What was said

Conservation Commission, February 21, 2024

the recording · 4:03 long, about 28,683 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:50:49The Commission voted a positive determination on the Lake Shirley Dam maintenance path request, which means the project must file a notice of intent.
  2. ▶ 1:51:55The applicant was asked to check whether the town holds easement rights over Fire Road 19 to the dam.
  3. ▶ 2:21:08The Commission approved a third-party reviewer, Ecotech, for 390 Howard Street, contingent on staff confirming Ecotech knows of the site disturbance.
  4. ▶ 1:12:50The Commission approved notices of intent for septic work, a driveway and wall, and a lot on Kilburn Street, and continued two hearings to March 6.
  5. ▶ 2:58:54The Commission reached a consensus to stay fully remote, and extended the Lake Shirley order of conditions by three years.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The Lake Shirley dam path now needs a full notice of intent, which means a fuller wetlands review and a public hearing before work on the dam can proceed.
  • The third-party reviewer at 390 Howard Street would be paid through a town 53G account that the applicant funds, so the review is meant to be paid for by the applicant.
  • Staying remote affects how residents attend and comment on Conservation Commission hearings, and the commission has said it will tell the select board it prefers that.

Watch next

  • The continued hearings for 255 Sunny Hill Road and 171 Arbor Street, set for March 6.
  • The notice of intent filing for the Lake Shirley dam path, and whether the town holds easement rights over Fire Road 19.

facilitiesgrantslegalpersonnelplanning and zoningpolicypublic commenttown departments

Present: Chair (name not clearly captioned; addressed as Mary/Madam chair) (chair); Bob Peas (member); Jenny puer (member (new; not eligible to vote on some hearings)); Rich bur (member); Mike larouche (member); Chris St Germain (member); Sophie (staff administrator, Zoom co-host). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 1:12:50Approve notice of intent for septic work at 21 Birch Island Way as presented — moved by Bob, as heardpassed unanimously
  2. ▶ 1:25:01Approve notice of intent for driveway repavement and wall repair at 255 Prospect Street with standard order of conditions — moved by Bob, as heardpassed (roll call, all ayes heard)
  3. ▶ 1:50:49Positive determination for Lake Shirley Dam maintenance path request, recommending a notice of intentpassed unanimously
  4. ▶ 2:02:42Negative determination for sewer connection at 636 Mass Ave — moved by Bob, as heardpassed (roll call; Jenny's vote not audible)
  5. ▶ 2:21:08Approve use of Ecotech as third-party reviewer for 390 Howard Street, contingent on staff confirming Ecotech knows of site disturbance — moved by Bob, as heardpassed unanimously (Jenny not eligible)
  6. ▶ 2:23:34Continue 255 Sunny Hill Road hearing to March 6passed (Jenny not eligible)
  7. ▶ 2:29:42Continue 171 Arbor Street hearing to March 6passed (Jenny not eligible)
  8. ▶ 2:38:53Approve 20 Kilburn Street Lot 2 with standard order of conditions — moved by Chris St Germain, as heardpassed (Jenny not eligible)
  9. ▶ 2:58:11Make Bob the commission's representative to the town on website changespassed unanimously
  10. ▶ 3:33:47Authorize Bob and Chris to meet with the town manager/attorney about title-searched parcelspassed (roll call; Jenny's vote not audible)
  11. ▶ 3:40:21Extend Lake Shirley order of conditions three years — moved by Bob, as heardpassed (Jenny's vote not audible)

And 2 procedural: approve minutes of the prior meeting (▶ 5:55); adjourn (▶ 4:03:17).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 12 agree, 3 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 6 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsJenny's eligibility on 255 Sunny Hill Road continuation▶ 2:23:34

    recording Continue 255 Sunny Hill Road hearing to March 6 — passed (Jenny not eligible)

    town’s minutes “motion: bob p., second: mike l. to continue the hearing to 3/6/24.”

    Official records a unanimous roll call and notes Jenny's ineligibility only for 390 Howard; check the roll call to see whether Jenny voted.

  2. differsJenny's eligibility on 171 Arbor Street continuation▶ 2:29:42

    recording Continue 171 Arbor Street hearing to March 6 — passed (Jenny not eligible)

    town’s minutes “motion: mike l., second: chris s. to continue the hearing to 3/6/24.”

    Official records a unanimous roll call with no ineligibility noted; check whether Jenny voted.

  3. differsJenny's eligibility on 20 Kilburn St Lot 2 approval▶ 2:38:53

    recording Approve 20 Kilburn Street Lot 2 with standard order of conditions — passed (Jenny not eligible)

    town’s minutes “to approve as proposed with a standard order of conditions.”

    Same motion and outcome, but official shows a unanimous roll call and no ineligibility; check the vote tally.

  4. differsPage St parcel asking price▶ 3:58:00

    recording Landlocked parcel for sale: $49,900

    town’s minutes “said it is listed for sale on redfin for $49k.”

    Official prints $49k, ours $49,900; check the Redfin listing for the actual asking price.

  5. differsWho checks easement rights over Fire Road 19▶ 1:51:55

    recording Applicant to check whether the town holds easement rights over Fire Road 19 to the dam.

    town’s minutes “the town may have deeded rights to access their property off fire rd 19, which he will look into.”

    Ours assigns the follow-up to the applicant; official assigns it to Bob; check the recording for who took it.

  6. differsLake Shirley Dam repair funding▶ 1:51:55

    recording —

    town’s minutes “state money to repair the dam and the town may have deeded rights to access their property”

    Official records discussion of applying for state money; ours records the easement check but no funding discussion. Check the recording.

3 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Attendee: Bob Pease:Bob Peas (member)→Bob Pease▶ 0:00
  • Attendee: Jennifer Pewtherer:Jenny puer (member (new; not eligible to vote on some hearings))→Jennifer Pewtherer▶ 0:00
  • Attendee: Rich Bursch:Rich bur (member)→Richard Bursch▶ 0:00
In one record only: 3 from the recording, 7 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Hickory Hills sonar treatment $225,000: Hickory Hills sonar treatment: $225,000 ▶ 47:19
  • Recording only — Remote meeting preference and chair's proposal: Commission consensus to ask for the chair's earlier proposal; chair to tell the select board the commission prefers to stay fully remote. ▶ 2:58:54
  • Recording only — 960 Mass Ave extension request dropped: 960 Mass Ave extension request dropped from agendas as an error. ▶ 3:35:13
  • Town’s minutes only — 780 Northfield Road culvert enforcement form: “she will send it out to the commissioners for comment.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Title-search parcel follow-ups: “at a future meeting, bob will ask for authorization to have the assessor aggregate the parcels”
  • Town’s minutes only — RFQs for parking area planning drawings: “bob said he will work on it after the website.”
  • Town’s minutes only — 390 Howard St 53G funding: “initiate the paperwork for the 53g funding and fund the account”
  • Town’s minutes only — Conservation Assistant resignation: “mary noted that ashleigh has put in her 2 week notice and her last day will be 2/29/24.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public comment on absent applicants: “ken did state his frustration at attending multiple meetings that the applicant/agent did not show.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Absent member Jeff Viviano: “absent: jeff v . call to order at 7pm”

Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 47:19Hickory Hills sonar treatment

    Another whole-lake treatment would be costly, so the group wants to delay it by controlling fanwort.

    as heard:$225,000

  2. ▶ 2:20:05Third-party review funding (53G)

    The town would start 53G funding and hire and pay the reviewer, with the applicant funding the account.

  3. ▶ 3:50:17Hollis Road residence kitchen rehab

    A budget number for non-cabinet work would be sought, with cabinets sourced separately; no vote was needed.

    as heard:$10,000 cap

  4. ▶ 3:58:00Landlocked parcel for sale

    A landlocked parcel near the Fairbanks gift area was noted as listed for sale.

    as heard:$49,900

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:51:55Applicant to check whether the town holds easement rights over Fire Road 19 to the dam.
  • ▶ 2:58:54Commission consensus to ask for the chair's earlier proposal; chair to tell the select board the commission prefers to stay fully remote.
  • ▶ 3:51:59Hollis Road kitchen: no vote needed; contractor may work up a non-cabinet cost number.
  • ▶ 3:35:13960 Mass Ave extension request dropped from agendas as an error.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 2:24:17Asked to comment on 255 Sunny Hill Road; told he could not because the applicant was absent; voiced frustration over repeated no-shows and continuances. — Ken Patton, as heard
  2. ▶ 2:40:38Suggested announcing continued hearings at the start of the meeting, as Worcester does, so the public can leave early. — a speaker, applicant's engineer (Greg Roy, as addressed)

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Opening, roll call, announcementsinformational · 5:55 long
  2. ▶ 5:55Approval of prior minutesvoted · 1:05 long · policy
  3. ▶ 7:00Hickory Hills Lake annual reportinformational · 58:48 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  4. ▶ 1:05:4821 Birch Island Way septic NOIvoted · 8:07 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 1:13:55255 Prospect Street NOIvoted · 12:12 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 1:26:07Lake Shirley Dam maintenance path RDAvoted · 26:10 long · planning and zoning, facilities
  7. ▶ 1:52:17636 Mass Ave sewer connection RDAvoted · 11:31 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 2:03:48390 Howard Street ANRAD third-party reviewervoted · 19:24 long · planning and zoning, legal
  9. ▶ 2:23:12Continuances and public frustrationvoted · 7:34 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  10. ▶ 2:30:4620 Kilburn Street Lot 2 NOIvoted · 9:52 long · planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 2:40:38Agenda practice for continued hearingsinformational · 7:18 long · public comment, policy
  12. ▶ 2:47:56Earth Day and town websitevoted · 11:19 long · town departments
  13. ▶ 2:59:15In-person vs remote meetingsno resolution; consensus to stay remote · 24:45 long · policy
  14. ▶ 3:24:00Title searches, encroachment, extensionsvoted · 18:10 long · legal, planning and zoning
  15. ▶ 3:42:10Enforcement, grants, land and Hollis Road updatesinformational · 13:24 long · grants, facilities
  16. ▶ 3:55:34Committee reports, staff resignation, adjournmentvoted · 8:04 long · personnel

What the captions could not carry

  • Jenny's vote on several roll calls not audible or muted
  • Chair's name not clearly captioned
  • Exact prior-minutes meeting date garbled

These are ours, and they are not the record

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