What was said
Conservation Commission, May 1, 2024
the recording · 2:45 long, about 16,761 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes.json
The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 2:22:39The commission approved a beaver-flow device at the Cranberry area and sent the 255 Sunny Hill Road wetland review to third-party review, then continued that hearing to May 15.
- ▶ 1:08:28It accepted a quote for third-party wetland delineation review only at 255 Sunny Hill Road, a narrower scope than the full-scope quote the applicant had objected to.
- ▶ 49:34It approved wetland filings: a beach sand RDA at Hickory Hills, a tree-removal RDA at 189 Hemlock Drive, and an order of conditions amendment at 386 Sunset Lane.
- ▶ 1:50:48A motion to issue a notice of non-compliance at 205 Sunset Lane was not audible in the record, and staff were assigned to research the order's timing first.
- ▶ 2:34:01The commission moved title search spending from the Kelly Fund to the timber rights fund, and approved several small purchases and a building repainting.
Why it matters — our reading
- The Kelly Fund is being kept for major land acquisitions, so routine title-search costs now come from the timber rights fund instead.
- Third-party wetland review at 255 Sunny Hill Road adds a consultant step before the commission rules, and the applicant pays a deposit for it.
- The commission is considering an earlier meeting end time because the administrator cannot support meetings past 10 pm, which could affect how long hearings can run.
Watch next
- Continued hearings at 390 Howard Street, 171 Arbor Street, 141 Hemlock Drive and 255 Sunny Hill Road return on May 15.
- The 205 Sunset Lane non-compliance question and the 950 Chase Road drone photos are due for review at the next meeting.
contracts and unionsexecutive sessionfeeslegalplanning and zoningpublic comment
Present: Chris St Germain (member, remote); Mike Larouche (member, remote); Jeff vivano (member, remote); Jenny puer (member, remote); Rich Burch (member, remote); Bob Peas (member, remote); Sophie (conservation administrator, remote); The chair (chair). 1 of 8 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 6:27Continue 390 Howard Street hearing to May 15 — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
- ▶ 7:32Continue 171 Arbor Street notice of intent hearing to May 15 — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
- ▶ 8:37Continue 141 Hemlock Drive RDA to May 15 — moved by Chris, as heardpassed
- ▶ 17:52Approve Hickory Hills 80 Horizon Island Road beach sand RDA with a negative determination — moved by Chris, as heardpassed
- ▶ 49:34Approve 189 Hemlock Drive RDA with negative determination and replacement planting plan as presented — moved by Bob, as heardpassed
- ▶ 1:08:28Accept the LEC quote for third-party wetland delineation review only at 255 Sunny Hill Road — moved by Chris, as heardpassed
- ▶ 1:11:18Continue 255 Sunny Hill Road hearing to May 15 — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
- ▶ 1:15:34Approve amendment to order of conditions at 386 Sunset Lane with plan as amendedpassed
- ▶ 1:17:43Approve certificate of compliance for 701 Reservoir Road — moved by Chris, as heardpassed
- ▶ 1:19:09Approve certificate of compliance for 33 Johnson Street — moved by Chris, as heardpassed
- ▶ 1:31:59Approve certificate of compliance for 81 Maple Parkway — moved by Bob, as heardpassed
- ▶ 1:34:07Approve certificate of compliance for 97 Cross Street — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
- ▶ 1:39:03Approve notice of project change at 441 Towns Harbor Roadpassed
- ▶ 1:50:48Issue notice of non-compliance at 205 Sunset Lane — moved by Bob, as heardnot audible
- ▶ 2:22:39Hire Beaver Associates to install a beaver deceiver at the Cranberry area — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
- ▶ 2:29:49Approve purchase of materials for a footbridge on Table Rock trails — moved by Chris, as heardpassed
- ▶ 2:34:01Shift title search spending from the Kelly Fund to the timber rights fund with a new initial purchase order — moved by Bob, as heardpassed
- ▶ 2:39:36Repaint the remainder of the Hollis Road building — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
- ▶ 2:43:58Purchase dry mustard for pollinator habitat jumping worm eradication — moved by Mike, as heardpassed
And 2 procedural: approve april 17 meeting minutes (▶ 3:57); adjourn (▶ 2:45:05).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 23 agree, 10 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 1 substantive difference. The town’s minutes are a full record.
recording Approve 189 Hemlock Drive RDA with negative determination and replacement planting plan as presented — passed
town’s minutes “to approve with a negative determination with the replacement plan as presented.”
Both say passed, but official's roll call shows Mike voting no and Rich B. recused; ours records no dissent or recusal. Check the recording around this vote for the individual votes.
10 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
- Beach sand RDA address:Approve Hickory Hills 80 Horizon Island Road beach sand RDA with a negative determination — passed→19 Island Road▶ 17:52
- 441 Townsend Harbor Road notice of project change:Approve notice of project change at 441 Towns Harbor Road — passed→441 Townsend Harbor Rd.▶ 1:39:03
- Beaver deceiver location:Hire Beaver Associates to install a beaver deceiver at the Cranberry area — passed→Cowdrey▶ 2:22:39
- Footbridge lumber sizes:Footbridge materials on Table Rock trail: 26t 4x4s→4 x 4s, 2 x 6s▶ 2:27:19
- Name of the fund:Kelly Fund→Kelley Fund▶ 2:34:01
- Dry mustard requested amount:Dry mustard for pollinator habitat: $80. 32, $80→$80.32▶ 2:41:07
- Consultant deposit check amount:Consultant deposit check: 500→$1,500▶ 1:09:29
- Member name Bob Pease:Bob Peas (member)→Bob Pease
- Member name Jenny Pewtherer:Jenny puer (member)→Jennifer Pewtherer
- Member name Rich Bursch:Rich Burch (member)→Richard Bursch
In one record only: 2 from the recording, 5 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — $4,800 figure for Hollis Road painting: Hollis Road building painting: $6,400, $4,800 ▶ 2:38:55
- Recording only — Meeting end time consideration: Commission to consider meeting end time since the administrator can't support meetings past 10 pm. ▶ 2:35:46
- Town’s minutes only — 10 Mass Ave matter: “mary noted they will discuss at the next meeting.”
- Town’s minutes only — 607 Reservoir Rd. dock enforcement letter: “bob replied that the administrator will send an enforcement letter to have them apply to install their dock.”
- Town’s minutes only — 315 Lancaster Ave. pre-litigation letter: “bob has had no response and has asked the town attorney to send a pre-litigation letter.”
- Town’s minutes only — 141 Hemlock enforcement item continued: “sophie noted to be continued.”
- Town’s minutes only — Applicants, consultants and public speakers: “john plifka (mccarty engineering) stated they are requesting a 3rd party review for the wetland delineation.”
Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
Transfers
| at | what moved | amount, as heard | outcome |
|---|---|---|---|
| ▶ 2:34:01 | Title search expenditures moved from the Kelly Fund purchase order to a new purchase order from the timber rights fund | $1,000 | voted |
The money
- ▶ 53:08Third-party wetland review quote, 255 Sunny Hill Road
A full-scope consultant quote was seen as too broad by the applicant. Separate delineation-only quotes were discussed and the cheaper firm was chosen.
as heard:$8,5002, uh $5001,5002,500500
- ▶ 2:21:35Beaver deceiver at the Cranberry area
Quote to hire Beaver Associates to install a flow device so beavers stop flooding the access road. A past consultation fee was never paid and also needs paying.
as heard:$3,300$175
- ▶ 2:27:19Footbridge materials on Table Rock trail
Lumber and deck screws to be bought through the existing purchase order for volunteers building a bridge.
as heard:26t 4x4s
- ▶ 2:33:19Title searches funding source
Title searches to be funded from the timber rights fund rather than the Kelly Fund to preserve the latter for major acquisitions.
as heard:$1,000
- ▶ 2:38:55Hollis Road building painting
Painting the remainder of the building for a quoted price, following earlier approval of trim work.
as heard:$6,400$4,800
- ▶ 2:41:07Dry mustard for pollinator habitat
Purchase of dry mustard to fight jumping worms, paid from the habitat account used previously.
as heard:$80. 32$80
- ▶ 1:09:29Consultant deposit check
Applicant to send a check to the office, held in an account until work completes.
as heard:500
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 1:30:53No motion on the 255 Prospect Street certificate of compliance; held off until vegetation is established, applicant to call back.
- ▶ 2:06:11Reminder letter, possibly through town attorney, to the Fire Road 12 owners about the order of conditions expiring in July; no enforcement action now.
- ▶ 1:52:12Administrator and Bob to research whether the 205 Sunset Lane order of conditions was issued before any non-compliance notice; revisit next meeting.
- ▶ 2:10:26Jeff to fly a drone for photos at 950 Chase Road.
- ▶ 2:35:46Commission to consider meeting end time since the administrator can't support meetings past 10 pm.
Public comment
- ▶ 2:11:51Asked how the enforcement process works for a neighbor's dock at 607/609/611 and said the neighbor installed fences within the 30-foot no-touch zone. — a speaker, resident (neighbor)
- ▶ 2:15:56Responded to the 950 Chase Road concerns, saying the shed and clearing pre-dated their 2018 purchase, the shed is on Town property, and they stopped snowmobile use. — Amanda Lor, as heard, homeowner
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- planning and zoning126 min · 76%
- contracts and unions35 min · 21%
- legal31 min · 19%
- transfers14 min · 9%
- public comment10 min · 6%
- facilities9 min · 6%
- fees9 min · 6%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:10Opening script, roll call, public commentinformational · 3:47 long
- ▶ 3:57Approval of April 17 minutesvoted · 1:03 long
- ▶ 5:00Hearing continuations to May 15voted · 5:00 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 10:00Hickory Hills beach sand RDAvoted · 9:20 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 19:38189 Hemlock Drive tree removal RDAvoted · 31:02 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 51:04255 Sunny Hill Road third-party wetland reviewvoted · 20:56 long · planning and zoning, contracts and unions
- ▶ 1:12:00386 Sunset Lane order of conditions amendmentvoted · 4:36 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:16:36Certificates of compliancevoted · 18:12 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:34:48441 Towns Harbor Road notice of project changevoted · 6:02 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 1:40:50Enforcement actions and fines processreferred · 30:40 long · legal, planning and zoning
- ▶ 2:11:30Resident comment on enforcementinformational · 9:44 long · public comment
- ▶ 2:21:14Beaver deceiver, trail bridge materials, title search fundingvoted · 14:11 long · transfers, contracts and unions
- ▶ 2:35:25Meeting length, Hollis Road building, pollinator habitatvoted · 9:19 long · facilities, fees
- ▶ 2:44:44Adjournmentvoted · 0:41 long
What the captions could not carry
- Outcome of the vote to issue a notice of non-compliance at 205 Sunset Lane (motion made, then research requested; no result stated).
- The 441 Towns Harbor Road mover was not identified.
- Roll-call counts for several votes were read as individual 'hi' responses; Mike larouche's 'no' on 189 Hemlock Drive is the only dissent captured, and Jenny's recusal is only partly clear on the delineation vote.
- Dollar figures in the Sunny Hill Road quote discussion are inconsistent in the captions.
- Date and detail of timing around the Fire Road 12 order of conditions are partly garbled.
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