What was said

Conservation Commission, November 1, 2023

the recording · 2:41 long, about 18,562 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 7:58New public hearings were struck from the agenda because legal ads were not placed, and will be heard November 15.
  2. ▶ 9:20The commission voted to continue the hearings for 390 Howard Street, 2011 Fire Road 16 and 143 Island Road to November 15.
  3. ▶ 26:45The commission accepted the administrator's recommendation for a tree removal at 833 Flat Hill Road, adding a limbing condition and a saplings photo due by May 1.
  4. ▶ 39:36The commission tabled the 70 Horizon Island Road determination to November 15 and asked for a site map of planting locations.
  5. ▶ 1:12:22A tree cut at 118 Mass Ave was allowed with stump grinding, erosion controls, loam and seed, and two saplings.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Anyone with a project before the Conservation Commission, such as the continued hearings, should expect it to wait until at least November 15, because the hearings were pushed back by a missed legal-ad step.
  • The meeting also described staffing, MUNIS access, unpaid bills and a lapsed MACC membership, which affect how quickly the commission can process permits and pay for routine work.
  • The 118 Mass Ave case shows that cutting a hazardous tree near a stream can require commission approval, and a speaker said the rules were not on the town website.

Watch next

  • The November 15 meeting, when the struck and continued hearings and the tabled 70 Horizon Island Road determination are due.
  • The November 20 site visit with North County Land Trust, and the chair's emails to the tax collector (brochure deadline and cost) and the town manager (SharePoint migration).

contracts and unionshiringpersonnelplanning and zoningpublic commentrecreationstaffingtechnologytown departments

Present: Mary (chair); Bob Peas (member (vice chair)); Richard Trembley (member); Richard Burch (member); Mike larouche (member); Chris St Germain (member); Charlotte (interim administrator, taking decision notes, remote). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 9:20Continue the 390 Howard Street hearing to November 15passed by roll call
  2. ▶ 11:50Continue the 2011 Fire Road 16 hearing to November 15passed unanimously
  3. ▶ 15:03Continue the 143 Island Road hearing to November 15passed unanimously
  4. ▶ 26:45Accept administrator's recommendation for 833 Flat Hill Road tree removal, with added limbing and saplings photo by May 1passed by roll call
  5. ▶ 39:36Table the 70 Horizon Island Road administrative determination to November 15 and ask for a site map of planting locationspassed by roll call
  6. ▶ 1:12:22Allow tree cut at 118 Mass Ave with stumps ground, erosion controls, loam and seed, and two saplingspassed by roll call

And 2 procedural: approve the may 17, 2023 minutes (▶ 6:14); adjourn at 9:42 pm (▶ 2:40:40).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 11 agree, 2 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differs833 Flat Hill Road saplings photo deadline▶ 26:45

    recording Accept administrator's recommendation for 833 Flat Hill Road tree removal, with added limbing and saplings photo by May 1 — passed by roll call

    town’s minutes “to accept the administrator's recommendations, with added note to allow limbing in the additional area above the cabin, with stipulation that by april 1, 2024, they submit pictures”

    The official quote says April 1, 2024; the official summary says it was amended to May 1. Check the recording for the final deadline.

  2. differs441 Townsend Harbor Rd: field change vs amended order▶ 2:38:56

    recording Nick Eaton to submit a field change request by email; commission to act at a later meeting.

    town’s minutes “charlotte told him to fill out the paperwork for the amended order and write a letter on what will be changed”

    Official has Charlotte directing an amended Order of Conditions, with Rich B. suggesting a field change. Check the recording for which was decided.

  3. differsAttendees

    recording Mary; Bob Peas; Richard Trembley; Richard Burch; Mike larouche; Chris St Germain; Charlotte (interim administrator)

    town’s minutes “roll call: mary w, bob p, rich t, rich b, mike l and chris s. also present - charlotte (admin. agent)”

    Same six members and Charlotte. Names are caption spellings of Pease, Tremblay, Bursch, Larouche. Official also lists Jeffrey Viviano absent; ours does not.

2 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Fire Road #16 address:Continue the 2011 Fire Road 16 hearing to November 15 — passed unanimously→201 Fire Road #16▶ 11:50
  • Mass Ave enforcement tree cut address:Allow tree cut at 118 Mass Ave with stumps ground, erosion controls, loam and seed, and two saplings — passed by roll call→1118 Massachusetts Avenue▶ 1:12:22
In one record only: 3 from the recording, 1 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Separate downstream site visit, 390 Howard Street: Separate downstream site visit to be arranged for 390 Howard Street. ▶ 52:10
  • Recording only — MACC membership and handbook $25: MACC membership and handbook: $25 a year per person ▶ 2:07:09
  • Recording only — Herbicide certification cost: Herbicide certification: a couple of hundred bucks ▶ 2:21:58
  • Town’s minutes only — Decisions missing from ours: “bob p. said he would take care of that.”

Compared 2026-10-09. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:19:47Public awareness brochure mailing

    Past brochure went in the tax bills and was paid from an office or administrative account. Chair will ask the tax collector for deadline and cost.

  2. ▶ 2:02:12Sean Kelly estate money

    Money has been deposited but it is unclear whether a fund was set up or how it can be spent.

  3. ▶ 2:02:32MUNIS access and unpaid bills

    Staff lack MUNIS access, delaying purchase orders; the carpet invoice is still unpaid.

  4. ▶ 2:07:09MACC membership and handbook

    Membership lapsed and cannot be paid; handbook access is a separate fee.

    as heard:$25 a year per person

  5. ▶ 2:21:58Herbicide certification

    Certification for knotweed treatment seems to cost a few hundred dollars plus seminars.

    as heard:a couple of hundred bucks

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 7:58New public hearings struck from the agenda due to missing legal ads; to be heard November 15.
  • ▶ 14:39Staff to notify the 143 Island Road applicant of the November 15 hearing.
  • ▶ 46:09780 Northfield Road enforcement tabled to next meeting; staff to invite Jim Latanzi.
  • ▶ 52:10Separate downstream site visit to be arranged for 390 Howard Street.
  • ▶ 1:14:52Staff to send notice to 10 Mass Ave requiring an RDA.
  • ▶ 1:28:35Chair to ask the tax collector about brochure deadlines and cost; work scheduled for when a full-time administrator is hired.
  • ▶ 1:32:50Mike larouche to accompany North County Land Trust on the Nov 20 site visit.
  • ▶ 1:52:28Chair to email the town manager seeking clarification on the SharePoint migration.
  • ▶ 1:59:00Commission will keep meeting by Zoom and released the in-person Town Hall reservation.
  • ▶ 2:38:56Nick Eaton to submit a field change request by email; commission to act at a later meeting.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 2:35:20Wants to pave part of his driveway over the septic tanks before winter; advised to file a field change request by email. — Nick Eaton, as heard, resident, 441 Townson Harbor Road
  2. ▶ 53:12Steve Wright objected to being stopped from cutting a hazardous tree at 118 Mass Ave and said the rules were not on the town website. — a speaker, property owner

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:03Opening, roll call, minutesvoted · 7:37 long
  2. ▶ 7:37Continued hearings: 390 Howard, 2011 Fire Road 16, 143 Island Roadvoted, continued · 9:03 long · planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 16:48Administrative determinations: 833 Flat Hill Road and 70 Horizon Island Roadone approved, one tabled · 23:52 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 40:40Enforcement: Northfield Road, Howard Street, 118 Mass Ave, 10 Mass Avevoted on 118 Mass Ave; others referred · 37:20 long · planning and zoning, legal
  5. ▶ 1:18:00Public awareness campaign and brochureinformational · 12:20 long · town departments
  6. ▶ 1:30:20Staff coordination, task tracker, document access and online permittingno resolution · 19:00 long · staffing, technology
  7. ▶ 1:49:16Google Drive to SharePoint, Zoom vs in-person meetingsfollow-up by chair · 12:24 long · technology
  8. ▶ 2:01:40Old business: funds, MUNIS, MACC, encroachments, service projects, invasivesinformational · 23:20 long · budget
  9. ▶ 2:24:28Hollis Road, committee reports, utility work and timber lettersinformational · 10:32 long
  10. ▶ 2:35:00Public comment: Nick Eaton driveway pavingfield change advised · 5:40 long · public comment
  11. ▶ 2:40:40Adjournmentvoted · 0:50 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Minutes dates (May 17 vs May 7) are inconsistently captioned.
  • Some roll call responses were garbled so individual votes on a few motions are not fully confirmed.
  • Who moved several motions is unclear.

These are ours, and they are not the record

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