What was said

Conservation Commission, April 3, 2024

the recording · 5:06 long, about 32,230 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:58:18The Commission approved a 376 Sunset Lane notice of intent for dock and deck reconstruction 3-2, with open-seam permeable decking required and the gutter/drywell request denied.
  2. ▶ 3:36:27It continued a notice of intent at 255 Sunny Hill Road to April 17 pending a third-party consultant review of the wetland delineation.
  3. ▶ 3:57:03It approved removal of any of eight trees at 34 Hemlock Terrace under a negative determination, with stumps left in place.
  4. ▶ 4:21:20It authorized two Timber Rights Fund items: backing an Earth Day newspaper ad split with Parks, and additional trail markers.
  5. ▶ 4:05:29Most other hearings were continued, and a vote on more probate title work was tabled until the cost is known.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Sunny Hill Road is the one hearing where an outside consultant's review is being sought, with the applicant paying into escrow, so the extent of the wetland line there will be decided on that review.
  • The Commission's talk of consulting fees, higher application fees and a town meeting revolving fund article points to a possible warrant question on how wetlands review is paid for.

Watch next

  • April 17 Conservation Commission meeting, when the 255 Sunny Hill Road, 386 Sunset Lane, 390 Howard Street and 305 Arbor Street items return.
  • A town meeting warrant article for a consulting fee revolving fund, with fee schedule changes going to two legal-ad hearings.

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Present: Bob Peas (member, remote); Jenny Puer (member, remote); Rich Burch (member, remote); Mike Larouche (member, remote); Chris St Germain (member, remote); Jeff Viviano (member (absent, said to be out)); Sophie (conservation administrator/agent); the chair (chair); Greg Roy (Dillis Roy) (presenter, applicant representative, remote); Brian Marett (presenter, engineer for applicants, remote). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 11:00Continue 171 Arbor Street hearing to April 17 — moved by Chris, as heardpassed; Jenny not voting
  2. ▶ 31:25Continue 189 Hemlock hearing (RDA) to May 1passed; all voting members aye
  3. ▶ 1:22:02Continue 141 Hemlock Drive RDA hearing to May 15 — moved by Mike, as heardpassed; all voting members aye
  4. ▶ 1:58:18Approve 376 Sunset Lane NOI with open-seam permeable decking, gutter/drywell denied, expansion allowed, fence posts by hand or driven — moved by Rich, as heardpassed 3-2 (Mike and Bob voted no)
  5. ▶ 2:40:55Continue 386 Sunset Lane amendment hearing to April 17 — moved by Chris, as heardpassed; all aye
  6. ▶ 2:49:43Continue 390 Howard Street hearing to April 17 — moved by Rich, as heardpassed; Jenny did not vote
  7. ▶ 3:36:27Continue 255 Sunny Hill Road NOI to April 17 pending third-party consultant review — moved by Chris, as heardpassed; Jenny did not vote
  8. ▶ 3:57:03Approve removal of any of trees 1-8 at 34 Hemlock Terrace at applicant's discretion, stumps left, applicant to notify office afterward (negative determination) — moved by Chris, as heardpassed; all aye
  9. ▶ 4:21:20Support funding from the Timber Rights Fund for a Ledger ad, split with Parks — moved by Bob, as heardpassed; all aye
  10. ▶ 4:53:59Issue certificate of compliance for 305 Arbor Street, DEP file 208-472 — moved by Bob, as heardpassed; all aye
  11. ▶ 4:55:09Continue certificate of compliance for DEP file 208-387 (305 Arbor Street) to April 17 — moved by Mike, as heardpassed; all aye
  12. ▶ 4:55:51Authorize an expenditure from the Timber Rights Fund to buy additional trail markerspassed; all aye

And 3 procedural: approve march 6 meeting minutes as distributed (▶ 4:34); approve the september 6 minutes (▶ 5:38); approve the august 16 minutes (▶ 6:47).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 21 agree, 5 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differs376 Sunset Lane NOI vote tally▶ 1:58:18

    recording Approve 376 Sunset Lane NOI with open-seam permeable decking, gutter/drywell denied, expansion allowed, fence posts by hand or driven — passed 3-2 (Mike and Bob voted no)

    town’s minutes “motion: rich b., second: bob p. to approve the application with special conditions that the decking be standard open seam decking”

    Ours counts 3-2 and says Bob voted no, but the official minutes record 4-2 with Bob P. seconding the motion; check the recording at this vote for who voted and how many members voted. The official 'hand installation of safety fence' condition may also differ from ours ('hand or driven').

  2. differsCertificate of Compliance, Northfield Rd, Lot A

    recording —

    town’s minutes “motion: bob p., second: mike l. to approve the certificate of compliance for northfield rd, lot a.”

    The official minutes record a 5-0 vote that our minutes do not; check the recording for whether it was voted (possibly missed or not captioned).

  3. differsConsulting fees and revolving fund▶ 4:17:32

    recording Rich and another volunteer will draft conditions for invoking consulting fees; fee schedule changes to go to two legal-ad hearings.

    town’s minutes “heather has added a warrant to the town meeting to set up a revolving fund for that.”

    Ours describes drafting conditions and two hearings; the official minutes describe a Town Meeting warrant article for a revolving fund. These may be different parts of one discussion; check the recording around 15370-15493.

5 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Ledger ad amount:Ledger ad for Earth Day, Timber Rights Fund: $85, 80 up to $85→$85▶ 4:21:20
  • Member Bob Pease:Bob Peas (member)→Bob Pease
  • Member Jenny Pewtherer:Jenny Puer (member)→Jennifer Pewtherer
  • Member Richard Bursch:Rich Burch (member)→Richard Bursch
  • Engineer Brian Marchetti:Brian Marett (presenter, engineer for applicants)→Brian Marchetti
In one record only: 5 from the recording, 2 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Consulting fee structure and revolving fund figures: Consulting fee structure and revolving fund: $100,000, $500 ▶ 4:16:10
  • Recording only — Application fee hours: Raising application fees: five hours a week ▶ 4:18:13
  • Recording only — Administrative assistant hours: Administrative assistant hours: 10 hours per week ▶ 4:14:46
  • Recording only — 386 Sunset Lane applicant requests and straw poll: At 386 Sunset Lane, applicant to provide replacement tree plan, paver details and before/after walkway square footage; straw poll was favourable to maple removal with two red maples. ▶ 2:28:28
  • Recording only — OpenGov NOI target date: Target of about May 7 set for the NOI application going online in OpenGov. ▶ 4:13:17
  • Town’s minutes only — Wetlands brochure in tax mailing: “wetlands brochure in tax mailing - will discuss at next meeting.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Applicants, abutters and public speakers: “ken paton (290 leominster rd -abutter) - said he appreciated having the driveway moved away from”

Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 4:21:20Ledger ad for Earth Day, Timber Rights Fund

    Ads cost the stated amount and Parks agreed verbally to split it. The commission voted to cover up to the stated amount from the Timber Rights Fund if Parks cannot.

    as heard:$8580 up to $85

  2. ▶ 4:55:51Trail markers, Timber Rights Fund

    A motion authorized spending from the Timber Rights Fund on additional trail markers.

    as heard:$1,070

  3. ▶ 4:16:10Consulting fee structure and revolving fund

    The regulations set a maximum consulting fee by project cost tier. A town meeting warrant article would set up the revolving fund to collect these fees.

    as heard:$100,000$500

  4. ▶ 4:18:13Raising application fees

    The chair proposed raising application fees to fund technical support, since fees are low compared with nearby towns. No objection, so the work will continue.

    as heard:five hours a week

  5. ▶ 4:14:46Administrative assistant hours

    A new assistant was confirmed at the select board and is budgeted for a set number of hours a week. The town is considering extra interim hours.

    as heard:10 hours per week

  6. ▶ 4:05:09Title search legal costs

    Cost of further probate work on a title search is unknown; vote was tabled until the billing rate is understood.

  7. ▶ 3:10:35Third-party consultant review fees for Sunny Hill Road

    Quotes will be solicited by the office, then the applicant pays into escrow.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:18:09Site walk at 141 Hemlock Drive to be scheduled in May when the owner returns, and to be prioritized by Sophie; hearing continued to May 15.
  • ▶ 2:28:28At 386 Sunset Lane, applicant to provide replacement tree plan, paver details and before/after walkway square footage; straw poll was favourable to maple removal with two red maples.
  • ▶ 3:04:53Third-party consultant review of wetland and riverfront delineation to be sought for 255 Sunny Hill Road; Sophie to request quotes from consultants.
  • ▶ 2:48:57Sophie to get Rick Perkins' permission to inspect his property for siltation; he was referred to the stormwater task force and DPW.
  • ▶ 4:06:53Commission agreed informally to move office files from Google Drive to SharePoint, with photos staying on Google until fixed.
  • ▶ 4:13:17Target of about May 7 set for the NOI application going online in OpenGov.
  • ▶ 4:17:32Rich and another volunteer will draft conditions for invoking consulting fees; fee schedule changes to go to two legal-ad hearings.
  • ▶ 4:05:29Vote to authorize more probate title work was tabled until costs are known.
  • ▶ 4:38:08Mr Patel at 10 Mass Ave told to file paperwork within 30 days and do no more work until permission is given.
  • ▶ 5:05:39Applicant at 41 Country Road to add signs and meet Sophie on site; commission did not sign off on the COC before stabilization.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 2:46Chair asked for public comment at the start; none raised.
  2. ▶ 2:27:24Supported removing the dying 12-inch maple at 386 Sunset Lane and replacing it. — Chris Colberg, as heard, abutter, 380 Sunset Lane
  3. ▶ 2:44:05Water and silt running onto his property from the O'Brien development at 390 Howard Street; retention ponds not holding water. — Rick Perkins, as heard, resident, 520 Howard Street
  4. ▶ 3:17:02Argued the wetland delineation at 255 Sunny Hill Road should extend further, showed photos and plans, and raised drainage pipes and runoff. — Ken Patton, as heard, abutter at Sunny Hill Road
  5. ▶ 3:32:59Applicant Stephan McWeeney said the engineer had addressed his comments on the Sunny Hill project.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:02Opening, recording issues, roll callinformational · 2:44 long
  2. ▶ 2:46Public commentnone offered · 1:25 long · public comment
  3. ▶ 4:11Approval of three sets of minutesvoted · 3:37 long
  4. ▶ 7:48171 Arbor Street continuationcontinued to April 17 · 4:32 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 12:20189 Hemlock RDA tree removal and deckcontinued to May 1 · 19:45 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 32:06141 Hemlock Drive RDA: steps/path; expired order of conditions and tree cuttingcontinued to May 15 · 50:34 long · planning and zoning, legal
  7. ▶ 1:22:40376 Sunset Lane NOI: dock/deck reconstructionapproved with conditions, 3-2 · 37:20 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 2:00:05386 Sunset Lane amendment to order of conditionscontinued to April 17 · 41:30 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 2:41:36390 Howard Street ARAD continuation and neighbor complaintcontinued to April 17 · 8:48 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  10. ▶ 2:50:24255 Sunny Hill Road NOI: wetland delineation, third-party reviewcontinued to April 17 · 46:46 long · planning and zoning, public comment
  11. ▶ 3:37:1034 Hemlock Terrace RDA tree removalapproved, negative determination · 23:03 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 4:01:36Old business and office operations: title searches, SharePoint, OpenGov, staffing, fees, consulting, Earth Day ad, brochuremixed; ad vote passed, title vote tabled · 22:33 long · fees, staffing, technology
  13. ▶ 4:24:31Violation: 10 Mass Aveinformational; filing within 30 days requested · 16:04 long · legal, planning and zoning
  14. ▶ 4:40:58Certificates of compliance at 305 Arbor Streetone issued, one continued · 14:52 long · planning and zoning
  15. ▶ 4:55:51Trail markers expenditurevoted · 0:45 long · budget
  16. ▶ 4:56:5941 Country Road certificate of compliancecorrections requested; no vote audible · 9:41 long · planning and zoning

What the captions could not carry

  • Recording ends mid-discussion of 41 Country Road; any final vote or adjournment is not in the captions.
  • The Ledger ad amount is rendered inconsistently (80 up to $85).
  • Several roll call votes are partial (Rich on mute, Jenny not voting).
  • Some speaker identities are unclear.

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