What was said

Conservation Commission, August 7, 2024

the recording · 1:39 long, about 9,943 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:00:34The commission voted 3-1 to allow removal of both dead trees at 54 Pine Acres, a decision made in an administrative determination.
  2. ▶ 33:54It approved three notices of intent for new construction on Cross Road lots, including a duplex, a single-family home and an addition with driveway.
  3. ▶ 17:19It approved a field change at 899 Flat Hill Road as presented, 4-0.
  4. ▶ 38:35Four hearings were continued to August 21 or September 4, one because an applicant's engineer's paperwork was not submitted.
  5. ▶ 1:20:16It accepted the Timber Rights and Hawes fund budgets as proposed, adopted next year's meeting dates, and chose a chair again.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Approvals on Cross Road and Flat Hill Road, and the continued hearings, decide what gets built near wetlands in town, and abutters can raise concerns at the continued hearings.
  • The two fund budgets set how conservation money is spent on professional services and supplies, including engineering fees tied to the Mass Trails grant.

Watch next

  • Continued hearings on August 21 (Courtland Circle, PJ Keating pump house, Arbor Street) and September 4 (390 Howard Street).
  • Town counsel's follow-up letter on the 45 Road 12 violation, which the commission wants closed within about 30 days.

budgetexecutive sessiongrantshousingpersonnelplanning and zoningpublic comment

Present: Chair (unnamed in captions) (chair); Jenny Pewtherer (member); Mike Larouche (member); Chris St Germaine (member); Jeff vivano (member); Sophia / Sophie (conservation administrator); Jack Maloney (Dillis and Roy) (presenter); Ryan Proctor (Dillis and Roy) (presenter); Wayne garie (presenter). 2 of 9 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 9:14Appoint Bob as the commission's representative working with Julie at the town and the engineering firm on the Mass Trails grant — moved by Mike, as heardpassed 4-0
  2. ▶ 17:19Approve field change for 899 Flat Hill Road as presented — moved by Chris, as heardpassed 4-0
  3. ▶ 27:30Approve notice of intent, duplex at Crossroad lot two, with standard order conditions — moved by Chris, as heardpassed 4-0
  4. ▶ 33:54Approve notice of intent for new single family home at 60 Cross Road lot 12apassed 5-0
  5. ▶ 37:47Approve notice of intent for addition and driveway at 60 Crossroad lot 12b — moved by Chris, as heardpassed 5-0
  6. ▶ 39:20Continue zero Courtland Circle hearing to August 21 — moved by Mike, as heardpassed 3-0
  7. ▶ 43:25Continue PJ Keating pump house hearing to August 21passed 5-0
  8. ▶ 45:01Continue 390 Howard Street hearing to September 4passed 4-0
  9. ▶ 46:25Continue 171 Arbor Street hearing to August 21 — moved by Mike, as heardpassed 4-0
  10. ▶ 1:00:34Allow removal of both trees at 54 Pine Acres — moved by Jeff, as heardpassed 3-1 (Chris, Jeff, Jenny yes; Mike no)
  11. ▶ 1:03:05Approve certificate of compliance for 38 Oak Roadpassed 5-0
  12. ▶ 1:20:16Accept Timber Rights fund budget as proposedpassed 5-0
  13. ▶ 1:24:32Accept Hawes fund budget as proposed — moved by Mike, as heardpassed 5-0
  14. ▶ 1:30:01Adopt proposed commission meeting dates — moved by Mike, as heardpassed 5-0
  15. ▶ 1:31:25Select the current chair as chair againpassed 4-0 on the roll call captioned

And 3 procedural: approve minutes of july 10, 2024 (▶ 6:01); approve minutes of july 17, 2024 (▶ 6:27); adjourn (▶ 1:38:56).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 16 agree, 9 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 4 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differs54 Pine Acres tree removal vote count▶ 1:00:34

    recording Allow removal of both trees at 54 Pine Acres — passed 3-1 (Chris, Jeff, Jenny yes; Mike no)

    town’s minutes “to take both trees down.”

    Ours counts four voters (3-1), the town's minutes record 4-1 (five voters); check the recording at this timestamp and the town's roll call for who voted, including the chair.

  2. differs390 Howard Street continuation date▶ 45:01

    recording Continue 390 Howard Street hearing to September 4 — passed 4-0

    town’s minutes “to continue 390 howard street”

    The town's motion prints 8/7/24 (the meeting date itself) while its discussion records a request for 9/4/24; ours says September 4. Check the recording and the posted agenda for the actual continuation date.

  3. differs171 Arbor Street continuation date▶ 46:25

    recording Continue 171 Arbor Street hearing to August 21 — passed 4-0

    town’s minutes “to continue 171 arbor street”

    The town's motion prints 8/7/24 while its discussion records 8/21/24; ours says August 21. Check the recording and later agendas to confirm the date.

  4. differsFire Road violation item (45 Road 12 vs 40 Fire Road)▶ 1:08:31

    recording The administrator will ask town counsel to send another letter on the 45 Road 12 violation, with the commission wanting it closed within about 30 days and not wanting to fine.

    town’s minutes “next step is to contact the town attorney to send a letter”

    Likely the same item (letter via town counsel/attorney) but the address differs and the town's version adds an owner NOI resubmission for loam and seed with no 30-day or no-fine language; check the recording for the address and the stated terms.

9 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Certificate of compliance address:Approve certificate of compliance for 38 Oak Road — passed 5-0→38 Oak Ridge Road▶ 1:03:05
  • Timber Rights fund figures:17,5 48 and 32, 14,000, 3,548 32→$17,548.32, $14K, $3,548.32▶ 1:18:49
  • Hawes fund balance and split:36484, 30,000, 6,484→$36,484, $30K, $6,484▶ 1:20:57
  • Unheard Mass Ave hearing address:The 11:47 Mass hearing was not heard because of inadequate abutter notification and legal ad placement.→1147 Mass Ave▶ 17:59
  • Chair identity:Chair (unnamed in captions) (chair)→Mary Wilson
  • Commissioner Chris St Germain:Chris St Germaine (member)→Chris St. Germain
  • Commissioner Jeff Viviano:Jeff vivano (member)→Jeffrey Viviano
  • Conservation administrator:Sophia / Sophie (conservation administrator)→Sophie Dorow
  • Presenter Wayne Gariepy:Wayne garie (presenter)→Wayne Gariepy
In one record only: 4 from the recording, 7 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — $3,000 figure in Hawes discussion: $3,000 ▶ 1:20:57
  • Recording only — Reason for Courtland Circle continuance: Zero Courtland Circle hearing continued to August 21 because the applicant's engineer's paperwork was not submitted. ▶ 38:35
  • Recording only — January meetings shifted to 8th and 22nd: January meetings shifted to the 8th and 22nd. ▶ 1:27:32
  • Recording only — Inspect 390 Howard Street for erosion: The administrator was encouraged to inspect 390 Howard Street for erosion and runoff and keep a paper trail. ▶ 1:12:20
  • Town’s minutes only — 123 Hollis Road rent decision: “mary will wait for until a new town manager comes in but will also reach out”
  • Town’s minutes only — Town accountant requirement to vote on budgets: “eze quiel (town accountant) said that the commission needs to vote to approve a budget”
  • Town’s minutes only — Mass Trails grant procurement: three quotes not needed: “they will not need 3 quotes for the proposed service”
  • Town’s minutes only — Absent commissioner Richard Bursch: “absent: rich b call to order at 7pm by mary w.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Chris Anderson of Hannigan Engineering: “chris anderson (hannigan engineering)”
  • Town’s minutes only — Minutes clerk Jane Ranley: “respectfully submitted, jane ranley”
  • Town’s minutes only — Bob Pease absent: “mary stated that bob pease could not attend”

Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 7:08Mass Trails grant

    The grant administrator said the three-quote requirement applies only to nonprofits, so town procurement processes govern. The commission authorised a representative to work on the engineering warrant.

  2. ▶ 1:18:49Timber Rights fund budget

    A budget must be voted before accounting will allocate the funds. The proposal split the balance between professional services and supplies, partly to cover grant matching engineering fees.

    as heard:17,5 48 and 3214,0003,548 32

  3. ▶ 1:20:57Hawes fund budget

    The balance was split between professional services (contracting) and supplies. Part of the supplies money was already spent on a lawnmower.

    as heard:3648430,0006,4842500$2,300$3,000

  4. ▶ 1:35:43Rent at the Hollis Road residence

    Raising rent to market rate was discussed but remains unresolved. The question of whether the trust terms allow it awaits a replacement town manager and advice from town counsel.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 38:35Zero Courtland Circle hearing continued to August 21 because the applicant's engineer's paperwork was not submitted.
  • ▶ 17:59The 11:47 Mass hearing was not heard because of inadequate abutter notification and legal ad placement.
  • ▶ 1:08:31The administrator will ask town counsel to send another letter on the 45 Road 12 violation, with the commission wanting it closed within about 30 days and not wanting to fine.
  • ▶ 1:16:29For the 37 Fire Road emergency tree work, the owner is to file a retroactive administrative determination.
  • ▶ 1:27:32January meetings shifted to the 8th and 22nd. The administrator was asked to add normal-cadence July and August dates for next year.
  • ▶ 1:12:20The administrator was encouraged to inspect 390 Howard Street for erosion and runoff and keep a paper trail.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 5:40Chair called for public comment; no hands were raised.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:06Opening, recording setup, roll call, announcementsinformational · 5:34 long
  2. ▶ 5:40Public commentno speakers · 0:00 long · public comment
  3. ▶ 5:40Approval of prior minutesvoted · 1:07 long
  4. ▶ 6:47Mass Trails grant representativevoted · 3:09 long · grants, recreation
  5. ▶ 9:56899 Flat Hill Road field changevoted · 8:03 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 17:5911:47 Mass hearing not heard due to notice defectsnot heard · 0:21 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 18:20Village at Flat Hills detention pond RDA; paperwork missingcontinued · 5:28 long · planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 23:28Gendron notices of intent: Crossroad duplex, lot 12a, lot 12bvoted · 14:45 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 38:13Courtland Circle continuedvoted · 2:09 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 40:22PJ Keating pump house RDAcontinued · 3:47 long · planning and zoning, water sewer
  11. ▶ 44:09390 Howard Street and 171 Arbor Street continuancesvoted · 2:37 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 46:4654 Pine Acres administrative determination, dead treesvoted · 14:51 long · planning and zoning
  13. ▶ 1:01:3738 Oak Road certificate of compliancevoted · 1:49 long · planning and zoning
  14. ▶ 1:03:26Violations and enforcement: 45 Road 12, 390 Howard Street, 205 Sunset Lane updatedirected · 11:41 long · planning and zoning, legal
  15. ▶ 1:15:07Emergency certification, 37 Fire Roaddirected · 2:19 long · planning and zoning
  16. ▶ 1:17:26Timber Rights and Hawes fund budgetsvoted · 7:29 long · budget, transfers
  17. ▶ 1:24:55Meeting datesvoted · 5:27 long · policy
  18. ▶ 1:30:22Chair selectionvoted · 2:29 long · personnel
  19. ▶ 1:32:51Updates: encroachment, Hollis Road residences, rent, open space, stormwaterinformational · 5:24 long · housing
  20. ▶ 1:38:15Thanks and adjournmentvoted · 1:23 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Several roll-call tallies were assembled from captions and some voters' responses were not distinct
  • Who seconded some motions was unclear
  • Chair's name not captioned
  • Some counts for Chris's initial departure during the Mass Trails item are unclear
  • Address and parcel numbers for some hearings were garbled

These are ours, and they are not the record

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