What was said

Conservation Commission, July 17, 2024

the recording · 2:36 long, about 16,980 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:06:03The Commission continued the PJ Keating pump house decision to August after a straw poll favoured waiting for Natural Heritage conditions; the applicant agreed.
  2. ▶ 1:49:01The Commission approved the 255 Sunny Hill Road notice of intent with a special condition that the 6-inch drain location be updated on the plan before installation.
  3. ▶ 51:04The Commission approved the 791 Mass Ave notice of intent with standard conditions and approved five certificates of compliance.
  4. ▶ 18:04The Commission elected a vice chair and a clerk by roll call and tabled the chair seat; the acting chair will keep hosting meetings.
  5. ▶ 2:33:13The Commission approved spending up to a new total on a riding lawn mower for Hollis Road and the pollinator habitat, after the earlier purchase was specced as a tractor with no mowing deck.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Wetlands decisions such as the PJ Keating pump house and Sunny Hill Road drainage set conditions on work near water, and a delay means those conditions are not yet fixed.
  • The Commission has no chair and has lost a member, which bears on how reliably its hearings can be scheduled and voted.
  • The mower purchase and the Mass Trails grant match draw on conservation money and possibly ARPA funds, which residents may be asked to support at the Select Board.

Watch next

  • The Commission's August 7 meeting, where PJ Keating, Village at Flat Hills, 390 Howard Street and the 60 Crossroad lots were continued.
  • Whether the Select Board agrees to use ARPA funds for the Mass Trails grant match, which the Commission endorsed asking for.

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Present: Mary (acting chair (resigned as chair)); Jenny puer (member, elected vice chair); Rich bur (member); Jeff Viano (member); Mike Larouche (member, elected clerk); Chris St Germain (member, joined after roll call); Sophie (conservation agent). 1 of 7 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 13:42Jenny puer as vice chair — moved by Rich, as heardpassed by roll call; Jenny abstained
  2. ▶ 16:55Mike larouche as clerk — moved by Rich, as heardpassed unanimously by roll call; Mike abstained
  3. ▶ 20:40Continue 60 Crossroad lot 12a to August 7th — moved by Jenny, as heardpassed by roll call, all aye
  4. ▶ 22:03Continue 60 Crossroad lot 12b to August 7th — moved by Rich, as heardpassed by roll call, all aye
  5. ▶ 41:36Continue Village at Flat Hills detention pond RDA to August 7th — moved by Rich, as heardpassed by roll call, all aye
  6. ▶ 51:04Approve 791 Mass Ave notice of intent as submitted with standard order conditions — moved by Rich, as heardpassed by roll call; Jenny's vote not clear in captions
  7. ▶ 1:08:49Continue PJ Keating RDA to August 8th (as heard) — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed by roll call, all aye
  8. ▶ 1:11:15Continue 390 Howard Street abbreviated notice of resource area delineation to 8/7 — moved by Rich, as heardpassed by roll call, all aye
  9. ▶ 1:49:01Approve 255 Sunny Hill Road notice of intent with a special condition that the 6 inch drain location be updated on the plan before installationpassed by roll call; Jenny not eligible to vote
  10. ▶ 1:53:19Continue 171 Arbor Street to August 21st — moved by Rich, as heardpassed by roll call; Jenny not eligible
  11. ▶ 1:54:09Continue Crossroad Lot 2 parcel 99-111 hearing to August 7th — moved by Chris, as heardpassed by roll call, all aye
  12. ▶ 1:56:17Approve removal and replacement of diseased trees at 67 Peninsula Drivepassed by roll call, all aye
  13. ▶ 1:57:45Approve certificate of compliance, Sunset Lane — moved by Rich, as heardpassed by roll call, all aye
  14. ▶ 1:58:31Approve certificate of compliance, 245 Hommen Street lot 3 — moved by Rich, as heardpassed by roll call, all aye
  15. ▶ 1:59:12Approve certificate of compliance, 251 Hommen Street lot 4passed by roll call, all aye
  16. ▶ 1:59:53Approve certificate of compliance, 512 Northfield Road — moved by Rich, as heardpassed by roll call, all aye
  17. ▶ 2:00:36Approve certificate of compliance, 41 Country Road — moved by Mike, as heardpassed by roll call, all aye
  18. ▶ 2:10:02Approve certificate of compliance, 23 Cove Roadpassed by roll call, all aye
  19. ▶ 2:33:13Spend up to a new total for a riding lawn mower for Hollis Road and the pollinator habitat — moved by Jenny, as heardpassed by roll call, all aye

And 3 procedural: approve minutes of the first earlier meeting (dated july 21st 2023 as heard) (▶ 7:37); approve minutes of august 2nd 2023 (▶ 8:24); adjourn (▶ 2:35:43).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 21 agree, 6 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 1 substantive difference. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsPJ Keating RDA continuance date and vote▶ 1:08:49

    recording Continue PJ Keating RDA to August 8th (as heard) — passed by roll call, all aye

    town’s minutes “to continue 495 leominster-shirley road to 8/ 7 /24.”

    The official minutes have no PJ Keating vote. The closest match is 495 Leominster-Shirley Road continued to 8/7/24, and they name Ken Dow as PJ Keating's representative. Check the recording at this point for the date (8th or 7th) and whether this is the same item.

6 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Certificate of compliance, Sunset Lane:Approve certificate of compliance, Sunset Lane — passed by roll call, all aye→4 Sunset Lane▶ 1:57:45
  • Certificate of compliance, 245 Hommen Street Lot 3:Approve certificate of compliance, 245 Hommen Street lot 3 — passed by roll call, all aye→245 Holman St. Lot 3▶ 1:58:31
  • Certificate of compliance, 251 Hommen Street Lot 4:Approve certificate of compliance, 251 Hommen Street lot 4 — passed by roll call, all aye→251 Holman St. Lot 4▶ 1:59:12
  • Attendee Jenny:Jenny puer (member, elected vice chair)→Jennifer Pewtherer
  • Attendee Rich:Rich bur (member)→Richard Bursch
  • Attendee Jeff:Jeff Viano (member)→Jeff Viviano
In one record only: 3 from the recording, 5 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Mass Trails grant match 20%: Mass Trails grant match: 20% ▶ 2:26:06
  • Recording only — Wetland fill replication figures at Sunny Hill Road: Wetland fill replication at Sunny Hill Road: 1700, 1,400 Square fet, 1792 Square F feet, 3500 ▶ 1:22:03
  • Recording only — PJ Keating straw poll to wait for Natural Heritage conditions: After a straw poll the commission preferred to wait on PJ Keating until Natural Heritage conditions arrive; applicant agreed to continue. ▶ 1:06:03
  • Town’s minutes only — Hawes Fund $1,300 toward the mower: “he proposes an additional $1,300 from the hawes fund to purchase a”
  • Town’s minutes only — Hearings not heard for advertising standards: “were not heard as they have not met the advertising time-frame standards.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Greg Roy to update drawing for 495 Leominster-Shirley Road: “she asked greg to update the drawing to show where materials will”
  • Town’s minutes only — Other action items: 10 Mass Ave erosion control, 40 Fire Road, DEP site visit, mower purchase through Facilities: “mary asked sophie to check on the erosion control which was failing.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Applicants, engineers and public present: “brian marchetti (mccarty engineering) and mary ann dipinto (3 oaks environmental).”

Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 2:27:10Hollis Road riding lawn mower

    Mike asked for an additional amount from the Haw fund after the earlier purchase was specced as a tractor with no mowing deck. Total would be not to exceed the stated amount, bought via Home Depot through the facilities department so no tax.

    as heard:$1,000$1,300$2,30042 inch

  2. ▶ 2:26:06Mass Trails grant match

    Grant sponsor must cover a share of cost; the commission endorsed asking the select board to use ARPA funds for the match.

    as heard:20%

  3. ▶ 1:22:03Wetland fill replication at Sunny Hill Road

    Applicant said fill area rose slightly after peer review changes, with replication at two to one.

    as heard:17001,400 Square fet1792 Square F feet3500

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 18:04Chair seat tabled; Mary will keep hosting meetings for now.
  • ▶ 40:34Village at Flat Hills to supply the O&M plan, a letter confirming sludge removal and no wetland work, and an updated plan with limit of work.
  • ▶ 1:06:03After a straw poll the commission preferred to wait on PJ Keating until Natural Heritage conditions arrive; applicant agreed to continue.
  • ▶ 1:50:29Sunny Hill Road approval carries a special condition on the 6-inch drain location; applicant agreed to a maintenance easement in the deed.
  • ▶ 2:11:0710 Mass Ave enforcement: no filing received; next step is a violation notice.
  • ▶ 2:20:4520 Kilburn Chapter 61B: previously decided not to pursue; select board notified.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 7:16Acting chair asked for public comment at the start; no hands were raised.
  2. ▶ 2:21:29Mr Gibbons said he waited hours on the 20 Kilburn Chapter 61B item without knowing it had been voted on the week before. — a speaker, resident
  3. ▶ 2:34:38Jay Simeon asked about the status of a property (45 or 52), and said his question was answered.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:05Opening, roll call, chair resignation, Bob Peas tributeinformational · 5:46 long
  2. ▶ 5:51Public comment and prior minutesvoted · 2:54 long · public comment
  3. ▶ 8:45Commission reorganization: vice chair and clerk elected, chair tabledvoted; chair tabled · 9:39 long · personnel
  4. ▶ 18:24Hearings not advertised in time and continuances (60 Crossroad)voted · 4:00 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 22:47Village at Flat Hills detention pond maintenance RDAcontinued to August 7th · 19:10 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 41:57Gendron Crossroad Lot 2 hearing, applicant absentleft open, later continued · 1:52 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 43:49791 Mass Ave subdivision notice of intentapproved · 8:18 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 52:07PJ Keating pump house RDA and Natural Heritage reviewcontinued · 17:22 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:09:29390 Howard Street delineationcontinued · 2:07 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 1:11:36255 Sunny Hill Road notice of intent, wetland flags and drainageapproved with special condition · 39:17 long · planning and zoning
  11. ▶ 1:50:53171 Arbor Street notice of intent and Crossroad Lot 2continued · 4:01 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 1:54:54Administrative determinations and certificates of compliance incl. 23 Cove Roadvoted · 15:50 long · planning and zoning
  13. ▶ 2:10:44Enforcement updates (10 Mass Ave, 40 Fire Road 12, 205 Sunset Lane)informational · 7:35 long · legal
  14. ▶ 2:18:19Meeting schedule, 20 Kilburn 61B, Mass Trails grantinformational · 8:10 long · grants, public comment
  15. ▶ 2:26:48Hollis Road riding mower fundingvoted · 7:07 long · recreation, facilities
  16. ▶ 2:33:55Final comments, open seat, adjournmentadjourned · 2:32 long · public comment

What the captions could not carry

  • Whether Jenny voted on the 791 Mass Ave approval roll call.
  • The identity of the property Jay Simeon asked about.
  • Exact dollar figures are unreliable in the captions.
  • Date of the continuance for PJ Keating heard as August 8th.
  • Some speaker names are mangled.

These are ours, and they are not the record

OUR MINUTES OF A RECORDING, written by a language model from machine captions. Two derived layers stand between this file and the meeting. Cite the video at the timestamp, never this file. Figures are as heard and may be wrong; names may be wrong; where the town published minutes, those are the record.

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