What was said

Conservation Commission, December 6, 2023

the recording · 2:56 long, about 18,837 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 17:00The Conservation Commission approved a deck permit, two septic and patio permits and a field change, and spent town funds on title searches.
  2. ▶ 2:31:07The Commission voted to use Kelly estate funds for title searches on three tax-title properties.
  3. ▶ 1:22:44At 711 Mass Ave the cease-and-desist stays until the applicant fixes the silt fence, locates missing wetland flags and provides a restoration plan.
  4. ▶ 22:38Seven hearings, including 390 Howard Street and three Kilburn Street lots, were continued to the 12/20 meeting.
  5. ▶ 1:54:25On the Hollis Road lease, a member is to consult town counsel and report back with options; heating service was authorized if the facilities director declines.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The commission's permits decide what can be built near wetlands in Lunenburg, and the stop-work order at 711 Mass Ave shows the conditions it will hold a project to.
  • The Hollis Road house is town-owned property whose lease is month-to-month at a below-market rent as heard, so counsel's advice may change what that property earns for its revolving fund.

Watch next

  • The 12/20 Conservation Commission meeting, where the continued hearings, the town beach appointment hearing and the 780 Northfield Road owner are on the agenda.
  • Town counsel's options on the Hollis Road lease, due back to the commission.

contracts and unionsfacilitiesgrantslegalpersonnelplanning and zoningpolicypublic comment

Present: Mary (chair); Bob Peas (member); Jeff Vivano (member); Mike Larouche (member); Chris St Germain (member); Sophie Doro (conservation administrator); Ryan Proctor (Dillon Roy) (presenter). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 17:00Negative determination with standard conditions for deck RDA at 64 Spring Street Extensionpassed (unanimous)
  2. ▶ 22:38Continue 390 Howard Street ANRAD to 12/20passed (roll call, all aye)
  3. ▶ 28:02Approve NOI for septic replacement at 85 Chase Road with standard order of conditionspassed (unanimous)
  4. ▶ 33:25Approve NOI for 10 Sunset Avenue with standard order of conditionspassed (unanimous)
  5. ▶ 36:17Continue 255 Sunny Hill Road NOI to 12/20passed (roll call, all aye)
  6. ▶ 39:04Continue 171 Arbor Street NOI to 12/20passed (roll call, all aye)
  7. ▶ 41:17Continue 20 Kilburn Street Lot 1 to 12/20passed (roll call, all aye)
  8. ▶ 42:01Continue 20 Kilburn Street Lot 2 to 12/20passed (roll call, all aye)
  9. ▶ 43:03Continue 20 Kilburn Street Lot 3 to 12/20passed (roll call, all aye)
  10. ▶ 51:28Approve field change at 406 Sunset Lane (recessed granite steps) as proposedpassed (unanimous)
  11. ▶ 2:31:07Use Kelly estate funds for title searches on three tax-title propertiespassed (unanimous)
  12. ▶ 2:53:01Authorize Mike to contact a contractor to service the Hollis Road heating system if the facilities director declinespassed (unanimous)

And 3 procedural: approve minutes of october 18 (▶ 7:05); approve minutes of november 1 (▶ 7:46); adjourn (▶ 2:56:12).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 17 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differs711 Mass Ave cease-and-desist conditions▶ 1:22:44

    recording At 711 Mass Ave the cease-and-desist stays until the applicant corrects the silt fence, locates missing wetland flags and provides a restoration plan; a site walk will follow.

    town’s minutes “it will be in place until they do the site walk and get a restoration plan in writing.”

    Order of site walk vs. restoration plan differs, and flags are not in official; check recording around t=4964.

  2. differsHollis Road lease follow-up with town counsel▶ 1:54:25

    recording Bob to consult town counsel about the Hollis Road lease and report back with options.

    town’s minutes “bob suggested talking to the town attorney about options, which he will present to the full board.”

    Substantially same; check that it was a decision rather than a suggestion.

  3. differs780 Northfield Road follow-up▶ 1:30:28

    recording Administrator to contact the 780 Northfield Road owner about a friendly enforcement order and place him on the 12/20 agenda.

    town’s minutes “he suggested sophie invite jim to the 12/20 meeting and she agreed.”

    Ours says contact the owner about an enforcement order; official says invite Jim (Lattanzi) to 12/20. Check who is invited and whether an order was discussed.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Member name Bob Pease:Bob Peas (member)→Bob Pease
  • Member name Jeff Viviano:Jeff Vivano (member)→Jeffrey Viviano
  • Administrator name:Sophie Doro (conservation administrator)→Sophie Darow
  • Presenter firm and chair surname:Ryan Proctor (Dillon Roy) (presenter)→Dillis & Roy
In one record only: 1 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Separate workshop preferred for training: Commissioners favored holding a separate workshop rather than adding training to regular meetings. ▶ 2:25:06
  • Town’s minutes only — Richard Bursch absent: “absent: richard b. call to order at 7pm”
  • Town’s minutes only — Minutes of Nov 15 held: “bob p. asked to hold the minutes for november 15th to the next meeting, so he can proofread them.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public comment on Rich Tremblay resignation: “public comment - bob p. noted he was not present at the end of the last meeting when rich tremblay said he was resigning from the commission.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Sandra Perko RDA pre-construction inspection condition: “would be the current administrator would visit the pre-construction site to inspect erosion controls before any work begins.”

Compared 2026-10-09. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:47:04Hollis Road house lease

    The tenant is on month-to-month after the lease expired and pays below market, with volunteer hours undocumented. Rent goes into a revolving fund for that property.

    as heard:$810 a monthtwo grand a month

  2. ▶ 2:31:07Kelly estate funds for title searches

    A purchase order was to be generated from the Kelly estate fund, with more added if searches cost more.

    as heard:$1,000

  3. ▶ 2:34:04MACC membership and handbook purchase

    Unclear what a purchase order covered and how much remains for training; the administrator is to follow up with accounting.

  4. ▶ 2:39:21Grants and local match for Lane property trail work

    Snow Riders grant work is well underway and vendor donation receipts and staged gravel may count toward the local match.

  5. ▶ 2:28:40Timber rights fund / forester

    A forester earns a percentage of timber sales; no update on whether the Raino property will be logged.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 9:55Town beach appointment hearing by Parks moved to the 12/20 meeting at the Parks chair's request.
  • ▶ 1:22:44At 711 Mass Ave the cease-and-desist stays until the applicant corrects the silt fence, locates missing wetland flags and provides a restoration plan; a site walk will follow.
  • ▶ 1:30:28Administrator to contact the 780 Northfield Road owner about a friendly enforcement order and place him on the 12/20 agenda.
  • ▶ 1:54:25Bob to consult town counsel about the Hollis Road lease and report back with options.
  • ▶ 1:44:48Administrator to print wetlands brochures and post them in Town Hall, the Ritter building and similar spots; QR code link waits on website cleanup.
  • ▶ 2:25:06Commissioners favored holding a separate workshop rather than adding training to regular meetings.
  • ▶ 2:52:40Heating service at Hollis Road goes on the next agenda; Mike will check with the facilities director first.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 5:40Chair invited public comment at the opening; no hands were raised.
  2. ▶ 16:40No public questions on the 64 Spring Street Extension deck RDA.
  3. ▶ 57:50Attendees stated why they stayed: watching the process, and the 7-Eleven/Mass Ave and 255 Sunny Hill Road matters; one neighbor of Sunny Hill Road recalled his earlier objection. — a speaker, resident
  4. ▶ 2:55:50Closing call for public comment; none.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:07Call to order and open meeting statementprocedural · 1:25 long
  2. ▶ 1:32Roll call, commissioner remarks and apology, Rich Trembley's resignationinformational · 5:13 long · public comment, personnel
  3. ▶ 6:45Approval of minutes (Oct 18, Nov 1; Nov 15 deferred)voted · 2:50 long · policy
  4. ▶ 9:35RDA, 64 Spring Street Extension deckvoted, negative determination · 9:32 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 19:07390 Howard Street ANRAD continuedcontinued to 12/20 · 5:21 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 24:28NOIs: 85 Chase Road septic and 10 Sunset Avenue patioboth approved · 10:06 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 34:34Continued hearings: Sunny Hill Road, Arbor Street, Kilburn Street lots 1-3continued to 12/20 · 9:36 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 44:10406 Sunset Lane field changevoted, approved · 8:20 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 52:30Certificates of compliance and attendee check-instaff follow-up · 9:16 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 1:01:46Enforcement: 711 Mass Ave cease-and-desistdialogue; order stays pending conditions · 26:31 long · planning and zoning, legal
  11. ▶ 1:28:17Enforcement list review (Northfield, Howard, Island Road, Mass Ave)assigned to administrator · 11:24 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 1:39:41Public education flyer, website and bulletin boardsaction items · 7:23 long · town departments
  13. ▶ 1:47:04Hollis Road leasereferred to town counsel · 8:23 long · legal, contracts and unions, housing
  14. ▶ 1:55:27Select board annual reportinformational · 2:50 long · town departments
  15. ▶ 1:58:17Tree protection, regulation interpretation, workshopsdiscussion; workshop favored · 26:49 long · policy, planning and zoning
  16. ▶ 2:25:06New commissioner recruitmentinformational · 3:34 long · personnel
  17. ▶ 2:28:40Old business: timber, Kelly funds, MACCKelly funds voted · 7:32 long · transfers, grants
  18. ▶ 2:36:12Administrator welcome, open space, Lane property grant work, Hollis Road upkeepheating service authorized · 18:55 long · grants, facilities
  19. ▶ 2:55:07Mosquito control notice, public comment, adjournadjourned · 1:48 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Whether the Nov 15 minutes were later approved (deferred).
  • Exact names of some speakers and applicants are mangled by captions.
  • Rent and fund figures may be misheard.

These are ours, and they are not the record

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