What was said

Conservation Commission, June 5, 2024

the recording · 2:36 long, about 17,567 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 53:50The commission continued most open hearings to July 3, including the Old Stone Farm Store duplex subdivision and the PJ Keating pump house request.
  2. ▶ 20:32It approved a negative determination for a fence at 41 Country Road.
  3. ▶ 1:17:20It issued certificates of compliance for three properties and accepted a deck change at 30 Johnson Street as a field change to its order of conditions.
  4. ▶ 2:15:23It approved three replacement Timber Rights Fund purchase orders after the new Treasurer's year-end closing requirement, and tabled a mower purchase.
  5. ▶ 1:49:45The chair will serve until July 3; one chair candidate exists and no vice chair or clerk candidate has been found.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Projects near wetlands in town, including a subdivision and a pump house, remain undecided until at least July 3, and the pump house also awaits a state Natural Heritage response.
  • The commission has an unissued-decision backlog and may start July without a full slate of officers, which can affect how fast permits for local projects are finalized.

Watch next

  • July 3 meeting: continued hearings return, and officer nominations are due.
  • A status and aging list of unissued decisions, which the administrator is to prepare.

executive sessiongrantshousingpersonnelplanning and zoningpublic commentrecreation

Present: Mary (chair); Jenny Pewtherer (member); Rich (member); Chris (member); Mike Larouche (member); Sophie (conservation administrator); Greg Roy (presenter (Dillon Roy, representing applicants)); Matt marrow (presenter (wetland scientist)). 2 of 8 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 6:06Continue the Lot 2 Crossroad notice of intent to July 3 — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
  2. ▶ 7:07Continue 255 Sunny Hill Road notice of intent to July 3 — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
  3. ▶ 8:08Continue 171 Arbor Street amendment to July 3 — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
  4. ▶ 20:32Approve the 41 Country Road request for determination with a negative determinationpassed
  5. ▶ 25:45Continue the Courtland Circle hearing until later in the meeting — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
  6. ▶ 53:50Continue the Old Stone Farm Store (791 Mass Ave) notice of intent to July 3 — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
  7. ▶ 1:10:05Continue the PJ Keating pump house request for determination to July 3passed
  8. ▶ 1:11:57Continue 390 Howard Street abbreviated notice of resource area delineation to July 3 — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
  9. ▶ 1:13:20Continue zero Courtland Circle to July 3 — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
  10. ▶ 1:17:20Issue certificate of compliance for 667 Reservoir Road — moved by Chris, as heardpassed
  11. ▶ 1:18:04Issue certificate of compliance for 290 New West Townsend Road — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
  12. ▶ 1:19:12Issue certificate of compliance for 255 Prospect Streetpassed
  13. ▶ 1:27:31Accept the 30 Johnson Street deck change as a field change to the order of conditions — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
  14. ▶ 2:14:20Approve spending from the Timber Rights Fund for Beaver Solutionspassed
  15. ▶ 2:15:23Approve a new purchase order for building supplies from the Timber Rights Fund — moved by Rich, as heardpassed
  16. ▶ 2:16:04Approve a new purchase order for MRPC GIS trail workpassed
  17. ▶ 2:16:27Approve a new purchase order for Express.com/smart sign signs — moved by Chris, as heardpassed

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 2:36:08).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 19 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsPJ Keating pump house vs 495 Leominster-Shirley Road continuance▶ 1:10:05

    recording Continue the PJ Keating pump house request for determination to July 3 — passed

    town’s minutes “to continue 495 leominster-shirley road to 7/3/24.”

    Probably the same item under two names, but the records name it differently (ours: a request for determination). Check the agenda to confirm 495 Leominster-Shirley Road is the PJ Keating pump house.

  2. differsMRPC GIS trail work purchase order vote▶ 2:16:04

    recording Approve a new purchase order for MRPC GIS trail work — passed

    town’s minutes —

    The official minutes record only the Maki ($1,000) and ExpressMyself ($500) purchase orders. Check the recording and the clerk's notes to see whether a third purchase order (our figures list a $600) was voted.

  3. differsHollis Road mower outcome▶ 2:33:59

    recording The mower purchase question is tabled to the next meeting.

    town’s minutes “the commission discussed options and opted to wait for better donations.”

    Both defer, but ours says tabled to next meeting and the official minutes say wait for better donations, with the rent vote deferred to July. Check the recording around t=9239.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Beaver grant amount:21 $100 Grant, $250→$2,100▶ 2:13:36
  • Vendor name Express.com:Express.com/smart sign→ExpressMyself.com▶ 2:16:27
  • Name Bob Pease:Bob Peas→Bob Pease▶ 1:49:45
  • Presenter Greg Roy's firm:Greg Roy (presenter (Dillon Roy, representing applicants))→Dillis & Roy
In one record only: 8 from the recording, 6 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Mower replacement figures: Replacement mower for Hollis Road residence: $300, $500, $1,000 ▶ 2:23:54
  • Recording only — Straw poll on PJ Keating pump house: In a straw poll, three commissioners indicated support for the PJ Keating pump house project once Natural Heritage responds and a stockpile location is shown; Rich declined to state a position. ▶ 1:09:20
  • Recording only — Violation notice for 205 Sunset Lane: A violation notice is to be issued for 205 Sunset Lane. ▶ 1:30:00
  • Recording only — Hickory Hill Lake Owners Association withdrawal: Hickory Hill Lake Owners Association withdrew its request and will return after July 3. ▶ 1:30:46
  • Recording only — Old Stone Farm Store applicant to return with tree count: The Old Stone Farm Store applicant will return July 3 with a tree count and readable plans, and the lot 3 distance to Riley Road to be confirmed. ▶ 54:11
  • Recording only — Northfield Road informal concept: Commission raised no objection to the informal Northfield Road concept of a single subdivision road; no vote taken. ▶ 2:11:10
  • Recording only — Minutes behind, note-taker ill: Minutes remain behind because the note-taker has been ill. ▶ 3:37
  • Recording only — Matt Marrow, wetland scientist: Matt marrow (presenter (wetland scientist))
  • Town’s minutes only — Hollis Road rent increase: “they can wait until july to vote on this.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Village at Flat Hills contact: “chris will talk to the group”
  • Town’s minutes only — 495 Leominster-Shirley Road waits on NHESP: “mary stated that they have to wait for nhesp approval prior to voting.”
  • Town’s minutes only — LCC grant competitive bid: “mary noted that they do not need to send it out for competitive bid.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Other presenters and public: “jonathan collette (haley & ward)- screen-shared the site plan”
  • Town’s minutes only — Absent members: “absent: jeff v. and bob p.”

Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:13:36Beaver deceiver grant and Timber Rights Fund

    A grant from MSPCA covers part of the beaver management work, and the commission approved a small top-up from the Timber Rights Fund.

    as heard:21 $100 Grant$250

  2. ▶ 2:15:01Replacement purchase orders for Timber Rights Fund

    Because the new town Treasurer requires purchase orders to be closed at year end, three new POs were approved to replace unexpended FY2023 ones.

    as heard:$1,000$600$500

  3. ▶ 2:23:54Replacement mower for Hollis Road residence

    Members discussed possibly buying a used mower from the Hollis Road trust fund but preferred to seek donations first and tabled the matter.

    as heard:$300$500$1,000

  4. ▶ 2:30:59Rent at Hollis Road residence

    A member noted a separate effort to move the tenant's rent toward market rate, which could free discretionary money for mowing.

  5. ▶ 2:17:28Planning grant for Table Rock and Herold Harley access

    The grant work does not need competitive bidding because of an exemption.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 3:37Minutes remain behind because the note-taker has been ill.
  • ▶ 54:11The Old Stone Farm Store applicant will return July 3 with a tree count and readable plans, and the lot 3 distance to Riley Road to be confirmed.
  • ▶ 1:09:20In a straw poll, three commissioners indicated support for the PJ Keating pump house project once Natural Heritage responds and a stockpile location is shown; Rich declined to state a position.
  • ▶ 1:30:00A violation notice is to be issued for 205 Sunset Lane.
  • ▶ 1:30:46Hickory Hill Lake Owners Association withdrew its request and will return after July 3.
  • ▶ 1:37:46Administrator to work with Stephanie to produce an accurate status and aging list of unissued decisions.
  • ▶ 1:39:30Chair will write to the select board recommending reappointment of Mike and Jenny.
  • ▶ 1:49:45Chair will serve until July 3; Bob Peas is the only chair candidate and no vice chair or clerk candidate was found.
  • ▶ 2:11:10Commission raised no objection to the informal Northfield Road concept of a single subdivision road; no vote taken.
  • ▶ 2:33:59The mower purchase question is tabled to the next meeting.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 2:15Chair opened general public comment; none was offered at that point.
  2. ▶ 49:59Asked how close Lot 3 of the Old Stone Farm Store project comes to Riley Road and requested readable copies of the drawings. — William ban, as heard, resident, trustee of Stone Farm Estates, 48 Riley Road
  3. ▶ 1:22:04Explained the as-built deck at 30 Johnson Street is longer than the plan, extended to add access to rear sliders. — Paula Valente, as heard, applicant, 30 Johnson Street

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:04Call to order, roll call and public commentinformational · 3:33 long · public comment
  2. ▶ 4:00Continuation requests (Lot 2 Crossroad, 255 Sunny Hill, 171 Arbor)voted · 4:49 long · planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 8:4941 Country Road fence RDAvoted, negative determination · 14:09 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 22:58Courtland Circle detention pond RDA, applicant absentcontinued later in meeting · 3:31 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 26:29Old Stone Farm Store duplex subdivision notice of intentvoted, continued to July 3 · 28:04 long · housing, planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 54:33PJ Keating pump house RDAvoted, continued to July 3 · 16:15 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 1:10:48390 Howard Street and Courtland Circle continuationsvoted · 3:16 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:14:04Administrative tree removal and certificates of compliancevoted · 5:52 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:19:5630 Johnson Street deck field changevoted · 8:17 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 1:28:13Violations updateinformational · 2:33 long · legal
  11. ▶ 1:30:46Decision backloginformational · 7:21 long · personnel
  12. ▶ 1:38:07Reappointments and officer nominationsno resolution · 12:01 long · personnel
  13. ▶ 1:50:08Informal discussion of 1083 Northfield Road five-lot conceptinformational · 22:45 long · housing, planning and zoning
  14. ▶ 2:12:53Beaver deceiver and Timber Rights Fund purchase ordersvoted · 4:15 long · grants, budget
  15. ▶ 2:17:08Grants update and Hollis Road mower and residencetabled to next meeting · 18:37 long · grants, facilities
  16. ▶ 2:35:45Closing comments and adjournmentvoted adjourn · 0:49 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Speaker names for the roll call responses of Bob and Mike were partly unclear.
  • Several roll call votes are captioned only as 'I', so individual counts are not itemised; the chair's 'approve' statements were taken as passage.
  • The 255 Prospect Street and Beaver Solutions mover and seconder were not clearly captioned.
  • The reappointment endorsement was said to lack a quorum; whether a formal vote was taken is unclear.
  • The Hollis Road mower donation brand and the 45 Row 12 address in the violations item are garbled.

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