What was said

Conservation Commission, October 18, 2023

the recording · 1:08 long, about 7,338 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 27:23The Conservation Commission voted to extend the order of conditions at 351 Mass Ave for three additional years.
  2. ▶ 13:20The commission voted to create new trails on town conservation land and authorized a member to speak with Shirley about connecting trails.
  3. ▶ 4:30The commission voted to send the select board a letter saying the earth removal permit involves no activity within its jurisdiction and it has no negative comments.
  4. ▶ 57:02The office still lacks MUNIS access, which leaves a carpeting vendor unpaid and a bequest from an estate unspendable until a fund number is set up.
  5. ▶ 45:30Enforcement items were sorted: 390 Howard Street silt runoff went to other town departments, and a 176 Elmwood Road compliance certificate was deferred.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The office cannot pay vendors or spend a bequest left to conservation without MUNIS access and a fund number, which touches how quickly town-held conservation money can be used.
  • Trail and permit decisions shape how conservation land is used, and pending enforcement items, such as silt runoff, are being handed to other town departments rather than resolved by the commission.

Watch next

  • Whether MUNIS access is restored to the office's accounts and whether the select board must approve spending the estate bequest (discussed around t=1028 and t=3609).
  • The commission's requested master checklist of pending enforcement actions and who handles each (t=2856).

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Present: Madam chair (Mary) (chair); Mike larouche (member); Jeff vivano (member); Rich Trembley (member); Chris St Germaine (member); Bob peas (member); Rich Burch (member); Charlotte (interim administrator); Brianna (interim administrator (mentioned)); Ashley (office staff (mentioned)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 4:30Bob to write a letter to the select board saying the earth removal permit involves no activity within the commission's jurisdiction and the commission has no negative comments — moved by Bob, as heardpassed
  2. ▶ 13:20Approve creation of new trails on Lunenburg conservation property and authorize Bob to speak with Shirley about connections on Shirley land — moved by Bob, as heardpassed
  3. ▶ 27:23Approve extension of the order of conditions at 351 Mass Ave for three additional yearspassed

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 1:07:29).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 6 agree, 2 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 2 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsGoogle Drive access

    recording Charlotte and Brianna to be given editor access to the shared Google Drive; Mary and Chris to be added.

    town’s minutes “bob asked rich b. to give charlotte access to the drive.”

    Official says Charlotte, plus editing for Mary, with commissioners viewing only; ours says Charlotte and Brianna editors and Chris added. Check the recording for who gets which access.

  2. differsAttendees

    recording Madam chair (Mary), Mike larouche, Jeff vivano, Rich Trembley, Chris St Germaine, Bob peas, Rich Burch; Charlotte, Brianna, Ashley mentioned

    town’s minutes “roll call: bob p., rich t., rich b., jeff v ., mike l., chris s., and mary w.”

    Seven commissioners match (names misheard: Pease, Tremblay, Bursch). Official also lists applicants, consultants and public (Matt Marro, Chris MacKenzie, Carl Luck, Eric Lahti, etc.); Brianna and Ashley are mentioned only in ours/official as non-attending.

2 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Sean Kelly estate bequest amount:Sean Kelly estate bequest: 80 8698, $341, 800 and 30→$869,830.41 (Shawn Kelly)▶ 17:08
  • Name of road removed from encroachment list:26 Mulus Road to be removed from the encroachment list after the owners surveyed, staked and removed fencing and tree houses.→26 Mulpus Road▶ 23:29
In one record only: 3 from the recording, 7 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Sand volume in earth removal permit: 5,000 cubic yards: Sand volume in earth removal permit: 5,000 cubic yards ▶ 2:47
  • Recording only — Master checklist of pending enforcement actions: Commission wants a master checklist of pending enforcement actions and who handles each. ▶ 47:36
  • Recording only — Certificate of compliance for 176 Elmwood Road deferred: Certificate of compliance for 176 Elmwood Road deferred until an administrator can review the file and visit the site. ▶ 29:34
  • Town’s minutes only — Continuations to November 1st (390 Howard St, 201 Fire Road, 143 Island Road): “motion: bob p., second: rich b. to continue to the november 1st meeting.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Approval of 386 Sunset Lane Notice of Intent with silt fence added to wattles: “motion: bob p., second: jeff v . to approve with an order of conditions that a silt fence is added to the straw wattles.”
  • Town’s minutes only — RDA approval, 69 Brookview Terrace and 233 Island Road, negative determination: “motion: mike l., second: chris s. to approve the rda with negative determination.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Notice of Intent approval, 38 Oak Ridge Road: “motion: mike l., second: chris s. to approve the notice of intent.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Notice of Intent approval, 6 Peninsula Drive: “motion: jeff v., second: mike l. to approve the notice of intent.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Positive determination, Amended Order of Conditions at 441 Townsend Harbor Road: “motion: rich b., second: bob p. for a positive determination.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Other decisions: kiosk sponsorship, 201 Fire Road requests, third-party reviewers, tabled May minutes: “mary confirmed the commission will sponsor materials for the kiosk the snow riders are building”

Compared 2026-10-09. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 17:08Sean Kelly estate bequest

    The check from the estate was received, larger than initially expected. A fund number and MUNIS access are still needed before it can be spent, and the town attorney said select board approval may be needed to spend it.

    as heard:80 8698$341800 and 30

  2. ▶ 54:32Hollis Road residence repairs

    An additional cost for cedar siding replacement was confirmed to include chimney flashing repair. The project is near its end.

    as heard:$3,300

  3. ▶ 57:02Unpaid carpeting vendor

    A vendor approved to replace carpeting at the house remains unpaid because a purchase order has not been submitted. The office lacks MUNIS access.

  4. ▶ 20:20MACC membership and classes

    The commission was not enrolled as members this year, so classes would be taken as non-members and reimbursed by the town.

  5. ▶ 51:47Kiosk materials for snow riders

    The commission is sponsoring materials for a kiosk; purchase order coverage was questioned and delivery is delayed until November.

  6. ▶ 49:03Conservation award

    An award has been formalized with the federal authority; paperwork remains to be completed.

  7. ▶ 2:47Sand volume in earth removal permit

    About 5,000 cubic yards of sand is a byproduct of leveling a field for planting.

    as heard:5,000 cubic yards

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 23:2926 Mulus Road to be removed from the encroachment list after the owners surveyed, staked and removed fencing and tree houses.
  • ▶ 29:34Certificate of compliance for 176 Elmwood Road deferred until an administrator can review the file and visit the site.
  • ▶ 45:30390 Howard Street silt runoff to be referred to the building inspector, DPW and Stormwater Commission and removed from the agenda.
  • ▶ 1:00:09Mike to email Karen about restoring the office's MUNIS access to the timber rights and Hollis Road accounts.
  • ▶ 35:16Charlotte and Brianna to be given editor access to the shared Google Drive; Mary and Chris to be added.
  • ▶ 47:36Commission wants a master checklist of pending enforcement actions and who handles each.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 3:49Chair asked for public comment on the earth removal permit; no hands from the public were seen.
  2. ▶ 13:00Chair noted no members of the public on the Holden Wood trails item.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Earth removal permit review (sand from field leveling) and letter to select boardvoted · 5:40 long · planning and zoning, legal
  2. ▶ 5:40Holden Wood conservation land trails and Shirley connectionsvoted · 8:40 long · recreation, planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 14:20Application instructions and guidelines for filingsinformational · 2:28 long · policy
  4. ▶ 16:48Sean Kelly estate funds, MUNIS access, MACC membershipinformational · 5:38 long · personnel, budget
  5. ▶ 22:26Encroachment issuesdecided · 1:44 long · legal
  6. ▶ 24:10Extension request for 351 Mass Ave order of conditionsvoted · 4:50 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 29:00176 Elmwood Road certificate of compliance and shared drive accessdeferred · 10:25 long · planning and zoning, technology
  8. ▶ 39:25Administrator support and workflowno resolution · 2:51 long · staffing, personnel
  9. ▶ 42:16Enforcement: 390 Howard St, 205 Sunset, 143 Island Rd, othersreferred · 6:47 long · legal, public safety
  10. ▶ 49:03Open space, awards, snow riders trail work, bridge repairsinformational · 5:29 long · recreation, grants
  11. ▶ 54:32Hollis Road residence repairs, unpaid vendor, MUNIS problems, resident work logsinformational · 11:14 long · facilities, personnel, budget
  12. ▶ 1:05:46Committee reports and other commentsinformational · 1:43 long · recreation
  13. ▶ 1:07:29Adjournmentvoted · 0:21 long

What the captions could not carry

  • The adjournment roll call was not fully captured; no count or result is in the captions.
  • The 'Sean Kelly' check amount is garbled in the captions.
  • The commission's name and chair were not stated explicitly in the captions; chair is inferred from how she is addressed.
  • The first 20 seconds begin mid-discussion.

These are ours, and they are not the record

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