notice of intent for 6 Peninsula Drive. — moved by Jeff vivano, as heardpassed (roll call, all ayes heard)
  8. ▶ 2:15:56Issue a positive determination on the amended order of conditions at 441 Townson Harbor Road. — moved by Rich Burch, as heardpassed (roll call, all ayes heard)

And 1 procedural: take up the may 17 minutes at the next meeting, since they were not yet in the shared drive. (▶ 4:48).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 10 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 1 substantive difference. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsWho Bob writes to about 390 Howard Street earth removal▶ 38:58

    recording Bob will write to the building official on the commission's behalf about possible earth removal without a permit at 390 Howard Street.

    town’s minutes “rich b. suggested contacting the building inspector over concerns about possible earth removal done without a permit and bob will contact him.”

    Both name the building official/inspector; ours says write and the official says contact. Minor, but check the recording on whether it was a letter.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Fire Road 16 address and continuation:Continue the 2011 Fire Road 16 notice of intent to November 1.→201 Fire Road #16▶ 1:04:51
  • 38 Oak Ridge Road notice of intent:Approve the notice of intent for 38 Oakridge Road. — passed (roll call, all ayes heard)→38 Oak Ridge Road▶ 2:06:48
  • 441 Townsend Harbor Road positive determination:Issue a positive determination on the amended order of conditions at 441 Townson Harbor Road. — passed (roll call, all ayes heard)→Townsend Harbor Road▶ 2:15:56
  • Attendee names:Mary (chair); Bob PE (Bob Peas); Rich Trembley; Rich Burch; Jeff vivano; Mike larouche; Chris St Germain→Bob Pease; Richard Tremblay; Richard Bursch; Jeffrey Viviano; Michael Larouche; Chris St. Germain; Mary Wilson
In one record only: 1 from the recording, 7 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Staff inspect erosion toward Pearl Hill Brook before next hearing: Staff will inspect the erosion moving downhill toward Pearl Hill Brook and the downstream pond before the next hearing, with commissioners attending where possible. ▶ 39:39
  • Town’s minutes only — Vote directing Bob P. to write letter to Select Board on 780 Northfield Rd earth removal permit: “motion: bob p., second: rich t for bob p. to write a letter to the select board stating there are no activities within our jurisdiction”
  • Town’s minutes only — Vote approving additional Robb Hill trails and Bob Pease going to Shirley: “motion: mary w., second: chris s. to approve the additional trails to be created on lunenburg property”
  • Town’s minutes only — Vote approving 3-year extension of Order of Conditions at 351 Massachusetts Avenue: “motion: bob p., second: chris s. to approve the extension of the order of conditions at 351 mass. ave. for 3 additional years.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Shawn Kelly Estate check: “bob reported they received a check dated 9/20 for $869,830.41 from the shawn kelly estate”
  • Town’s minutes only — Hollis Road Residence maintenance payment: “mike l. confirmed the $3,300 covered the cedar siding, front overhang, and the chimney flashing.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Other official decisions: Drive access, 390 Howard off agendas, 26 Mulpus Road, kiosk sponsorship, Munis access email, 10 Mass Ave letter: “mary will take this off future agendas and forward the photos.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Non-commissioner attendees: “charlotte steeves stated she is planning to start some of the site walks on 10/20”

Compared 2026-10-09. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

Nothing touching money was heard beyond the transfers.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 38:58Bob will write to the building official on the commission's behalf about possible earth removal without a permit at 390 Howard Street.
  • ▶ 39:39Staff will inspect the erosion moving downhill toward Pearl Hill Brook and the downstream pond before the next hearing, with commissioners attending where possible.
  • ▶ 40:23Bob will work with the planning board consultant on a list of third-party wetland reviewers for 390 Howard Street.
  • ▶ 1:04:08The applicant at 2011 Fire Road 16 should locate trees of four to six inches and larger, show the true wetland edge and 50/100 foot buffers, and add silt fence with staked waddles.
  • ▶ 1:17:11Silt fence will be added to the straw waddles at 386 Sunset Lane.
  • ▶ 1:58:23The Nashua River Watershed Association may start planting now without waiting for the written letter, since the project is likely exempt.
  • ▶ 4:48The May 17 minutes will be taken up at the next meeting.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 28:56Resident living downstream of 390 Howard Street reported silt from the brook has filled his pond, killing fish, for the third time in a year. He offered the commission access to his property and a neighbor's. — Eric L, as heard, resident
  2. ▶ 1:21:31Abutter at Sunset Lane asked about wall elevations, grade, runoff and a large oak near the excavation at 386 Sunset Lane. He said he supports the revised plan. — Carl luck, as heard, abutter

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Opening, roll call, meeting ID correction, and minutes deferredminutes deferred to next meeting · 5:08 long
  2. ▶ 5:08390 Howard Street abbreviated notice of resource area delineation: erosion, missing flags, possible earth removalcontinued to November 1 · 35:59 long · planning and zoning, public comment, legal
  3. ▶ 41:072011 Fire Road 16 septic notice of intent: wetland edge and contour questionscontinued to November 1 · 24:26 long · planning and zoning, facilities
  4. ▶ 1:05:33386 Sunset Lane replacement septic notice of intent (Trembley)approved with order of conditions · 38:16 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  5. ▶ 1:43:49143 Island Road request for determination, no representative presentcontinued to November 1 · 2:34 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 1:46:23Nashua River Watershed Association riparian planting request for determinationapproved, negative determination · 13:02 long · planning and zoning, grants
  7. ▶ 1:59:25274 Prospect Street (dropped as already approved) and 38 Oakridge Road notice of intentOakridge approved · 9:33 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 2:08:586 Peninsula Drive notice of intentapproved · 4:29 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 2:13:27441 Townson Harbor Road amended order of conditionspositive determination · 3:11 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 2:16:38Earth removal permit review at 780 Northfield Road (Christmas tree farm land leveling)no resolution in captions · 3:28 long · planning and zoning, economic development

What the captions could not carry

  • Whether the May 17 minutes vote happened; they were deferred instead.
  • Captions end mid-presentation on the 780 Northfield Road earth removal permit; no outcome is available.
  • Exact roll-call tallies are inferred from the ayes heard; some voters were garbled.
  • The caption says 'seven' as a 1500 foot buffer, which is probably the 100 foot buffer.
  • Chair's name appears only as 'Mary'; Haley Ward and the other representatives' names are mangled.

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